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Fiscal Cliff Boondogle - How the Senate Voted
US Senate ^ | Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Posted on 01/01/2013 6:44:16 AM PST by upchuck

Link to how they voted.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; fiscalcliff

1 posted on 01/01/2013 6:44:21 AM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 7 - Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto

All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.


2 posted on 01/01/2013 6:52:22 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: upchuck

Good on Sen DeMint (R-SC) for not voting. His resignation was effective at 11:59pm last night.

The Senators whose class ended in 2012 should not have voted either.


3 posted on 01/01/2013 7:03:35 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: upchuck

Senator “Dung Heap” Harken voted NAY? What the.....?


4 posted on 01/01/2013 7:07:11 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: upchuck

The RINO-Marxists have identified themselves—Time to go hunting.


5 posted on 01/01/2013 7:13:41 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: upchuck

$620B in tax hikes; a mere $15B in cuts. The prevaricator-in-chief claimed to want a ‘balanced’ approach. Instead he has taken a wrecking ball to the economy. Can ANOTHER downgrade of the US credit rating be far away?


6 posted on 01/01/2013 7:14:03 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SERKIT

Probably not enough in tax hikes &/or too many spending “cuts” to satisfy Harkin.


7 posted on 01/01/2013 7:29:04 AM PST by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: mellow velo
Statements from Senator "Dung Heap" Harkin and Senator Grassley.
8 posted on 01/01/2013 7:47:00 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: HangnJudge

As our great leaders are good at doing they play games with the Constitution. In this case they take a bill that originates in the house, strip most everything out of it, pass the bill and then send it back to the house.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 7:48:44 AM PST by rwh
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To: SERKIT

Seven communist dim senators voted against it because they wanted across the bord tax increases and a 75% death tax along with a 75% capital gains tax.

LLS


10 posted on 01/01/2013 7:52:29 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: SERKIT

Seven communist dim senators voted against it because they wanted across the bord tax increases and a 75% death tax along with a 75% capital gains tax.

LLS


11 posted on 01/01/2013 7:52:37 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Where did you come up with the number 7? Here are the 8 who voted against it:

Bennet (D-CO) Carper (D-DE) Grassley (R-IA) Harkin (D-IA) Lee (R-UT) Paul (R-KY) Rubio (R-FL) Shelby (R-AL)

12 posted on 01/01/2013 8:00:56 AM PST by kabar
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To: Arm_Bears

No kidding...Senator Toomey (R-PA) voted in favor and he’s spewing the party line: “Neither side gets all it wants, but this protects 99% of taxpayers with permanent tax relief”

If he thinks that this will make those of us who don’t agree happy, he’s got another thing coming! Now we know he’s a party line, RINO at heart and he must go!!!! Looks like he was telling the Tea Party to shove it! Well, Toomey, you can SHOVE IT! I will never vote for anyone again who votes for this and that includes our Rep Marino. Can’t wait to see what he does! (He already has RINO in his name!)
The Libertarian Party is looking better and better to me!


13 posted on 01/01/2013 8:04:29 AM PST by Cricket24 (Telling the truth is not attacking someone!)
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To: upchuck
The Senators whose class ended in 2012 should not have voted either.

Like Kay Bailey Hutch...who voted YEA.

14 posted on 01/01/2013 8:06:30 AM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Starboard
$620B in tax hikes; a mere $15B in cuts.

Hopefully, the House will expose this fuzzy math for what it is...not holding my breath, though.

15 posted on 01/01/2013 8:09:46 AM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: kabar

Fox News... but this was the vote and that was before the vote... reported on Fox and Friends this morning. They actually showed the pictures of the seven. I guess harry twisted some arms.

LLS


16 posted on 01/01/2013 8:13:43 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: upchuck

I cannot believe all the yea votes from the GOP.


17 posted on 01/01/2013 8:27:55 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: upchuck
Photobucket The culmination of decades of shredding of our Constitution.
18 posted on 01/01/2013 8:57:33 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: andyk

“I cannot believe all the yea votes from the GOP...”

Noticed that myself.

How do you predict these same “Republican” senators are going to vote when Feinstein’s gun control/confiscation bill comes up in front of them?


19 posted on 01/01/2013 8:58:44 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: SERKIT

He wanted more taxes on more people, I believe the 3 democrats voted against it because it wasn’t confiscatory enough. I can only assume the 5 Republicans stood for NO tax increase on any American, neither of my Senators were in this group and I’m not surprised.


20 posted on 01/01/2013 9:13:18 AM PST by duffee (Newt Gingrich for Speaker)
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To: Cricket24

Toomey turned out to be a fraud. He also supported the sodomization of the military.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 9:15:54 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: upchuck

Bump.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 9:29:31 AM PST by EternalVigilance (House Republican leaders only use the purse strings to hold up their pantywaists.)
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To: upchuck

I post the following excellent points from a fellow FReeper who prefers to remain anonymous:

89-8?

I guess that it appears a few senators voted after the expiration of their terms of office would not have changed the outcome of the bill?

According to my reading of the Constitution, the terms of office of all senators of the first class expired at Midnight 31 December 2012.

That the next session will not be sworn in until 3 January 2013 is irrelevant in my mind.

If the Senate wanted to vote on this bill at 2:00 am this morning – their first order of business after midnight should’ve been to re-swear all returning senators to the first, second and third classes and to swear in for the first time all the new Senators-elect to the first class.

Senators, like James Webb among others, should not have voted after the expiration of their terms of office.

Webb’s term of office ended at midnight.

Most years this doesn’t matter – because rarely (if ever) has a Senate vote occurred at 2:00 am 1 January.

I believe this was an illegal (un-Constitutional) vote.

The Constitution plainly uses the word “year,” i.e. “vacated at the end of the… YEAR” not the end of the current session.

Just another egregious violation of the plain meaning of the Constitution – I guess nobody gives a squat anymore.

Nothing in the XVII amendment changes their terms of office from “year” to “session.”

BOHICA.


23 posted on 01/01/2013 9:46:36 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: upchuck

I’m not sure why that FReeper prefers anonymity - these points are first class!


24 posted on 01/01/2013 10:31:20 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: kabar

Cornyn in Texas needs to be defeated in the next primary.

He should be ashamed. I hope he will be challenged by a good Tea Party candidate.


25 posted on 01/01/2013 12:19:40 PM PST by dominic flandry
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To: upchuck

“American Taxpayer RELIEF Act of 2012”....RELIEF!!!!!!!!!!!?


26 posted on 01/02/2013 11:50:57 AM PST by Phosgood (Send in the Clowns...but Wait, they're here!! >..<)
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