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Ed Schultz: Obama Took "Republicans To The Cleaners" In Fiscal Cliff Deal (video)
RealClearPolitics ^ | December 31, 2012 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on 12/31/2012 8:52:07 PM PST by i88schwartz

ED SCHULTZ, MSNBC: "If I could just put it this way: the White House is taking the Republicans to the cleaners in negotiation on this. This is a huge win for the White House, if they can get the votes on this. And that's why Schumer is coming out, saying that there's going to be strong Democratic support here. This is a big win for the Democrats, no question about it. A big win for America. This underscores the vote on November 6th, there's no question about it."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; barackobama; edschultz; fiscalcliff
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1 posted on 12/31/2012 8:52:18 PM PST by i88schwartz
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To: i88schwartz

he didn’t take the GOP leaders anywhere they didn’t already want to go


2 posted on 12/31/2012 8:53:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: i88schwartz
These guys may want to save their gloating until after the voting has taken place.
3 posted on 12/31/2012 8:53:48 PM PST by Cu Roi
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To: i88schwartz

Republicans = The Washington Generals.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 8:55:47 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: i88schwartz

Thanks for the timely reminder that the Republicans should go over Obama’s Spending Cliff.


5 posted on 12/31/2012 8:57:10 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Communal Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: i88schwartz

Washington is a cesspool


6 posted on 12/31/2012 8:58:26 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: GeronL

So true.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 9:00:33 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: i88schwartz; Libloather; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ...

I saw that.

Ed Schultz on Dem channel says its a big victory for O and Dems should go for it.
Sharpton loves it too.
But R Trumka AFL-CIO says he is against it because it gives away too much to Rs.

What sucks is that Obama with lots of Rs help made this whole fight sound like it was about ‘tax cuts for the rich’, and that it is all Rs care about, that ‘the rich’ get more tax cuts.

So what Obama got is a bunch of spending extensions, what did the Rs get for that Dem spending? Extended tax cut rates from the first $250K of income that O demanded to $400K of income.

You know what would have put Obama and Dems whole game plan into a confused tizzy? For Rs to Offer to extend tax cut rates to ONLY first $100K of income in return for no extension of unemployment comp or tax credits for those who pay no taxes. No extensions of spending.
How would he explain that to his Dem base ??

Obama tagged Rs as only caring for the rich. Well Rs could have stood for deficit reduction instead of that, and let O own the economic results. But they never cared about deficits.

There is still the debt limit fight. So its not over yet


8 posted on 12/31/2012 9:00:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: Graewoulf
Thanks for the timely reminder that the Republicans should go over Obama’s Spending Cliff.

It's the ONLY way to get serious spending cuts and a few lower income democrats into the taxpayer lane. If we DON'T go over, all this country gets is more tax slavery. The cliff is the only answer unless we want to carry the entire, massive and growing by the minute burden by ourselves while the left wing freeloaders carry on with their sloth.

9 posted on 12/31/2012 9:02:05 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: i88schwartz

The House should embrace the fact the Senate has reached a deal, and say, “we will consider it, amend it, and go to conference.”


10 posted on 12/31/2012 9:02:11 PM PST by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my weapons.)
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To: sickoflibs

Too bad they’re not interested in what’s good for the country. Just winning at all costs.


11 posted on 12/31/2012 9:02:46 PM PST by Inkie
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To: i88schwartz
Obama Took "Republicans To The Cleaners"

The one thing for sure is that, Obama has been taking the country down a s-h-i-t-hole. The "fiscal" cliff deal isn't going to change anything. In fact, if one wants to consider anything that will result from the deal, it's that, the country is being taken towards the much bigger cliff that is for certain coming our way. No deal will be able to avert us going over that cliff.
12 posted on 12/31/2012 9:03:08 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: i88schwartz

Huge win for Obama = Obama now owns this economy.


13 posted on 12/31/2012 9:03:18 PM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: dfwgator
Republicans = The Washington Generals.

lol

14 posted on 12/31/2012 9:04:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: i88schwartz
Progressive Wallahs issue fat wad to ridicule Republicans.


15 posted on 12/31/2012 9:05:53 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: i88schwartz

“A big win for America.”

So Ed thinks taking on $20 trillion in debt is a win for America? The idiot does not deal in reality.


16 posted on 12/31/2012 9:08:05 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: i88schwartz

Wow, I actually agree with this prick....


17 posted on 12/31/2012 9:08:12 PM PST by martinidon
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To: weston
Huge win for Obama = Obama now owns this economy.

Obama's retiring after this gig's over... we're the ones left holding the bag.

18 posted on 12/31/2012 9:08:37 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: i88schwartz

Ed Schultz is a slut.


19 posted on 12/31/2012 9:09:43 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: Parley Baer

liberals think that massive debt spending is good for America for some reason


20 posted on 12/31/2012 9:12:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement

just like everyone else on TV?


21 posted on 12/31/2012 9:13:40 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: sickoflibs
"There is still the debt limit fight. So its not over yet"

No...there's no one to "fight" with the 1-Party system in Washington today....

Americans who are parasites on others for their very existence were the bulk of those voting (D), Straight-Ticket, to keep the handouts flowing....

They've run up debts that can NEVER be paid, on the backs of Consumers/Taxpayers, and only all the guns and ammo being sold in the past 5 years+ are gonna change things when the welfare checks and handouts stop flowing.

22 posted on 12/31/2012 9:17:17 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: GeronL
Ed Schultz: Obama Took "Republicans To The Cleaners" The American People to the cleaners In Fiscal Cliff Deal
23 posted on 12/31/2012 9:18:04 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Inkie
RE :”Too bad they’re not interested in what’s good for the country. Just winning at all costs”

Well lucky for us *our side* doesn’t care about winning, *we* don’t care about actually beating O. *we* are very happy losing and whining about it.

*we* only care about symbolic votes like the 33 House votes repealing O care, or all the symbolic House votes we will see against this tax cut extension. Voting 'no' on so much stuff that passes into law is just so rewarding.

24 posted on 12/31/2012 9:20:24 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: i88schwartz

America.

25 posted on 12/31/2012 9:21:04 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: sickoflibs
There is still the debt limit fight. So its not over yet

Seriously? Don't we know that the Republicans will cave once again?

26 posted on 12/31/2012 9:23:38 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: GeronL
liberals think that massive debt spending is good for America for some reason

The sooner they bankrupt the free enterprise country, the sooner they can start building the socialist utopia.

27 posted on 12/31/2012 9:23:51 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: i88schwartz

Does this puffy-faced scumbag Shultz not realize that the “deal” hasn’t passed yet?
His gloating is certain to help get it passed, lol.


28 posted on 12/31/2012 9:26:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sickoflibs
There is still the debt limit fight. So its not over yet

The fight may not be over but it's over for the GOP and likely over for this great nation of ours.

29 posted on 12/31/2012 9:29:57 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Imagine John Boehner in a game of Chess. Geez!


30 posted on 12/31/2012 9:31:23 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: i88schwartz

You seriously posting this crap? This buffoon and a lefty tool on MSNBC spinning for the Left is news now on FR?

Sure, we don’t like this deal and want this deal. What better deal can we get with this Senate and POTUS? Please educate me on the parameters of the deal and how it would pass both houses and be signed into law.

Don’t blather please.


31 posted on 12/31/2012 9:33:05 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: i88schwartz

Someone should remind Special Ed about the $1 trillion in Obamacare taxes that kick in .... tomorrow. Big time hangover, rats!


32 posted on 12/31/2012 9:33:32 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: tsowellfan

Sir/Madam,

What game would you have played and what result would you have gotten? Please educate me.

Sincerely,
IR


33 posted on 12/31/2012 9:34:36 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: oldbrowser

building it with slave labor because there won’t be any money left


34 posted on 12/31/2012 9:35:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: indianrightwinger
What game would you have played and what result would you have gotten?

I'm not an elected official. Not my job. I'm just a voter and I did not vote for increased taxes with NO cuts.

Boehner managed to get himself and the party between a rock and a hard place. I see a SUPER majority coming in 2014.

35 posted on 12/31/2012 9:39:18 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; tsowellfan; Inkie
RE :”There is still the debt limit fight. So its not over yet
.....
Seriously? Don't we know that the Republicans will cave once again?

I use that word ‘cave’ a lot too.
But do Republicans even know what they stand for?
To just oppose O on everything and then lose each fight by choosing fantasy instead of reality.

O wins because he commands public opinion something R side ignores.

Rs lose because they don't unite against Dems and they would rather live in a fantasy world then reality.
‘ All the polls showing Romney is losing are rigged’
‘Killing plan B is killing a tax increase’

This is delusion.

Yes, defining 'extending tax cuts' as 'tax increases' is a sure way of ending up losing.

36 posted on 12/31/2012 9:42:54 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: i88schwartz

One can only hope that there aren’t enough votes in the House to pass this piece of garbage legislation. No spending cuts? A tax increase? A cap gains tax increase? Kicking tough choices down the curb. What an fn joke.


37 posted on 12/31/2012 9:44:10 PM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: tsowellfan

Yes. Voters get one vote. Congressional leaders get to govern. This is the “best” outcome for now. Keep voting and keep fighting. Better policy outcomes will come by us staying involved and fighting. Not by continuously beating up our side.


38 posted on 12/31/2012 9:47:40 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: sickoflibs
‘ All the polls showing Romney is losing are rigged’

Are you denying that? Be careful or they'll call you a "troll". Oh, I forgot, that group has dissapeared since election night.

Actually they have not dissapeared. They're now circling the wagons around John Boehner trying to convince us that Boehner's got the democrats and Obama over a barrel now.

39 posted on 12/31/2012 9:51:02 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: NYRepublican72
No spending cuts? A tax increase? A cap gains tax increase? Kicking tough choices down the curb.

That's exactly what they're doing.

40 posted on 12/31/2012 9:54:20 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: indianrightwinger
Not by continuously beating up our side.

I'm not a republican. I'm a registered Conservative.

41 posted on 12/31/2012 9:56:45 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Cu Roi
These guys may want to save their gloating until after the voting has taken place.

Remember that Obama saw it as being in his own, and in the Dems, political self-interest to go over the cliff.

I'd guess that the taunting by Ed and others is actually designed to harden GOP opposition to the "deal". Particularly in the House where I think Dems believe they smell blood in the water and can take down Boehner, leave the GOP conference in disarray and bring about a Dem Speakership in 2015. Classic divide and conquer tactic.

What it really goes to show is that there's no way that the Republicans can "win" in the MSM. Either they're jerks for inflicting the cliff on middle America or they're wimps for caving into Obama's demands.

We need a new Speaker and a new GOP leadership. One that's not only willing to stand up to the bullying/Alinskyite tactics of the President and Dems but also capable of effectively putting together and espousing a CONSERVATIVE counter-plan.

If anyone knows where we can find one with BOTH those qualities, please let us know. In the meantime, I don't see any way that the GOP House majority survives this ...
42 posted on 12/31/2012 10:06:02 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: tsowellfan

Happy New Year. Enjoy!

We all need a political vehicle. ;)


43 posted on 12/31/2012 10:10:55 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: tsowellfan; St_Thomas_Aquinas; Inkie; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
RE :”They’re now circling the wagons around John Boehner trying to convince us that Boehner’s got the democrats and Obama over a barrel now.”

If you see anyone posting that PLEASE ping me to it.

After being a lone voice here in 2009 to 2010 warning to get rid of Bohner I kind of feel sorry for him now.

The Republicans in the House, not even the most uber-uber conservative Tea partiers will challenge him to be Speaker themselves, because they no way want his job to be Speaker which is to be the Scape-goat for all the O wins, while they themselves instead get to hide in the back protecting themselves by voting their meaningless symbol ‘nos’, like all those symbolic repeals of O care.

Its pathetic, how about beating O for a change?

44 posted on 12/31/2012 10:17:59 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: sickoflibs
The Republicans in the House, not even the most uber-uber conservative Tea partiers will challenge him to be Speaker themselves

You mean the ones that Boehner's been purging?

45 posted on 12/31/2012 10:30:17 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: sickoflibs; mike_9958

< snip: “He is Speaker of the House and is a direct line to become President. In that position, he represents everybody in this country.”

Yes he does - but I get to vote for him you do not, and I can tell you we are all very proud of John. John is a true patriot and servant.

I’d put John up against Newt, & Denny, any day as far as being a great speaker. You all can try to judge that John isn’t doing a good job but what are comparing him too ? Everyone listens to blogs and media and assumes they understand the entire picture.... I would seriously doubt it.

Because he isn’t doing what you want you would prefer to knock him down rather than try to support, particularly when you know he is an honest joe.

These blogs are great for folks to criticize from their couches. < end snip

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2924364/posts?page=78#78


46 posted on 12/31/2012 10:33:41 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: indianrightwinger

Posting an article like this....where a liberal gets something correct once in a blue moon....is nothing compared to the attacks on the conservative WND posted on another thread about 12 hrs ago. I find the attacks on a conservative news website way more disturbing.

Obama is playing the RINOCons for fools.


47 posted on 12/31/2012 10:40:09 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: GeronL

“he didn’t take the GOP leaders anywhere they didn’t already want to go”


Good point. That reminds me of a pre-election 2012 article:

Seventy Seven Articles of Impeachment against Obama

http://conservativepapers.com/news/2012/04/04/a-case-for-impeaching-obama/#.UOKDdawVd5Q


48 posted on 12/31/2012 10:41:33 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan
RE :” The Republicans in the House, not even the most uber-uber conservative Tea partiers will challenge him to be Speaker themselves
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You mean the ones that Boehner’s been purging?”

Exactly, no way do any of them want that job themselves. That would be no fun at all.

You should challenge them to oppose him as Speaker by running for it , this losing and then scape-goating whining stuff is long past old.

49 posted on 12/31/2012 10:46:45 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: tsowellfan; mike_9958
RE :”< snip: “He is Speaker of the House and is a direct line to become President. In that position, he represents everybody in this country.”
.......
Yes he does - but I get to vote for him you do not, and I can tell you we are all very proud of John. John is a true patriot and servant.”

See : #49

50 posted on 12/31/2012 10:51:38 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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