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5 Reasons God Allows Tragedies Like the Sandy Hook Massacre To Occur
Townhall.com ^ | January 1, 2013 | John Hawkins

Posted on 01/01/2013 5:35:59 AM PST by Kaslin

As a Christian, it can be difficult to reconcile all the evil that happens in the world with an all knowing, all powerful loving God who could stop it if He wants, but chooses not to do so. If our hearts break for the innocent children who were senselessly murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary, how can a God who loves us not feel the same way? If any of us had known what Adam Lanza was going to do, we would have done anything in our power to stop him, so why didn't God? All too often we tend to quote some arcane scripture, chalk it up to God "moving in mysterious ways" and shrug our shoulders. While none of us have the authority to speak for God, there are plausible explanations for why God would choose not to intervene to prevent a tragedy.

1) He gives us free will: God didn't make robots who were designed to execute His will. Instead He gave us the freedom to make our own decisions. He lets us choose between being right and wrong, good and evil or wise and foolish. We can follow Him or scorn Him. We can obey Him or ignore Him. We can take His advice or go our own way. It's our choice...and sometimes choices have terrible consequences. But, of course, how could it be otherwise and still be a choice?

2) It's a necessity for faith: "If God wanted to remove all doubt about his existence, He could do so — but, He doesn’t because the cornerstone of Christianity is faith. Imagine what would happen if bad things DIDN’T happen to good people. What if when an airline crashes, only the non-Christians die while all the believers walk away unscathed? What if the moment someone becomes an atheist, he is immediately struck by lightning and killed? What if every rape, murder, robbery, and painful illness only happens to non-believers? If that were the case, then no faith would be required to be a Christian."

3) He has a different perspective: Our God gave "His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Imagine being in his place as Jesus was jeered, whipped and had to suffer and die in agony on the cross. What would run through your mind as your Son was crucified and uttered the words, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" when you had the power to free Him, heal His wounds and strike down His tormentors at will. Our God made that sacrifice for each and every one of us so that we could be saved. That's how much He cares for us. Yet and still, God has known the hopes, hurts, loves and secret dreams of all of us who've come into this world, lived our lives and passed on. After watching billions of people He cares for die and shouldering responsibilities we can't even begin to fathom, God doesn't see the world through the same eyes as we do.

4) We often turn to God in times of tragedy: One of the sad truths of human nature is that when we're happy, healthy, loved, secure and our pockets are full, most of us think we already have all the answers and don't turn to God. As C.S. Lewis wrote, "God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: It is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world." It's not that God wants us to ache, causes it, or wishes for it to happen, but He realizes that's often what spurs us in His direction. A long pleasant existence full of leisure, contentment and pleasure that ends with a trip to Hell because there was never a need to reach for God is a failed life.

5) Ultimately it's about Heaven, not earth: What we do with our lives is no small matter. We should try to make the most of our talents, do what we can for others and make the most of what we have. But, it's worth remembering that Billy Graham was right when he said, "My home is in Heaven. I'm just traveling through this world." Our lives seem long and crucially important because it's all we can see, hear, and touch, but God knows there's an eternity that stretches beyond our time here. It can be incredibly painful when our time here ends with those we care about, but God gets to see the reunions in the next lifetime.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: faithandfamily; god; moralabsolutes; newtown; prayer; sandyhook; schoolshooting

1 posted on 01/01/2013 5:36:09 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I believe God gave great gifts to mankind. I also believe that love eternal will not be denied eventually, even though the force of evil would like to deny.


2 posted on 01/01/2013 5:51:52 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Kaslin

God has given man the choice to do good or evil and he will be the the judge .


3 posted on 01/01/2013 5:52:08 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Kaslin

Even death is a learning experience for the soul. Not even an atomic bomb drooped on one’s head can destroy a soul. But sin sure can keep a soul shackled in hell for a long time!


4 posted on 01/01/2013 5:53:17 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Kaslin

We are ALL here on this world for only a brief moment in time, the tenancy of our bodies is all we really own, and that brief time is the only thing we ever have to sell to others. How we use this opportunity, and the greater or lesser good we accomplish while here, is the only legacy that counts with Heaven.

For those who do not or cannot bring themselves to believe and express their faith, the world must seem a dark and unyielding place, filled with unending dangers and fraught with negativity.

Do souls ever really expire, or are they reborn again and again, while striving toward some distant ideal of perfectability, taking these lessons from lifetime to lifetime? It would seem to be a most extravagant waste of energy to simply make one cast of each spark of soul that makes up the psyche of every human being, then throw it away upon expiration of bodily life.

Gloom is not eternal, hope is.


5 posted on 01/01/2013 5:53:38 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Kaslin

Sandy Hook was a terrible tradgedy, but only a drop in the bucket to the thousands aborted every day.Why doesn’t God give Palsy to every abortionist on the face of the earth?

Why did God allow the Holocaust, or the Inquisition?

Why does God allow drug dealers to prosper?

We start asking questions like these and it can go on into affinity.


6 posted on 01/01/2013 5:53:46 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

Sandy Hook was a terrible tradgedy, but only a drop in the bucket to the thousands aborted every day.Why doesn’t God give Palsy to every abortionist on the face of the earth?

Why did God allow the Holocaust, or the Inquisition?

Why does God allow drug dealers to prosper?

We start asking questions like these and it can go on into infinity.


7 posted on 01/01/2013 5:53:56 AM PST by Venturer
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8 posted on 01/01/2013 5:54:08 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Kaslin

Thank God for His forgiveness and Divine Grace. Without it, this journey would be hopeless.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 5:54:36 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: alloysteel

“It would seem to be a most extravagant waste of energy to simply make one cast of each spark of soul that makes up the psyche of every human being, then throw it away upon expiration of bodily life.”

I agree. God recycles!

For me it is reality. Having died and returned here due to an illness, the bigger picture becomes much clearer.


10 posted on 01/01/2013 5:59:31 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Kaslin

I’m at the age where one kind of spectacles goes on, and another kind comes off. So I have answers, but I’ll just shut up.

HNY and may you be HAL.


11 posted on 01/01/2013 6:02:31 AM PST by HomeAtLast
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To: Kaslin

Excellent points.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 6:03:12 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: alloysteel

>>>Do souls ever really expire, or are they reborn again and again, while striving toward some distant ideal of perfectability...

It is appointed to man ONCE to die, then comes the judgment.

The soul is eternal... that does NOT mean souls are re-born into another body here on earth.

God says in His word that those who have died that belong to Him will receive an incorruptible new body that will dwell with Him forever in heaven.


13 posted on 01/01/2013 6:14:27 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Venturer

Only God knows why things like this happen.

The only difference between God and John Hawkins is God never thinks he’s John Hawkins.

Just Believe!


14 posted on 01/01/2013 6:15:17 AM PST by not2worry ( NO MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

While there is some truth to every point that the writer makes, personally I think it is a bit of human vanity to try to explain why God allows evil. Even possibly absurd.

Most of the time - if not all - it cannot be explained, and to try to explain it only somehow diminishes in our understanding of who God is.

We can only explain that which scripture states, and let it rest there. The human mind will never fully grasp who God is - or He would not be God, and we more than His creatures.

What we can state is that in the face of the greatest evil (that screams to us that God is unjust, or not good Himself) that God is indeed good, holy, righteous, and that His ways (so far beyond man’s understanding) are beyond us.

We can also state that through the incredible work of the cross of Christ, He redeems evil - and turns it for good - for those who love God, for those called according to HIs purpose. The fav verses of more believers than any other: Romans 8:28, 29 (you should never separate them).

What is the worst unimaginable evil that ever occurred? Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Rwanda?

I would say, no. The worst evil in all of history was the false trial, conviction, torture and murder of the only perfect, pure, good, loving and righteous Man who ever walked the earth. No other evil compares with this - not even Newtown.

But then we must next ask, what was the most wonderful thing to ever occur in history? The best thing of all? The same thing. The death, burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus, whereby man is redeemed from his hopeless state of sinfulness, made righteous, and given an open heaven into the very presence of God.

This is the ultimate act of redemption - of turning evil for good - for the salvation of the world. “God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son...”

We are a bit foolish and arrogant I believe to try to explain evil.

We cannot.

But, we can state that God, through the work of Jesus Christ on the cross, redeems evil and turns it for good in the end. Not for all - but for all who believe........


15 posted on 01/01/2013 6:25:08 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Venturer

“Sandy Hook was a terrible tragedy,”

Public education is a terrible tragedy!

Brainwashes children. Turns them to liberals/socialists, etc.

What if they had been homeschooled?


16 posted on 01/01/2013 6:28:30 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I have tightned the sphincter! ....)
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To: Lionheartusa1

“God has given man the choice to do good or evil and he will be the the judge.”

The counties containing Newtown (Sandy Hook shootings) and Staten Island (Hurricane Sandy devastation) went heavy for Obama in the last election. Perhaps this theme could be identified for other “natural” tragedies; I haven’t researched others.

But, in case God is raining down punishments, if I were to relocate in the near future, I’d be checking recent voting stats when considering potential residences. Just saying...


17 posted on 01/01/2013 6:34:25 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Kaslin

your number (4) is particularly upsetting. i dont beleive that for a minute. God visits us with suffering so we will turn to him. thats ugly.


18 posted on 01/01/2013 6:37:23 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

It might be upsetting to you, but it is fact


19 posted on 01/01/2013 6:51:40 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Scrambler Bob
What if they had been homeschooled?

A homeschooling parent or family member could be just as sick and evil as anyone else. And I say this as someone who as been homeschooling her kids for the last 20 years. I'm as big an advocate of homeschooling as anyone I know, but I know that anything can happen to anyone anywhere. There are evil people everywhere.

20 posted on 01/01/2013 6:53:09 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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To: Arlis

” The human mind will never fully grasp who God is - or He would not be God, and we more than His creatures. “

How very true. So often we find ourselves defining who God is, what His job is, and how he’s doing at it, and fail to see the absurdity of our arrogance. In essence, we appoint ourselves to the position of firing God.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 7:06:10 AM PST by Humble Servant (Work for the most conservative one in the race, and keep up the pressure.)
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To: Kaslin

This article is boring and predictable in its non-answers.

1) He gives us free will: Yeah this argument is overstated. We are like pinballs in God’s pinball machine and have every little “free will” to exercise. Some of us were born black, to our horror, some of us were born to stupid and abusive “parents”, some of us were born disabled, etc.

2) . What if when an airline crashes, only the non-Christians die while all the believers walk away unscathed? What if the moment someone becomes an atheist, he is immediately struck by lightning and killed? What if every rape, murder, robbery, and painful illness only happens to non-believers? If that were the case, then no faith would be required to be a Christian.—this is stupid and yes, if God were to do what He said, the Christians would walk away and the evil would die. This is how things should be and how the Bible paints the law of reaping and sowing. However, in the real world Christians are more likely to suffer. How does that fact help God’s cause if His real purpose is to win souls?

3) He has a different perspective: Our God gave “His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” As a parent, if I had the power to swoop down and smite Herod, Pontias Pilate and the others, save Joan of Arc, Bonhoeffer etc. I definitely would. I wouldn’t sit there and watch my Son be tortured and not help Him.

4) We often turn to God in times of tragedy: One of the sad truths of human nature is that when we’re happy, healthy, loved, secure and our pockets are full, most of us think we already have all the answers and don’t turn to God. As C.S. Lewis wrote, “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains:—wrong wrong wrong. There are people begging God to turn up the volume as they are tortured by satan, but God is absent or inaudible.

5) Ultimately it’s about Heaven, not earth: And why the evil prosper and get to have fun, and those oblivious to God get to have full lives while those cognizant of God are tortured is beyond me. Why those families in Newtown were specially selected for the torture of murder of their little child, why Lanza’s mom was specially selected to be murdered by her own son, abandoned by her husband, and to have to raise an evil child on her own, while liars prosper who can say.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 7:14:27 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname

I was being a little obtuse.

If they were all at home, Lanza couldn’t have got them all.

And If God was to have protected them from the tragedy ...
don’t have them in one place. And back up one step, its a real tragedy to have them in the liberal sewer, and back one more step ...

Trying to figure out God will strain your brain.

Discussion is why God allows tragedies? Well, He is merciful to Me, a sinner, and patient while He works to change me into His Image from the inside out.


23 posted on 01/01/2013 7:15:37 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I have tightened the sphincter! ....)
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To: Kaslin

“fact” ?

I think not.

but you are entitled to your opinion and your view of God.


24 posted on 01/01/2013 7:22:54 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Kaslin

I think the writer confused God with Superman. Saying God “allowed” something is an attempt to blame God for the action of a lunatic. Some of the problem is that we give God too much credit for good stuff which places us in an uncomfortable position when something bad happens.

If you win the lottery, it doesn’t necessarily mean that God did it.


25 posted on 01/01/2013 7:23:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: Lionheartusa1
God has given man the choice to do good or evil and he will be the the judge.

When people ask, "Why would a loving God allow this to happen?" they don't think it through. If God does not allow this terrible evil, why would he allow something less evil, such as speeding, drunk driving, stealing, cheating, lying, etc.?

If God allowed NO evil, we would be an ant colony with each assigned a task and no choice in the matter. No choice to do good or evil. Have you ever watched ants and envied their perfect world? They just exist so other ants will exist in the future. They do not strive to improve their lot and make things even better for themselves and future ants. Can you picture ants taking a two-day weekend?

Humans, however, are given the ability to create new things, to improve their world, to be able to take time off to sit back and enjoy the world around them.

If tragedy cannot be offset in peoples' minds by creativity, freedom, beauty, and relaxation, then we should sign up for the Left's perfect world, at its pinnacle in North Korea.

26 posted on 01/01/2013 7:33:16 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Kaslin

The Biblical truth is as John said, “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one” (1 John 5:19)

Before this “wicked one”, the Devil, is destroyed the effect upon the world of mankind is called “woe”, (Rev. 12:12).

Thus there is no need to speculate as we have the inspired word of God explaining the real source of evil in the world.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 7:37:47 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Kaslin

The whole issue boils down to why does God allow man to die. Everything else is just a matter of timing.


28 posted on 01/01/2013 7:44:24 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

God didn’t allow for Sandy Hook to take place nor does He allow for evil to cause tragedy, mankind does, we have free will and we often choose evil.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 7:57:02 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Humble Servant

“So often we find ourselves defining who God is, what His job is, and how he’s doing at it, and fail to see the absurdity of our arrogance. In essence, we appoint ourselves to the position of firing God.”

Profound.

And a perfect description of the majority of what is called Christianity today.

Man is at his best when he humbly prostrates himself before his God, stating that “we see through a glass darkly..” (KJV), and, “when you have done ALL that is commanded you, say, “I am an unprofitable servant (an unworthy slave).” And when we pray daily John the Baptist’s prayer, “Lord - may I decrease, and may You increase....”

And not be surprised when He begins to answer that prayer in putting us in circumstances where we find ourselves decreasing. The same John, once imprisoned and facing imminent death - having his whole ministry brought to an abrupt end - in answer to his previous prayer - asked, “Lord - are you the One?.......”

“Blessed is he who is not offended in Me...” ..... when I begin to diminish you - for My own glory to increase......


30 posted on 01/01/2013 8:07:31 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Kaslin

If we knew not hate, we could not fully appreciate love.
If we knew not folly, we could not fully appreciate wisdom.
If we knew not ugliness, we could not fully appreciate beauty.
If we knew not evil, we could not fully appreciate goodness.
If we knew not punishment, we could not fully appreciate forgiveness.

Our God allows us, for a time, to experience the former in order to heighten our appreciation for the latter. And those innocents are now experiencing a paradise they could never have imagined.


31 posted on 01/01/2013 8:08:58 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Kaslin

How ‘bout “We are fallen and sinful race who rejected God’s care and love in the Garden. Since then, whatever happens to us is our fault.”


32 posted on 01/01/2013 8:23:17 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Kaslin

STUDENT’S FATHER 12 YEARS LATER !! Guess our national leaders didn’t expect this. On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton , Colorado , was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee’s subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.

They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.. The following is a portion of the transcript:

“Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.

“The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain’s heart.

“In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don’t believe that they are responsible for my daughter’s death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel’s murder I would be their strongest opponent

I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy — it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.

Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You’ve stripped away our heritage,
You’ve outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question “Why?”
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!

“Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation’s history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine’s tragedy occurs — politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

“As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA — I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!
My daughter’s death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!”
- Darrell Scott

Do what the media did not - - let the nation hear this man’s speech. Please send this out to everyone.
God Bless


33 posted on 01/01/2013 8:36:04 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: Kaslin

It helps to read the book of Job in its entirety every few years or so.


34 posted on 01/01/2013 8:41:12 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Kaslin

GOD IS THE TRUTH.

AND WE SEE THE TRUTH THROUGH OUR EYES AND PERCEPTIONS, WE SEE JUST A SLIVER OF THE FULL TRUTH.

WE ACCEPT GOD THROUGH FAITH AND HOPE TO SEE THE FULL TRUTH IN GOD AFTER OUR DEATH.


35 posted on 01/01/2013 8:46:46 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: Kaslin

Here’s what I don’t get. You can go through life as a good person, never harming a sole, and yet if you don’t believe in god he takes offense and sentences you to an eternity in a lake of fire.

What’s the purpose of that? Why does an all-powerful deity need to be worshipped, thanked and praised constantly. Is he insecure?

I’m not trying to offend. I just can’t grasp the concept of eternal torture for not believing. A kind loving god?


36 posted on 01/01/2013 8:58:08 AM PST by strider44
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To: circlecity

“The whole issue boils down to why does God allow man to die. ...”

Love your summary. Gets to the point right now!

Meditating on it should lead one to the foolishness/vanity of human thought.

= = = =
The Truth is:
Gen 2:17
...for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


37 posted on 01/01/2013 9:28:31 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I have tightened the sphincter! ....)
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To: strider44

Good question.


38 posted on 01/01/2013 9:28:58 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: alloysteel
Do souls ever really expire, or are they reborn again and again, while striving toward some distant ideal of perfectability, taking these lessons from lifetime to lifetime? It would seem to be a most extravagant waste of energy to simply make one cast of each spark of soul that makes up the psyche of every human being, then throw it away upon expiration of bodily life.

Souls never expire.They are not thrown away at death,unless condemed to hell.

As for as reincarnation? I'm a church going Catholic I don't rule it out. God seeks perfection in all of us,but knows we are not capable of it. So maybe He gives us a chance through "multiple" lives to "Work" on it.

That would be a fun conversation to have over a pitcher of beer in a pizza place.

39 posted on 01/01/2013 3:50:29 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: Arlis
I would say, no. The worst evil in all of history was the false trial, conviction, torture and murder of the only perfect, pure, good, loving and righteous Man who ever walked the earth. No other evil compares with this - not even Newtown.

In away yes,but in away No.

God sent his Son to save us from our own sins. It had to happen,and to make it work He had to send apart of Himself to this lowly planet to save us from ourselves.

The absolute evil we have seen since Christ's death on the Cross has been in direct defiance of Jesus Christ's love.

40 posted on 01/01/2013 4:09:27 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: strider44; MinorityRepublican
Here’s what I don’t get. You can go through life as a good person, never harming a sole, and yet if you don’t believe in god he takes offense and sentences you to an eternity in a lake of fire.

What’s the purpose of that? Why does an all-powerful deity need to be worshipped, thanked and praised constantly. Is he insecure?

I’m not trying to offend. I just can’t grasp the concept of eternal torture for not believing. A kind loving god?

Assuming you meant these as honest questions, let me offer the following:

Christianity teaches that ALL men fall short of God's perfect righteousness. We all sin and sin dwells within us as long as we are in this mortal body. No one has to teach a child to lie or steal. Rather, we have to teach them not to.

So the flaw in your question is presuming that the theoretical person is "good". He/she could be by your standards but not to God's by His standard of holiness and righteousness.

God requires holiness and righteousness of everyone who enters into His kingdom after death only we are all doomed to fall short of this without the act of Jesus Christ on the cross to bear that punishment for us so that we might have life everlasting through Him.

So what becomes of the aborted fetus or the gunned-down six-year-old or the bushman who was never told about the gospel of Christ? Where do those souls go? I can't answer that except to say that God is just and fair. It wouldn't help you, however, because I've just explained Christ's work to you so you can't say nobody ever told you.

Is God insecure? I doubt that but worship and thanks should be a natural outpouring of our souls when we fully understand God's love and mercy towards us. Would you be ungrateful if someone saved your life and you couldn't have saved it on your own?

As for the Lake of Fire, perhaps it helps to understand that Christians believe there are only two possible outcomes after you die - in one you are brought to Heaven to worship and fellowship with an eternal God and the entire family of those who believed Him. In the other, you spend eternity cut off from God's mercy and fellowship because you chose to reject it. There's no "third choice" option.

We ALL deserve the Lake of Fire for our sin and impure hearts but God allows us to escape this through the free gift of Jesus' work on the cross. He desires all to be saved but He allows everyone the free will to decide what personal choice they want to make. He doesn't want to be worshipped by robots who had no choice. He wants us all to decide for Him or against Him.

41 posted on 01/03/2013 10:26:50 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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