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Louis Michael Seidman: Time to scrap the constitution
Conservatives4Palin ^ | December 31 2012 | Doug Brady

Posted on 12/31/2012 11:10:48 PM PST by Bratch

Edited on 01/01/2013 1:00:12 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I first thought this was going to be some kind of parody.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; marxist; seidman
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To: KingNo155

No, no... by their words and actions we will know them.

LLS


41 posted on 01/01/2013 5:55:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: nvscanman

Time to scrap the Constitution?

I agree but not anywhere in the sense that Seidman intends.

Here is the public discussion that we need to start: how to repair the defects in that blessed document so they present tyranny can be terminated and it becomes more difficult for a new tyranny to arise?

I for one would forbid the federal government from creating its own money. Because of fiat money and the Federal Reserve, it has become a self-funding Leviathan who can go to war against foreign powers without having to ask the People for permission and support. It has also been able to wage ideological war against its own citizens via laws like AbominationCare which turns a tax into something else.

I would modify lifetime tenure for federal judges to require a periodic retention vote, say every 4 years in the off-year cycle for Supreme and Appeals Court judges.

The main problem is that the legislative and judicial history of the United States government is a roadmap for taking any similar new Constitution and using it to impose socialist tyranny. The nexus of this tyranny is the size of the government itself and a means must be found to firmly restrict its size. And size relates directly to the amount of vote buying and opportunities for cronyism. Where government expands, liberty must retreat.

I would also forbid the federal government from doing a function that a state or local government could do. And I would require Congress to authorize each federal regulation, that is the few that I would allow the federal government to impose.

But how to ensure that any restoration of the Constitution in Exile is not eroded and corroded into some new tyranny? We have as good an example as any of how plain words can be interpreted into mush in the way the Supreme Court has all but nullified the Tenth Amendment. And what about “shall not be infringed” is difficult to understand?

In my opinion we are at the point were we must honor the demand that the Founding Fathers made in the Preamble of the Declaration of Independence:

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”


42 posted on 01/01/2013 6:07:33 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Bratch
Garet Garrett wrote "The People's Pottage" in 1944. One essay in that book was "The Revolution Was". Garrett argued that the people defending the passes to save the Constitution missed the boat, because the revolution already happened "within form" of the Constitution.

We need to restore the Constitution and remove all unconstitutional actions by the Federal government, such as Social Security and Medicare.

Where's the Republican Party on this: "We need to reform Social Security and Medicare to save it for future generations."

Hell, the GOP can't even talk about eliminating the Dept. of Education, the most worthless organization in the Federal Government. The GOP saves Education and Labor for the benefit of the teacher's unions and other unions, so that they can fund the Democrats and defeat the GOP.

GOP, dumber than a sack of bricks.

43 posted on 01/01/2013 6:10:05 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Bratch

Keep you firearms and ammunition folks. You are going to need them.


44 posted on 01/01/2013 6:11:04 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Bratch

At the time of the Founders, governmental authority stemmed from a king or a prince or a pope or some other individual who didn’t often consider the interests of the common man. Instead of a flesh and blood, temporary authority, the Founders wrote a timeless authority in the form of a constitution. Liberals hate it because it doesn’t accommodate passing whims or allow a president or congress to act at will. The flaw is we have allowed judges to rewrite the document case by case.


45 posted on 01/01/2013 6:12:17 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Bratch
"observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken."

This is what always happens with Democrats in charge. I remember the proposals during the Carter Administration to split the Presidency into 2 parts, foreign and domestic. That talk died once Reagan came into office.

46 posted on 01/01/2013 6:27:19 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Bratch

I guess if this drooling troglodyte doesn’t want a constitution we can ignore his right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Let’s throw him in a zoo cage.


47 posted on 01/01/2013 6:46:44 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Bratch
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48 posted on 01/01/2013 6:56:15 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: theBuckwheat

They will call for a Constitutional Convention to “reaffirm” our rights.

Conservatives will support this under the illusion it would strengthen our founding principles.

But the deck will be stacked and we will end up with a “new” constitution, providing for human rights, unlimited gov’t and power centralized among a handful.

Statist from both parties will support this as they dream of holding the reigns of power.

The people will be left naked and unprotected.


49 posted on 01/01/2013 8:01:45 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Bratch

I think we all agree that this Louis Seidman is an absolute mental pin head - along with being either very evil or extremely naive.

Seidman mouths that he has “respect” for the Constitution. That is a complete lie. If he respected it he wouldn’t be calling for its dissolution.

I shuddered as I read his examples from the past where a president, or congress, or the Supreme Court circumvented the Constitution - all to prove his point that these “circumvention’s” were necessary to move the country “forward” (that sounds oddly familiar).

If he doesn’t get it that removing the boundaries of the Constitution completely would result in tyranny, then he really is naive in the extreme. That’s why I think he DOES know it and why he is very evil.

But, regarding the whole issue with the problem of the “Constitution” and how our system of government is teetering on the brink of collapse - As others have already said, it’s not the Constitution that is the problem, it’s this or that or the other.

My take on the problems our nation is facing is reflected by these two familiar quotes:

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” (John Adams, October 11, 1798.)

“We have been assured, sir, in the sacred writings, that ‘except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel; we shall be divided by our little partial, local interests, our projects will be confounded and we ourselves shall become a reproach and a byword down to future ages. And, what is worse, mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing government by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war, or conquest.” (Benjamin Franklin)

I think the two quotes above speak for themselves. Our nation has always had disagreements and differences, even violent differences of opinion. Yet, both sides appealed to the rightness of their position based not only on the Constitution, but also by the civil and moral principles as taught in the Bible. The problems and political crisis’ we’ve experienced as a nation, when we look back, usually were the result of when our people strayed away from both the Constitution and our moral principles.

Can our nation continue to exist morally, peacefully and Constitutionally when half of our citizenry and many or most in high governmental positions do not know the Constitution, do not care about it, and have no or very limited respect for God and the principles espoused in the Bible? Whatever tenuous unity we had is now gone. It was a deep belief in God, in His principles of right and wrong, and that these principles were the underlying foundations upon which our Constitution was written that has held our people together.

But, now that is gone. And, except for some miracle and act of mercy from God, I don’t see that unity ever returning.


50 posted on 01/02/2013 7:10:52 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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