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Here come the crazies (Cuomo, Obama, to release more mental patients)
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Posted on 01/01/2013 10:06:36 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

The Cuomo administration is preparing to shove thousands of mentally ill New Yorkers out of supervised settings — where they can be forced to take their medication — into far less restrictive, far more dangerous “community housing.”

Albany, under pressure from the Obama administration, recently ordered psychiatric facilities not to place any discharged patients in adult homes, where staff can ensure they take their meds.

Instead, they’ll be placed in “community housing,” without full-time supervision.

This is part of the state’s plan to essentially empty adult homes into community-based “supportive” apartments, leaving up to 6,000 people — including those with schizophrenia — to live on their own, with minimal supervision.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: New York
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Release the mentally ill without medication or supervision and disarm the non crazy people. "Brilliant."
1 posted on 01/01/2013 10:06:43 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Is this part of the gun-grabbers strategy? More gun violence being leashed upon the gullible public?


2 posted on 01/01/2013 10:08:59 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
New Yorkers do not love their children as other people do.

There are going to be hundreds of young victims as a result of this release program.

3 posted on 01/01/2013 10:09:07 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What were they “thinking!?”


4 posted on 01/01/2013 10:09:25 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This makes sense... BO has a lot of cabinet positions to refill... they’ll fit right in!


5 posted on 01/01/2013 10:12:14 AM PST by vet7279
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It’s OK, see, because they have outlawed guns in NY. So it’s cool.


6 posted on 01/01/2013 10:12:26 AM PST by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

You can thank Jerry Rivers for getting this ball rolling in the 70’s with Willow Brook. Instead of reforming the system, they through the baby out with the bath water.

Group homes were the result of it and now they want to close them. It’ll be out-patient clinics now with virtually no supervision whatsoever.

Liberals just love to experiment on the general population and use them as guinea pigs.


7 posted on 01/01/2013 10:18:54 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: muawiyah
New Yorkers do not love their children as other people do. There are going to be hundreds of young victims as a result of this release program...

On the lighter brighter side, the crazy violent ones won't be able to buy large soft drinks...

8 posted on 01/01/2013 10:20:26 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: muawiyah

Not all of us are that way.
But enough do suffer a mental disconnect that keeps the rest of us from making a difference.
Plus, New York has long had an issue with Imperial Governance in Albany.
[We actually did have signage that read “Mario M. Cuomo, Emperor” as you entered NY.]

NY elected representatives also brought to the world “Tammany Hall” style politics.
Not all of the state is Albany or NY City.

Keep us in prayer, we will need it.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 10:21:43 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Didn’t Carter do this same moronicity?


10 posted on 01/01/2013 10:23:38 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: headstamp 2

Through- Threw


11 posted on 01/01/2013 10:24:27 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Oh Lord, please help me get out of NY sooner than later.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 10:25:17 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Oh, goody.

The latest Mariel boat lift without the boats.

Everything, and I mean everything, the left touches turns to dung.

13 posted on 01/01/2013 10:26:35 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Darksheare

“Didn’t Carter do this same moronicity?”

I believe that was the start of the push to close state mental institutions. The result of which was group homes. Now they want to close them.


14 posted on 01/01/2013 10:27:20 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2
In 1975 liberal elites watched 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'. They decided en masse that those locked up were 'wise liberal hippies' in waiting... So they dumped the crazies on the streets of working class neighborhoods.

It's how liberals gave us the homeless and hopeless to undermine our values... This choice - one more liberal 'feel good about themselves' choice - was a crime against those in need and a crime against working class families.

A twofer for evil liberal elites.

15 posted on 01/01/2013 10:28:23 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hmmm, more “programmed” individuals taking meds let loose on the streets. Yes, this is a fantastic idea. I predict they will be called right wing extremists...


16 posted on 01/01/2013 10:28:40 AM PST by phalynx
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To: Darksheare

Amen. Looking to escape. I believe NY is done and over. Weren’t we the one who decided not to go “vote” for a Union, because we would vote no?

Instead we decided not to show up since a full count was needed for the USA?


17 posted on 01/01/2013 10:29:54 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Cheerio
This policy change on its face makes no sense. It is a reprise of the deinstitutionalization fiasco of the 60s and 70s. So follow the money. This is Obamacare in action. Facilities for the seriously mentally ill, with 24/7 supervision, are very expensive. "community homes," which will quickly become unsafe and unsanitary garbage dumps, not nearly as much.

This is the Obama philosophy: Save the money, let them loose, and if they die, they die. It does not account for those who survive long enough to be readmitted to psych hospitals, only to go around the track one more time.

18 posted on 01/01/2013 10:31:28 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: headstamp 2

And when Carter did his thing, crime rates shot up.


19 posted on 01/01/2013 10:34:04 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Worked in California.

Write a gun ban bill.

Release a mental patient.

Allow the patient to buy a gun and pass the waiting period.

Patient shoots up the school yard in Stockton, then kills himself.

Bun bill immediately pulled out and passed in a heat of passion.

California gun owners loose their rights.


20 posted on 01/01/2013 10:36:05 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: NoGrayZone

NY has been cheesehead central for pretty much the entire run of this nation.
It needs to be bashed into ruin and rebuilt.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 10:37:26 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Putting myself on the firing squad here....but Rudy was the best thing to happen for NYC.

He got rid of all the “filth”, built a thriving city out of a toilet dump. We lived in the Bronx but would never go to NYC because it was dangerous.

Yes, he is socially lib, but he is a bulldog when it comes to crime and fiscal responsibility.

Bloomturd destroyed ALL Rudy has done. They are now back on the streets. The only time I go to NYC is to catch the Amtrak to DC for a Tea Party.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 10:38:14 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

You got that right. This is the result of ObamaCare on its face. Look for more and more groups of citizens to be thrown over the side for a measure of “cost cutting”.

The fools that re-elected him from the taker class will be the first ones under the millstone.


23 posted on 01/01/2013 10:38:20 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Darksheare

How do we do that? We started off crappy and just got worse. I can’t take it anymore. I’m surrounded by idiots!!


24 posted on 01/01/2013 10:40:14 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They have managed to create a gun ban craze so they can hide the real cause and release more of them


25 posted on 01/01/2013 10:42:06 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart)
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To: NoGrayZone

Well, we find the dumbest satire ideas out there and “suggest” them to the NY reps.
NY will be in flames rapidly because the Reps are idiots and often actually do what the satire says.
Once the pitchfork and torch crew arises, we make an active attempt to rebuild while everyone is distracted.


26 posted on 01/01/2013 10:44:30 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: GOPJ
The modern de-institutionalization movement was started in 1963 with Kennedy's Community Mental Health Act. The idea was to replace custodial institutions with group homes, halfway houses etc, and a network of Commnuity Mental Health Centers for consistent and intensive outpatient followup.

States were happy to cut budgets for state hospitals but the CMHC's often never materialized. The Feds having passed a bill with mandates to the states, moved on to other things, and the system was never fully built out as envisioned.

The book One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest by Ken Kesey was inspired by his experience working as a psych orderly at the Menlo Park VA, and came out about the same time as the legislation was being shaped in Congress. They were both expressions of the Zeitgeist and there is no reason to believe that one caused the other.

27 posted on 01/01/2013 10:48:29 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Release the mentally ill without medication or supervision

I remember years ago when my best friend's brother, who suffered from schizophrenia, drove 280 miles from northern Michigan and showed up at my apartment.

He was off his meds and he told me the reason he came down was because he had an appointment with the French embassy in Detroit the next day to discuss expanding Michigan's railway system in order to better service northern Michigan.....

While I had to work the next day, he still spent the night on my couch and was gone by the time I got home from work.

28 posted on 01/01/2013 10:52:37 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: GOPJ

It was called the anti-psychiatry movement and it was spearheaded by shrink R.D. Laing. Hope the crazies roost on Bloomberg’s townhouse.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 10:54:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Darksheare

And when does our crew arrive? Perhaps this is why my boss doesn’t tell me the truth. He already thinks I’m teetering and doesn’t want to push me over.

Someone has to be the 1st. Is it I? How would I gather my army? Do I stay in NY to change it for the better or do I move to a place where I am am amongst my own?


30 posted on 01/01/2013 10:57:48 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I, for one, won’t fire upon you. Rudy did a hell of a job cleaning up the city. During the first year of Bloomberg’s endless and illegal tenure, the homeless were back on the streets sleeping in cardboard boxes.


31 posted on 01/01/2013 10:58:13 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: NoGrayZone

That’s the hard part.
We will likely need “Outside benefactors” to effect a rebuild.
We would also need people still in the state to do the rebuild once the whole libtard mess crashes and burns.


32 posted on 01/01/2013 11:00:37 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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They’ve probably been playing endless loop audio while these crazies were sleeping:

“Get an assault weapon with a huge magazine, go to a school, a theater, a mall, or some crowded place. The voices you have been hearing are in these places. You must kill everyone there to silence the voices. Then you must shoot yourself, too. You will then come back as a new person and you won’t hear the voices anymore. If you don’t kill yourself, you will still hear the voices.”

Loop back to start.


33 posted on 01/01/2013 11:02:19 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: headstamp 2

***You can thank Jerry Rivers for getting this ball rolling in the 70’s with Willow Brook.****

I think it my have began back in 1967 with a little film named TITICUT FOLLIES.


34 posted on 01/01/2013 11:03:45 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
what could possibly go wrong...
35 posted on 01/01/2013 11:06:44 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Build a wall along the west side of the Hudson—a wall without gates. Don’t push for your states to secede. Push for the secession of New York, New Jersey and California from the United States. Send the strays back to those places, except for the few who could pass a test showing that they can mind their own personal business instead of their neighbors’.


36 posted on 01/01/2013 11:19:35 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

California, and its Mental Health Services Act, is part of the “community based services” movement. That is where you serve the mentally ill out in the community integrated with families and other social service clients rather than at a centralized separate spot.

County mental health is now basically a triage/crisis service. They stabilize folks in crisis. That’s it. There is no money for actual treatment. Now treatment is all pharmaceutical anyway, so it is just monitoring of meds. Crisis is generally when someone has “gone off their meds.”

The MHSA is supposed to provide money for “clients” to congregate during the day. Because Health Clinic provide money for additional services, the congregation is often done in connection with health clinics or community resource centers. This can mix family populations with children with the mentally ill.

In CA, the State Dept. of mental health is just about gone. They have “devolved” the problem to the Counties through “realignment.” Smaller counties haven’t the resources to handle it and are overwhelmed. Oversight is maintained through rigid computerized reporting systems and audits.


37 posted on 01/01/2013 11:21:04 AM PST by marsh2
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To: miss marmelstein

The homeless back on the streets seemed to happen overnight once bloomturd took over!

Illegal tenure. Ticks me off. He changed the “law” so he could continue “commanding”.

I can’t see how NY can be made right since it’s been wrong all along.


38 posted on 01/01/2013 11:22:20 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I believe you are correct.


39 posted on 01/01/2013 11:29:40 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: NoGrayZone

Shortly after the creep’s election, I had to walk through the mid 30s on the westside - around Macys & Penn Station. They were all back in the doorways of office buildings. They probably had a celebratory toast to Bloomberg with Ripple and Colt 45.


40 posted on 01/01/2013 11:47:29 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Titicut Follies! I’ve been trying to think of the name of that movie for ages. Made by the great documentarian Frederick Wiseman who also made High School and the beautiful movie Blind.


41 posted on 01/01/2013 11:50:48 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: headstamp 2

Where does all this cost cutting money GO?
I’m thinking it is lining someone’s pockets somewhere.


42 posted on 01/01/2013 11:52:23 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: hinckley buzzard
You're right - the ideas came to fruition 60’s - and were probably written about before that... but the movement came into it's own in the 70’s. One Flew over the Cockoos Nest was to deinstitutionalization what Rachel Carson's ‘Silent Spring’ was to the ecology movement. More than correlation - less than causation.
43 posted on 01/01/2013 11:53:33 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Rudy was the greatest. He turned NYC from a sewer into a place that was habitable. People on the right who live elsewhere didn’t get how smart and strong he was. They wanted someone who was exactly like them to be president - their provincialism and intransigence led to the garbage we have now. In the long run, they were not a lot different from the idiot blacks who voted for 0 because they thought he looked like them.


44 posted on 01/01/2013 11:54:35 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: GOPJ

And the antinuke movement really took off after “China Syndrome”.
Hollyweird and the Enemedia are really the 4th and 5th branches
of government.


45 posted on 01/01/2013 11:58:40 AM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: miss marmelstein
It was called the anti-psychiatry movement and it was spearheaded by shrink R.D. Laing. Hope the crazies roost on Bloomberg’s townhouse.

Roosting on Bloomberg's townhouse? Gonna get hot up there - no big gulps for them...

46 posted on 01/01/2013 12:00:38 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Worked in California.

Write a gun ban bill.

Release a mental patient.

Allow the patient to buy a gun and pass the waiting period.

Patient shoots up the school yard in Stockton, then kills himself.

Ban bill immediately pulled out and passed in a heat of passion.

California gun owners loose their rights.”

‘Adam Lanzas’ everywhere, courtesy of 0bama.


47 posted on 01/01/2013 12:03:27 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Cuomo, Obama, to release more mental patients)...

Does this include patients with blood clots on the brain? Specifically, diplomatic blood clots?

48 posted on 01/01/2013 12:07:20 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: kabumpo
I agree; however, it was up to Rudy to tell us the federal gov has NO business involving itself in social matters.

I do think he would take this fiscal/criminal mess and fix it, just like he did w/ NYC. Zucotti Park WOULD NOT have happened under his jurisdiction.

But just like many of our “pubes”, they feel the need to reach across the aisles.

The only time they should be reaching across the isles is to slap the others upside the head.

49 posted on 01/01/2013 12:07:20 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: GOPJ

I’ll amend that to read “hope the crazies roost on Bloomberg’s front steps.”


50 posted on 01/01/2013 12:11:12 PM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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