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Louis Michael Seidman: Time to scrap the constitution
Conservatives4Palin ^ | December 31 2012 | Doug Brady

Posted on 12/31/2012 11:10:48 PM PST by Bratch

Edited on 01/01/2013 1:00:12 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I first thought this was going to be some kind of parody.† It isnít.† My first clue should have been that it was published in, you guessed it, the New York Times.

AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.


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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; marxist; seidman

1 posted on 12/31/2012 11:11:00 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Actually there is nothing wrong with the Constitution.
What we need to do is scrap Congress and the rest of
.gov along with the Lamestream media and syncophants like
Seidman. Wouldn’t hurt my feelings a bit if he was among
the first batch to dangle and swing.


2 posted on 12/31/2012 11:17:41 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: Bratch

Here’s an idea. Set them to work coming up with a new constitution. Not only will the resulting document have tremendous entertainment value, it will keep the little xxxxxxxx’s busy and not screwing up our country any more. They get a sense of accomplishment, we get a good laugh, then we burn theirs.


3 posted on 12/31/2012 11:19:29 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Bratch

“Time to scrap the constitution.”

No, time to kick some liberal ass. Don’t like the constitution? Then get the hell out of the country! You’re not welcome here anymore.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 11:22:13 PM PST by trailboss800
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To: Bratch
kept us from debating the merits of divisive issues and inflamed our public discourse.

In other words, we on the right don't agree with you.

Gotcha.

5 posted on 12/31/2012 11:31:21 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Bratch

Georgetown, eh? They are still (nominally) Jesuit, aren’t they . . . ?


6 posted on 12/31/2012 11:40:48 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Bratch

Everything they discussed openly in the NYT 20 years ago has come to pass. This is not a casual offhand remark, it is a plan. This will end in violence unless they give up the course they are on. They are actually determined to end the constitution. We are living in a slow-motion, home-grown communist revolution.
It’s reality, as clear as watching a car speeding towards a brick wall. I hope people like him are targeted at that time, and not just the poor cops sent out to do the bidding of idea men like him. It just seems more fair!


7 posted on 12/31/2012 11:49:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Bratch

This Seidman apparently wants to put the US on the fast track to totalitarianism. Why is an idiot like him allowed to teach constitutional law, anyway?


8 posted on 12/31/2012 11:52:06 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Eight years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: nvscanman

“a group of white...”

No need to read further.


9 posted on 12/31/2012 11:52:52 PM PST by Free Bee
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To: DesertRhino
Everything they discussed openly in the NYT 20 years ago has come to pass.

*Someone* on here (FR) has a vimeo link in his/her tagline. If you run across it, make sure you watch the video.

I really wish I knew who it was or I'd direct you to it.

10 posted on 12/31/2012 11:53:27 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Bratch

Since Louis Michael Seidman Doesn’t like the constitution he shouldn’t be allowed to speak freely


11 posted on 12/31/2012 11:57:12 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Brad's Gramma

http://vimeo.com/52009124

I’ve seen that one. Amazing video. Sure answers a lot of questions and is worth the time.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 12:01:02 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Aha! Thank you SO much!!

I didn’t watch the whole thing, how long does it run?


13 posted on 01/01/2013 12:01:57 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Bratch

Misc. comments.
Seidman is all over the place re the Constitution. He says to scrap it and rely on customs, etc. I think that is called “Common Law”.

Using England as an example of anything relevant to orderly rule is not very smart. The government can collapse on one vote, or when one party, faction, etc. gets pissed at someone and takes all their marbles and go home.

Also, the marxist labor movement in England, for too many decades, ran the Labor Party and the country, into the ground. They were also an unchallenged Fifth Column, operating in the leadership ranks of Labor on behalf of Moscow.

{I just opened myself up to criticism because AFL-CIO leader Richard Trumka is a hardcore red, and former thug leader of the United Mine Workers of America. However, even his iron rule met significant resistance from the non-marxist unions and government rules concerning strikes that affect the national security/economy).

The Constitution may be old, but there was a lot of collective wisdom put into its creation and final version, plus the Bill of Rights.

It is the Democrats who have refused to abide by the rules, not only of the Congress (i.e. Holder not prosecuting the thugs of the Black Panther Party for voter intimidation, among others; resisting legally ordered document production from Congress; and protecting the President when he ignores Congress and the Constitution), but also the White House’s undercutting ICE, Homeland Security, and the Border Patrol from doing their mandated jobs properly.

Georgetown Un. Law School, over the past two decades has taken a decidely leftist turn, including hiring well known communist/marxists/sympathizers (Rev. Robert Drinan, a certifiably psychopathic Jesuit priest and lawyer, former congressman; David Cole of the CPUSA legal front (National Lawyers Guild) created offshoot, the Center for Constitutional Rights (loaded at its birth in 1966 with old Communist Party attorneys, sympathizers and proteges; Castroites and even a few Trotskyites & Maoists).

Whether Seidman is that far left, I don’t know, but his thinking is similar to that of avowed marxist CCR leader Michael Ratner, among others. They use the Constitution to destroy it, try to interject international law and other countries laws into our system, and personally support the most law-restricted countries in the world includingt Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, the Soviet Union/Russia, and Nicaragua, among others).

What is really needed is a national debate on the relevancy of the Constitution today. I’d love Mark Levin and a few others on the conservative side to take on Seidman, etc.

It would be really informative if done well. I’m reminded of the Prof. Arthur Miller (GWU) townhall seminars on the law that appeared on TV about 10 years ago. Very well done and thought provoking.

The American people have to be reminded of the long struggle to define our country’s legal basis, judicial system, governmental structure, and how the Constitution has kept us running despite ocassional hitches (Watergate, Bill Clinton’s impeachment, and Fast & Furious).

We are a good country but are under many attacks, from without and from within. The Left, now aided by the covert Moslem shariaists and jihadists, has undertaken a full frontal assault on every basic American political, cultural, historical and economic foundation stone, and they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.

This needs to be exposed on a national scale, in a national forum. The American people must be awoken from their stupor and stupidity, in plain language and through understandable examples and incidents, if we are to survive as the America we know it, or become Obama’s Marxist-Lite version on the way to the heavier stuff (Obamacare’s punishments should be the searchlight in the face on what has been planned for a long time and what is yet to come).

Seidman should not be ignored. He has opened a door. The only question is what goes through it, an American 18-wheeler with the Constitution written on its side, or a Cesspool cleaning truck driven by Obama and Company.

Time to stand up for the Constitution and America, or get ready for leftist tyranny from the bench.


14 posted on 01/01/2013 12:02:46 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: nvscanman
instead of scraping the consttution, scrap 90% of the politicians and the gov’t
15 posted on 01/01/2013 12:03:15 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Full length movie, 90 minutes. But it will suck you in and the time will fly by. Make a cup of coffee and sit down some time. Very worth the time.

That Movie last summer “Obama’s America 2016” eexplained who Obama was. This movie is the companion piece that completely explains who found Obama and put him into office and why. People need to face it, as a person Obama isnt very bright, ambitious, or educated. So he only got where he did because an organized group got behind him and thrust him forward. This film explains who they were and what they were about.
Mostly it was a 4 decade effort by honest to goodness dedicated American communists.


16 posted on 01/01/2013 12:10:02 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Bratch

Scrap the Constitution? If that’s the case, then all bets are off, and anything goes. Be forewarned. Good luck with putting the genie back into the bottle.


17 posted on 01/01/2013 12:11:35 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Bratch

These are the kinds of evil people that run this country now


18 posted on 01/01/2013 12:16:01 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DesertRhino

Thank you.


19 posted on 01/01/2013 12:22:40 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Bratch
Time to scrap the constitution

Happening as we type.

20 posted on 01/01/2013 12:22:47 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Post Toasties

The same reason Obama was a Constitutional Law “scholar”.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 12:23:11 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Bratch
Louis Michael Seidman: Time to scrap the constitution

How can this clown (or insane person) end up teaching Constitutional Law at a major university?
Good grief!

We should dump a constitution that was 17 years in the making, debated ad infinitum, because a queer professor at Georgetown thinks it's antiquated?

Who will remember who Seidman is 50 years from today?

I could post so many reasons why delusional neurotics get media exposure when they spout nonsense, but I'll revisit this thread in a few hours, and hope normal people take a moment to respond.

22 posted on 01/01/2013 12:24:45 AM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Brad's Gramma

You bet,, and happy new year!


23 posted on 01/01/2013 12:25:26 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Bratch
Louis Michael Seidman, you can just go. Go to another country. I don't care. You can go by bike. You can go on a Zike-Bike if you like. If you like you can go in an old blue shoe. Just go, go, GO! Please do, do, DO!


24 posted on 01/01/2013 12:25:49 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Post Toasties; Bratch
This Seidman apparently wants to put the US on the fast track to totalitarianism. Why is an idiot like him allowed to teach constitutional law, anyway?

Ask the faculty hiring committee and the dean at Georgetown Law.

25 posted on 01/01/2013 12:36:28 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Bratch
... the Supreme Court could decree that mandates for private citizens to enter into contracts with private businesses is a-ok

Andrew Jackson famously dissed the Supreme Court, didn't he? When he defied their ruling against his eviction of the Seminoles.

Of all the branches of federal govern ment, the SCOTUS has the most tenuous hold on power, being entirely dependent on the executive branch for compliance with its decisions. One might say the same for the congress, I suppose, especially with the hyperextended powers of the executive branch these days, except that congress has deep roots among the populace, and many voices.

Of course, Seidman's call to brush aside the Constitution can be nothing other than a call for Presidential tyranny.

26 posted on 01/01/2013 12:36:47 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: DesertRhino

You too!! United we stand...


27 posted on 01/01/2013 12:38:55 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Seidman is all over the place re the Constitution.

Too right. Finally read his entire piece without laughing and it appears that he actually does like the Constitution, but only the bits that refer to the structure of government, you know, like 90%? And he's actually for the restrictions on the Executive except where they prove inconvenient.

To be honest, I've seen better pieces on the Constitution from junior high-schoolers. Seidman's case is that a government official who has decided on a course of action should not be impeded by white male colonialist oppressors' outmoded ideas, instead being guided by whatever happens to be in his head at the moment. The difficulty is that the government official in question owes his office to the legitimacy accorded by the Constitution, and if he doesn't listen to it, why should we listen to him?

28 posted on 01/01/2013 12:39:48 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: factoryrat

The Constitution is what created Congress and allows it to continue. Scrap the Constitution and you scrap all of Wash DC.

Hmmm....


29 posted on 01/01/2013 12:40:41 AM PST by Cololeo
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To: Cololeo; factoryrat

By the same token, if BO scraps the Constitution, then [yes I know he’s not Constitutionally eligible to begin with] he no longer has any claim to power over the United States, whose Constitution creates the office of POTUS.


30 posted on 01/01/2013 12:52:59 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Bratch

Might want to drop this a$$hole a line, I did! isn’t it always the case that these fatuous pricks think they’re so important that they need to use their middle names just to make sure we know who they “really” are! Like there are so many Louis Seidman’s around that he needs to differentiate himself by letting us all know his middle name. You will also note the obligatory beard.

http://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/seidman-louis-michael.cfm


31 posted on 01/01/2013 12:55:52 AM PST by vette6387
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To: DesertRhino

The video is fantastic! Another one to watch is Obama and Racist Black Theology:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7XMNEvDPUA&playnext=1&list=PL7870DC23E604F0FB&feature=results_main


32 posted on 01/01/2013 1:04:28 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: vette6387

“Seidman is well known for his contributions to constitutional legal theory, principally his theory of unsettlement put forward in his book Our Unsettled Constitution: A New Defense of Constitutionalism and Judicial Review (Yale 2001).[2] Drawing from the critical legal studies indeterminacy thesis, Seidman argues that because constitutional law cannot settle fundamental political disputes, constitutional legal discourse and judicial review instead act to “unsettle” them. Rather than resolving conflicts definitively, the temporary resolution of any controversy in constitutional law through judicial review leaves open the possibility that the losing side may make an equally plausible alternative constitutional argument. In this way, both the prevailing and losing sides in a dispute recognize their positions as unstable and subject to revision within the recognized standards of legal argument. As a result, both winners and losers have reasons to continue their debate within the framework of constitutional law, thereby keeping all parties at the table and consolidating the legal system.
Seidman’s defense of judicial review provided a counterpoint within the critical legal studies school to his colleague and sometime collaborator Mark Tushnet’s attack on judicial review as undemocratic.
In addition to Seidman’s theory of judicial review, he is also known for his widely respected[3] constitutional law casebook, co-authored with Pamela Karlan, Mark Tushnet, Geoffrey Stone and Cass Sunstein. Seidman is also noted for his work in criminal law and his book Silence and Freedom.[4] During the Sonia Sotomayor confirmation hearings, Seidman also attracted attention as an outspoken liberal detractor,[5] writing a scathing response to Sotomayor’s claims that she simply applies the law to the facts (arguing that this is impossible to do).[6]
Seidman has also recently intervened in the health care reform debate, defending the constitutionality of the single payer mandate against libertarian criticism on fora tv.[7]”

I looked the guy up and, sure enough, he is right there with the White House insiders. Critical legal theory is an Obama creed. Cass Sunstein is a co- author. We are going down this road, like it or not.


33 posted on 01/01/2013 1:20:10 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: thecodont

What’s the Constitution to Zer0? Zer0 wants to destroy America. This is total destruction where there will be nothing left.


34 posted on 01/01/2013 1:34:21 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

You’ve got it. Liberal elites want a document that puts them in charge... Seems that’s been tried before in the world... Oh wait - yeah - it’s every two bit dictatorship in the history of the world... right? Yeah, we’re all soooooo impressed.


35 posted on 01/01/2013 3:51:23 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Bratch

This leftist nut is sensing that the days of Republican or conservative control and influence in Washington has ended. He knows he has a fellow leftist ally in Obama and that Dem candidates of the future will most likely be as leftist as Commissar Barack. So who needs a silly thing like a constitution? Stalin certainly didn’t. What was good enough for Stalin is good enough for the U.S.


36 posted on 01/01/2013 4:16:12 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Bratch

He can call for the restoration of the King of England to rule America, his right to write nonsense is absolute.

Just as I can write that traitors should be hung from lamp posts.


37 posted on 01/01/2013 5:14:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ThunderSleeps
NOMINATED FOR BEST IDEA OF THE YEAR Set the whining libs and progs to write a new US constitution. Not only will the document have tremendous entertainment value, but it will keep the little xxxxxxxx’s busy, and not screwing up our country. The sap-happy a*******s get a sense of accomplishment, we all get a good laugh......then we Americans have a rollicking red-white-blue party to burn theirs.

THRIVING ON CHAOS Vote-crazed para-military dems----and disturbed Obamaton cliques----are creating a dysfunctional chaotic culture, The anti-social psychopaths recognize no moral and ethical boundaries----aggressively going after what they want, irregardless of the consequences.

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FR POSTED America is now run by angry, feral adolescents fueled by hatred, jealousy and revenge
Coach Is Right ^ | December 21st, 2012 | Derek Hollenbeck

POSTER COMMENTS It’s not uncommon for some in the minority community to believe that the white establishment (Republicans) uses its power to slander and destroy those who threaten the "status quo"......

Snide remarks about the “invisible and permanent powers-that-be” (Republicans) trying to take down minorities...... is a sentiment some minorities bandy about when they try to justify (what they deem) is their loser status.

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THIS KIND OF PERVERSE CORRUPT THINKING IS REMINSCENT OF THE POST-CIVIL WAR ERA----Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders into the South ----were prominent in politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from the Red Shirts and White Liners -----white paramilitary organizations, then-described as "the military arm of the Democratic Party", working openly to violently overthrow Republican rule, using intimidation and assassination to turn Republicans out of office and suppress freedmen's (former slaves) voting.

The Republican sheriff of Yazoo, Mississippi, received a brief flurry of national attention when insurgent white Democrats took over the county government and forced him to flee. (WIKI)

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FREEPER ACTION MEMO In 1875, Hiram Revels, a Mississippi Republican--and the first African-American US Senator-- wrote to then-Pres Ulysses S. Grant denouncing Northern invaders into the post-Civil War south for manipulating the Black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds. (WIKI)

We need to get someone with integrity----like Cong Allen West (not reelected)----- to write letters to his colleagues, and to the media.

Cong West needs to do the following:

(1) decry the agitation and intimidation tactics being used by these groups,

(2) expose using hatemongering for personal gain,

(3) emphasize the illegalities WRT threatening members of the US Congress,

(4) precpitate investigations into fraud and intimidation upon our electoral/legislative system by these hate-mongering groups, and,

(5) determine the scope and dimension of subversion these activities are visiting on US ntl security.

38 posted on 01/01/2013 5:16:02 AM PST by Liz
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To: Bratch

I have already commented on this article twice in the last 24 hours. Go find those threads... I have nothing left to say except... get a rope for this jerk.

LLS


39 posted on 01/01/2013 5:51:42 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: DesertRhino
If they kill the US Constitution they kill the biding document that holds together this once great Federal Union... then we can make the communists declare themselves the USSA and we will wall them up.

LLS

40 posted on 01/01/2013 5:54:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: KingNo155

No, no... by their words and actions we will know them.

LLS


41 posted on 01/01/2013 5:55:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: nvscanman

Time to scrap the Constitution?

I agree but not anywhere in the sense that Seidman intends.

Here is the public discussion that we need to start: how to repair the defects in that blessed document so they present tyranny can be terminated and it becomes more difficult for a new tyranny to arise?

I for one would forbid the federal government from creating its own money. Because of fiat money and the Federal Reserve, it has become a self-funding Leviathan who can go to war against foreign powers without having to ask the People for permission and support. It has also been able to wage ideological war against its own citizens via laws like AbominationCare which turns a tax into something else.

I would modify lifetime tenure for federal judges to require a periodic retention vote, say every 4 years in the off-year cycle for Supreme and Appeals Court judges.

The main problem is that the legislative and judicial history of the United States government is a roadmap for taking any similar new Constitution and using it to impose socialist tyranny. The nexus of this tyranny is the size of the government itself and a means must be found to firmly restrict its size. And size relates directly to the amount of vote buying and opportunities for cronyism. Where government expands, liberty must retreat.

I would also forbid the federal government from doing a function that a state or local government could do. And I would require Congress to authorize each federal regulation, that is the few that I would allow the federal government to impose.

But how to ensure that any restoration of the Constitution in Exile is not eroded and corroded into some new tyranny? We have as good an example as any of how plain words can be interpreted into mush in the way the Supreme Court has all but nullified the Tenth Amendment. And what about “shall not be infringed” is difficult to understand?

In my opinion we are at the point were we must honor the demand that the Founding Fathers made in the Preamble of the Declaration of Independence:

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”


42 posted on 01/01/2013 6:07:33 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Bratch
Garet Garrett wrote "The People's Pottage" in 1944. One essay in that book was "The Revolution Was". Garrett argued that the people defending the passes to save the Constitution missed the boat, because the revolution already happened "within form" of the Constitution.

We need to restore the Constitution and remove all unconstitutional actions by the Federal government, such as Social Security and Medicare.

Where's the Republican Party on this: "We need to reform Social Security and Medicare to save it for future generations."

Hell, the GOP can't even talk about eliminating the Dept. of Education, the most worthless organization in the Federal Government. The GOP saves Education and Labor for the benefit of the teacher's unions and other unions, so that they can fund the Democrats and defeat the GOP.

GOP, dumber than a sack of bricks.

43 posted on 01/01/2013 6:10:05 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Bratch

Keep you firearms and ammunition folks. You are going to need them.


44 posted on 01/01/2013 6:11:04 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Bratch

At the time of the Founders, governmental authority stemmed from a king or a prince or a pope or some other individual who didn’t often consider the interests of the common man. Instead of a flesh and blood, temporary authority, the Founders wrote a timeless authority in the form of a constitution. Liberals hate it because it doesn’t accommodate passing whims or allow a president or congress to act at will. The flaw is we have allowed judges to rewrite the document case by case.


45 posted on 01/01/2013 6:12:17 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Bratch
"observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken."

This is what always happens with Democrats in charge. I remember the proposals during the Carter Administration to split the Presidency into 2 parts, foreign and domestic. That talk died once Reagan came into office.

46 posted on 01/01/2013 6:27:19 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Bratch

I guess if this drooling troglodyte doesn’t want a constitution we can ignore his right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Let’s throw him in a zoo cage.


47 posted on 01/01/2013 6:46:44 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Bratch
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48 posted on 01/01/2013 6:56:15 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: theBuckwheat

They will call for a Constitutional Convention to “reaffirm” our rights.

Conservatives will support this under the illusion it would strengthen our founding principles.

But the deck will be stacked and we will end up with a “new” constitution, providing for human rights, unlimited gov’t and power centralized among a handful.

Statist from both parties will support this as they dream of holding the reigns of power.

The people will be left naked and unprotected.


49 posted on 01/01/2013 8:01:45 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Bratch

I think we all agree that this Louis Seidman is an absolute mental pin head - along with being either very evil or extremely naive.

Seidman mouths that he has “respect” for the Constitution. That is a complete lie. If he respected it he wouldn’t be calling for its dissolution.

I shuddered as I read his examples from the past where a president, or congress, or the Supreme Court circumvented the Constitution - all to prove his point that these “circumvention’s” were necessary to move the country “forward” (that sounds oddly familiar).

If he doesn’t get it that removing the boundaries of the Constitution completely would result in tyranny, then he really is naive in the extreme. That’s why I think he DOES know it and why he is very evil.

But, regarding the whole issue with the problem of the “Constitution” and how our system of government is teetering on the brink of collapse - As others have already said, it’s not the Constitution that is the problem, it’s this or that or the other.

My take on the problems our nation is facing is reflected by these two familiar quotes:

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” (John Adams, October 11, 1798.)

“We have been assured, sir, in the sacred writings, that ‘except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel; we shall be divided by our little partial, local interests, our projects will be confounded and we ourselves shall become a reproach and a byword down to future ages. And, what is worse, mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing government by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war, or conquest.” (Benjamin Franklin)

I think the two quotes above speak for themselves. Our nation has always had disagreements and differences, even violent differences of opinion. Yet, both sides appealed to the rightness of their position based not only on the Constitution, but also by the civil and moral principles as taught in the Bible. The problems and political crisis’ we’ve experienced as a nation, when we look back, usually were the result of when our people strayed away from both the Constitution and our moral principles.

Can our nation continue to exist morally, peacefully and Constitutionally when half of our citizenry and many or most in high governmental positions do not know the Constitution, do not care about it, and have no or very limited respect for God and the principles espoused in the Bible? Whatever tenuous unity we had is now gone. It was a deep belief in God, in His principles of right and wrong, and that these principles were the underlying foundations upon which our Constitution was written that has held our people together.

But, now that is gone. And, except for some miracle and act of mercy from God, I don’t see that unity ever returning.


50 posted on 01/02/2013 7:10:52 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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