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House won't vote on any deal until after cliff deadline
CNN Political Ticker ^ | December 31st, 2012 02:17 PM ET

Posted on 12/31/2012 9:58:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 12/31/2012 10:24:08 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Washington (CNN) House GOP sources told CNN the House is increasingly unlikely to vote on any fiscal cliff package until New Year's Day, after the midnight deadline and after tax rates have technically already gone up.

The reason is partly about process, but the benefit is political.


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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; congress; fiscalcliff
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To: SeekAndFind

Well if they are going over the cliff anyway then the house should take their time, muck up the works and not even vote until it is amended and includes spending cuts. Without spending cuts this is just a meaningless load of crap.


21 posted on 12/31/2012 10:34:16 PM PST by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

This is being done on a holiday whether its in the daylight or the middle of the night.

Here in PA our state legislature and the leaders of both parties used the July 4th holiday weekend back in 2005 to vote themselves, judges and other government officials pay raises of 16 percent.

The back room business as usual politicians will get the votes together to pass the dirty deal and give members who feel threatened by the Tea Party grassroots patriots the ability to vote NO.

The NO votes on this need more pressure than the YES ones because they must put conservative words and talk into conservative action.

The majority of the GOP that will likely oppose this deal must be a majority to replace liberal GOP leaders or form their own conservative caucus.

If they can’t or won’t, they are phony and blowing smoke to us folks back home.


22 posted on 12/31/2012 10:34:45 PM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: 11th_VA
I'm optimistic this will be amended by the House,

What is the source of your optimism? THIS House will cave in. Boner has to have this finished before the new congress is sworn in. Why? Fewer republicans and more new conservatives who will not vote for this crap. There is no time to amend and revote. Whatever the Senate passes Boner will twist arms to get passed.

23 posted on 12/31/2012 10:35:28 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: SeekAndFind

Just heard from Brown’s office that they are voting at 1:40.


24 posted on 12/31/2012 10:49:09 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Founding Father

The House will pass it. There are good things in it as it stands. Obama caved to the 400/450k limit. AMT is gone permenantly. The cuts come later and they will.


25 posted on 12/31/2012 10:55:44 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Founding Father

The House will pass it. There are good things in it as it stands, such as it is. Obama caved to the 400/450k limit. Give him that much. AMT is gone permanently. The cuts come later and they will.


26 posted on 12/31/2012 10:57:54 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander
The cuts come later and they will.

You must be Boner in disguise. Name ONE SINGLE TIME the cuts (real cuts) came later. I have ocean front property in Kansas I bet I can sell you.

27 posted on 12/31/2012 11:04:40 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Founding Father

Not holding my breath but this part had to be done.


28 posted on 12/31/2012 11:06:08 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander
"The cuts come later and they will."

ROTFLMAO, I am still waiting for the cuts from the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 you ignoramus.
29 posted on 12/31/2012 11:06:54 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Call me all the names you want. The fact remains that this part needed to be passed and we are not going to get everything we want right now in this bill.


30 posted on 12/31/2012 11:09:11 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

Rhinelander - I agree, its a good start. If the House throws in a few more things the public really likes this could be a good start. I would ask for ending ‘child tax credits for illegals’ and pay raises for Gov’t employees. It would be hard for the RATs to turn down those two items in the face of public opinion.


31 posted on 12/31/2012 11:14:22 PM PST by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my weapons.)
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To: 11th_VA

Oh certainly. Hell I’d call for dissolving SSI and SSDI. Preserve SS for what it was meant for, turn Medicrap all back to the states.


32 posted on 12/31/2012 11:17:51 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

There’s still going to be a 20 trillion dollar plus debt by the end of this decade.

Spare me the drama about “cuts.”

We’ve all learned by now that Washington’s “cuts” aren’t really “cuts.”

If they were real cuts, we would have a balanced budget by now in this country.

But notice we don’t and won’t with the GOP business as usual crowd in charge.

My own senator Pat Toomey proposed a balanced budget ten years down the road and Paul Ryan’s much ballyhooed ideas put the balanced budget ten years plus down the road.....


33 posted on 12/31/2012 11:29:08 PM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nextrush

Yeah, it’s all reductions in the amount of increase. Sickening reality. Not only do ‘entitlements’ need to be really cut but entire departments need to be cut.


34 posted on 12/31/2012 11:34:53 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

‘Tis not a name but a fact that has been ignored for decades. Enjoy your pragmatic waltzes and rule of men.


35 posted on 12/31/2012 11:36:43 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: garbanzo; Wisconsinlady

Mitchy called Biden so he could ride in on a white horse, you couldn’t see the white horse because his teeth were so white everyone was blinded. Way to go, Mitchie! God knows I despise these people.

Wisconsinlady, I’ve decided not to bother God with prayers about these crooks in government. Apparently He doesn’t care one way or the other. So I’ll use my prayers to ask that His will be done and that I be able to accept whatever His will is.


36 posted on 01/01/2013 12:19:52 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'm here for the entertainment.. And I know there are people I don't like who read my posts.)
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To: SueRae
GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate’s delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.

Heard Krauthiemer(sp?) say the same thing this evening. Nearly tossed my supper. Just another reason why I find ALL politicians such loathsome bastards.

37 posted on 01/01/2013 1:26:07 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: TheRhinelander
The cuts come later and they will.

What color is the sky in your world?

38 posted on 01/01/2013 1:30:28 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Roccus

None the less, there’s some truth to it. I can’t believe how meny people here talk like the GOP has a choice between raising taxes or not. The truth is they cannot stop a tax increase. Maybe some folks finally get that the choice is between higher taxes for a small percentage of top earners or tax increases on everyone. Of course they agreed to the whole “fiscal cliff” deal in the first place because everyone thought we would have a pub president and congress. If we did it would have been brilliant. Oh well...


39 posted on 01/01/2013 2:30:17 AM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: SueRae
GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate’s delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.

Puh-leeze. Enough of the ‘optics’, we’ve seen enough already. I can’t believe someone would say that...must be RINO advisors...and we saw how well that turned out last election.

When the media owns the message and are in the tank for The Won, every little bit the Republicans can do to get their message through is helpful. I am amazed that we actually got to see and hear a member of Congress criticize the president's fiscal cliff "speech" yesterday.

40 posted on 01/01/2013 4:25:15 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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