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House GOP opposition to fiscal cliff bill grows
Politico ^ | January 1, 2013 | Jake Sherman and Carrie Budoff Brown

Posted on 01/01/2013 12:16:52 PM PST by Hojczyk

An overwhelming number of House Republicans in a party meeting are calling on their leadership to amend the Senate’s bill to avert the fiscal cliff and send it back to the upper chamber, according to several sources in the Tuesday afternoon meeting.

GOP leadership has not made a decision on what to do with the Senate-passed tax hike bill. They are using this meeting to listen to lawmaker concerns. They’ll have another meeting this afternoon, where a decision could come on whether to bring the bill to the floor.

One thing is clear: there is serious disdain among House Republicans for what the Senate did in the middle of the night.

Retiring Rep. Steve LaTourette of Ohio asked House Republicans why the House would “heed the votes of sleep deprived octogenarians,” according to a source in the meeting.

Amending the bill would throw into serious flux the carefully negotiated agreement between Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell and Vice President Joe Biden.

Rep. Spencer Bachus said after exiting the Republican meeting that he expects the House to amend the fiscal cliff deal and send it back to the Senate.

“I would be shocked if this bill didn’t go back to the Senate,” Bachus said.

But there are items that are already causing some concern inside the House Republican Conference. The lack of spending cuts in the legislation seems to be the top concern. Unemployment benefits, which were extended in the Senate bill, are extended for a year with no corresponding spending reductions.

Emerging as a stick point among House Republicans is how McConnell and Biden delayed the sequester — automatic spending cuts. The two-month delay is being viewed by House Republicans as inadequate in that it doesn’t reduce spending immediately.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Alabama; US: Delaware; US: Kentucky; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: alabama; delaware; fiscalcliff; joebiden; kentucky; mitchmcconnell; ohio; senatefarce; senateofcowards; senatetrojanhorse; spencerbachus; stevelatourette

1 posted on 01/01/2013 12:16:59 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Maybe there’s still hope.


2 posted on 01/01/2013 12:21:01 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Hojczyk

“Retiring Rep. Steve LaTourette of Ohio asked House Republicans why the House would “heed the votes of sleep deprived octogenarians,” according to a source in the meeting.”

Who smacked LaTourette & got him to say something intelligent for a change?


3 posted on 01/01/2013 12:21:33 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Hojczyk

They need to invert the numbers, $41 in cuts for every $1 in tax increase. And no tax increase for 2013, they could only start in 2014.


4 posted on 01/01/2013 12:21:37 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

The U.S.A is a dictatorship and the news media are the dictators.

call GOP Congressmen in the House, tell them not to vote for this HORRIBLE bill nor any deal ,there is no cliff as that “cliff” is media lies to force them to agree to tax increases

Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121.


5 posted on 01/01/2013 12:22:55 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Hojczyk

Haha, Plan “B” was so awesome. The GOP was negotiating with themselves before ever getting an amended version of their August bills from the Senate. They do not know how to negotiate with charlatans.


6 posted on 01/01/2013 12:23:29 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Hojczyk

Just heard how Cantor will vote NO on the bill..maybe there is hope for the GOP


7 posted on 01/01/2013 12:23:46 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Hojczyk

Years ago there was a provision in the Unemployment Benefits rules that you did NOT have to take a job that was not comparable (in pay) to the one you lost. Is that still part of the rules?? If it is perhaps the new reality needs to be acknowledged that a lot of those good paying union and middle managment jobs are NEVER coming back, at least not any time soon. The rules could then be rewritten to say that after a certain time limit, one should take a job that pays 80% or some other amount of what one earned previously.


8 posted on 01/01/2013 12:26:55 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Hojczyk

“”” Unemployment benefits, which were extended in the Senate bill, are extended for a year with no corresponding spending reductions.””””

Just call it what it is, WELFARE.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 12:28:47 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
"Maybe there’s still hope."

That members of the 'GOP' have cajones?

10 posted on 01/01/2013 12:34:11 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: shelterguy; All

How long can someone stay on unemployment now? Is it still 99 weeks? How is that done - with federal monies?


11 posted on 01/01/2013 12:38:33 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Hojczyk

I’ll believe it when it’s defeated.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 12:40:09 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Hojczyk
People are dropping out of the Republican party because of what the GOPe has done in disregarding/damaging the party platform.

If they were brave enough to disrespect you once then you better believe they'll be brave enough to do it again. Unknown quotes 

You can't force a person to show you respect, but you can refuse to be disrespected!  Unknown quotes 

13 posted on 01/01/2013 12:41:48 PM PST by MamaDearest (Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants. William Penn)
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To: Girlene

I think now, most states have an initial period of 26 weeks if it’s a layoff job loss. Then Federal funded extensions of up to a total of 99 weeks are available IF the Feds fund and authorize the extensions and the State agrees.


14 posted on 01/01/2013 12:45:09 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Hojczyk

The bill extends the unemployment extension for a FULL YEAR.


15 posted on 01/01/2013 12:47:07 PM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: Hojczyk

-— Amending the bill would throw into serious flux the carefully negotiated agreement -—

Boo freakin hoo.


16 posted on 01/01/2013 12:47:07 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Hojczyk

Hope is all we have. Maybe a new party will come out of this. These elected officials think they are doing a service by being in Congress. I wish every ballot had to have -” none of the above” as a countable vote.


17 posted on 01/01/2013 12:47:10 PM PST by Ramonne
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To: Hojczyk

“Amending the bill would throw into serious flux the carefully negotiated agreement between Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell and Vice President Joe Biden. “

Oh, what a shame, it would be so much better to throw the US Public off a cliff, under the bus, and into hell, than mess with the; carefully negotiated agreement between Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell and Vice President Joe Biden.

< /sarcasm>


18 posted on 01/01/2013 12:47:28 PM PST by Matthew10 (spare the horsewhip, spoil the congressman Proverbs 32:7)
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To: Hojczyk

If the house caves on this they better enjoy their short stay in Washington. Dems own it. Period.


19 posted on 01/01/2013 12:48:05 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

If a RINO like Cantor is voting no you can believe it has no chance to pass. I watch CSPAN this morning and it looked like most reps were agains’t it. Even some Dems.


20 posted on 01/01/2013 12:50:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: aimhigh

Lay off giving out unemployment to everyone, but BRING BACK AMERICAN JOBS.

What the heck.

Work.

What good does it do to send jobs elsewhere, if we’re supporting people here?

Stop it. Bring back American jobs.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 12:51:11 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Dems hate it because they wanted to raise taxes for those making 250K(Apparently to a progressive turd, if you make 250K your rich) I really hope this bill fails miserably..it doesn’t cut spending, not one single penny..all it does is raise taxes


22 posted on 01/01/2013 12:53:37 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I believe this thing will crash & burn.


23 posted on 01/01/2013 12:54:23 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Hojczyk

“One thing is clear: there is serious disdain among House Republicans for what the Senate did in the middle of the night.”

Cool - reject it and send the Senate their own bill - and Zero can choke on that cheesey “victory” speech he just gave.


24 posted on 01/01/2013 12:57:34 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Hojczyk
Cantor came out against the senate bill. Should attach tax cuts for everybody amendment and tell Obama he is to blame for middle class tax hikes if he doesn't sign it.
25 posted on 01/01/2013 12:58:53 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Outlawing guns because of Adam Lanza would be like outlawing free speech because of Bill Maher.")
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To: Hojczyk

Maybe he can go talk to Rep Tom Cole who said a deal is a deal and it wouldn’t be fair to the Senate. I’m sure that’s the heartbeat of his constituency - let’s be fair to the Senate. Yes, let’s be fair to the Harry Reid’s Senate!


26 posted on 01/01/2013 12:59:43 PM PST by RushingWater
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To: King_Corey

They should do that and “compromise” in the middle, $20 in Cuts for $2 in Tax Increases.

I could live with that as long as it included the Obamacare Taxes as well.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 1:03:26 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I don't Trust a Government that doesn't Trust me. How about you Comrade?)
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To: magna carta

I hope your right


28 posted on 01/01/2013 1:05:14 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Hojczyk

There will be a PR price to pay, no matter what.
There will be a price to pay at the ballot box, too.

Republicans need to remember that the PRIMARY comes BEFORE the General, and they stand to lose more by ticking off their base!

Also? Get this nasty stuff out of the way NOW! Do not “kick the can down the road” again, only to have it pop up right before the next election!

And, Use the “Debt Limit” fight to further cut spending.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 1:20:40 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: I am Richard Brandon

I’m sure Bachmann has the “cajones” to stand up to this. Hopefully, she can inspire the others.


30 posted on 01/01/2013 1:28:14 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Navy Patriot

Thanks. That’s what I thought. Wonder how long you have to be re-employed to get back into the 99 week deal if you are laid off again.


31 posted on 01/01/2013 1:44:53 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Kickass Conservative

I’d say ObamaCare is a tax, so no ObamaCare ever!


32 posted on 01/01/2013 2:02:47 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Hojczyk.
The lack of spending cuts in the legislation seems to be the top concern. Unemployment benefits, which were extended in the Senate bill, are extended for a year with no corresponding spending reductions. Emerging as a stick point among House Republicans is how McConnell and Biden delayed the sequester -- automatic spending cuts. The two-month delay is being viewed by House Republicans as inadequate in that it doesn’t reduce spending immediately.

33 posted on 01/01/2013 2:07:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Hojczyk

If they don’t do anything with it by the 3rd(?) when the new Congress is seated, isn’t all of this pretty much ‘erased’ anyway?


34 posted on 01/01/2013 3:00:47 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
-— Amending the bill would throw into serious flux the carefully negotiated agreement -—

Boo freakin hoo.

The bill sent over from the Senate is a totally dismantled House bill, only using the bill number, since the Constitution requires all expenditures to initiate in the House. Someone has the gaul to threaten against CHANGING BACK to the original bills contents? That's sportin' a pair of ten-pounders if I've ever heard of one.

35 posted on 01/01/2013 3:58:26 PM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Girlene
Wonder how long you have to be re-employed to get back into the 99 week deal if you are laid off again.

In CA, the unemployment comp period already approved just keeps running, you just don't get a check in the weeks when you new job income exceeds your weekly unemployment amount.

If you are laid off again you immediately get your weekly check without the one week waiting period on the original claim. (This helps honest job seekers who will take any work offered including temp jobs.)

When the approved period runs out, you can apply to the state to extend your claim for another approved period up to 99 weeks total, if the Feds are funding and the state agrees to that funding.

36 posted on 01/01/2013 4:34:15 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Hojczyk

Let us go over the cliff. I have a new calculation. I know longer worry about what is best for the economy. I just measure who suffers the most.

The cliff will hurt me but it seems to hurt the liberal states, and the wind, ethanol, and movie industries the hardest.

We have lost the debate. If the rich east/west coast libs want taxes let’s give it to them good and hard. Quit bailing out the liberal states with targeted deductions and an escape form the AMT.

Only agree to taxes with no loopholes.


37 posted on 01/01/2013 4:36:31 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Navy Patriot

Wow. Doesn’t sound like there’s much incentive to work for long if you can manage to get by on unemployment....then there’s always food stamps which are easier to get now. If you are young, unemployed, and can manage to live at home or share housing with other unemployed people, you could get by quite easily on other peoples money I would think.

Thanks for the info.


38 posted on 01/02/2013 6:08:51 AM PST by Girlene
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