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Intel to Challenge Cable and Offer Individual Channels
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Posted on 01/02/2013 5:02:23 AM PST by chopperman

Intel is reportedly on the cusp of delivering something that consumers around the world have been wanting for a long, long time.

Kelly Clay at Forbes reports Intel is going to blow up the cable industry with its own set-top box and an unbundled cable service.

Clay says Intel is planning to deliver cable content to any device with an Internet connection. And instead of having to pay $80 a month for two hundred channels you don't want, you'll be able to subscribe to specific channels of your choosing.

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KEYWORDS: cable; hdtv; individualchannels; intel
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1 posted on 01/02/2013 5:02:34 AM PST by chopperman
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To: chopperman

Sweeet. So long obama-loving Comcast.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 5:05:57 AM PST by jersey117
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To: chopperman

I agree, I get more than 100 channels and watch about 10 of them total.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 5:06:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chopperman

The Paradigm Shift we have been waiting for!


4 posted on 01/02/2013 5:08:10 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: chopperman

The Paradigm Shift we have been waiting for!


5 posted on 01/02/2013 5:08:20 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; aft_lizard; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; american colleen; ...

Of possible interest to the “HDTV ping list” members.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 5:11:00 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: chopperman

This is all I’d ever want for TV. All the science channels, don’t care for movie channels or news networks, and as long as I could watch hockey, I’m good to go.

I hope Intel snatches up a huge swath of the TV market immediately.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 5:12:49 AM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: chopperman

One hurdle a cable company could erect could be that if you want broadband from a Comcast, Brighthouse, etc, you’ll have to subscribe to a cable package.


10 posted on 01/02/2013 5:13:16 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: chopperman

Not so fast.....excerpt from the article:

We’ve been skeptical of Intel’s ability to make a dent in the TV market. If it somehow manages to deliver this unbundled channel option, we’re more optimistic Intel could have success.

Before anyone gets too excited, Janko Roettgers at GigaOm is skeptical it happens. Roettgers knows the TV business very well.

The reason its unlikely to happen is that content companies don’t really want to see cable blown up. It’s been very good to them.

Last summer, Peter Kafka at All Things D poured cold water on the idea of Intel unbundling. Not only is going to be hard to make it happen, it’s unclear if it would even save money for cable subscribers:

Those bundles are core to today’s TV ecosystem. And the TV guys insist that consumers really don’t want “a la carte” programming, because if they do, the channels/shows they like today will end up costing much, much more.

Disney, for instance, charges TV distributors about $5 for every subscriber that gets ESPN. And, by some estimates, only about 25 percent of cable customers actually watch ESPN on a regular basis. So if you unbundled ESPN, the per-subscriber cost might shoot up to $20 or more, to account for the 75 percent drop in its customer base


11 posted on 01/02/2013 5:14:07 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: chopperman

Legislation to ban a la cart programming and thereby squash Intel’s efforts will be introduced on the Senate floor in 3...2...1...


12 posted on 01/02/2013 5:19:00 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: chopperman
Clay says Intel is planning to deliver cable content to any device with an Internet connection.

For the technically ignorant among us, how do you get your T.V.s to get internet connected? We have 4 T.V.s and I would not want to watch the World Series on my 19" monitor.

13 posted on 01/02/2013 5:19:45 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: chopperman

‘bout damned time somebody did this. We’ve been held captive by the cable gougers for far too long.

(I speak as a member of the general American public. I have no TV and don’t watch it.)

Next up, let’s move towards sanity in the cellular phone industry. If the Europeans can get quality service at 25% of what we pay, so can we.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 5:20:35 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: chopperman

Remember what all the nay sayer cell phone carriers and computet companies said about Apple when word was out about the 1st iPhone. Let’s see, HP, Verizon, Palm, Dell, Sprint, ..... I like this idea and I hope it breaks the backbone of the cable companies! I currently do not have any cable tv, I have ATT uverse Internet and I stream movies from Netflix and Hulu and I use a HDTV antenna to get free local signals


15 posted on 01/02/2013 5:25:45 AM PST by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: chopperman

If there was anything left on TV worth watching, I’d be ecstatic.

Still, if it’s something to move the cable generation toward ad-free streaming, like Netflix or Amazon Instant Video, I’m all for it. I hope at some point they’ll begin to realize the waste of having to sit through truckloads of useless commercials.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 5:27:37 AM PST by Cato in PA (May America reap the putrid fruit of the demon seed it's sown.)
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To: upchuck
If the Europeans can get quality service at 25% of what we pay, so can we.

How do they manage that?

17 posted on 01/02/2013 5:31:36 AM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: newfreep
The reason its unlikely to happen is that content companies don’t really want to see cable blown up. It’s been very good to them.

That's one good reason. The present structure is welfare for a lot of bad actors, writers, directors, producers, etc. They will not want to have to actually compete.

Another roadblock Intel will likely encounter will be gov't. Specifically, if the left sees this new, unbundled structure as cutting into their voice, they will try to crush it. And they will see it as cutting into their voice. Where has leftist programming ever succeeded in an open market? People just don't want it.

18 posted on 01/02/2013 5:31:45 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: missnry

My paradigm shift was in 1997, when I dumped TV altogether. It was one of the few smart things I’ve ever done. It was, frankly, life changing.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 5:34:09 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: upchuck

Thank you Chuck!

“Next up, let’s move towards sanity in the cellular phone industry. If the Europeans can get quality service at 25% of what we pay, so can we.”

What we put up with for cell phone service in this country SUCKS!!!


20 posted on 01/02/2013 5:34:31 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: Graybeard58

For the technically ignorant among us, how do you get your T.V.s to get internet connected?


In my home, we only have internet. I plug my 46” set directly to the htmi output of the video card on my desktop computer. We then use the 46” set for youtube video or computer games. I sometimes use it as my computer monitor too.

I think there are more direct ways to do it now, but that is what works for us.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 5:38:20 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: newfreep
Disney, for instance, charges TV distributors about $5 for every subscriber that gets ESPN. And, by some estimates, only about 25 percent of cable customers actually watch ESPN on a regular basis. So if you unbundled ESPN, the per-subscriber cost might shoot up to $20 or more, to account for the 75 percent drop in its customer base

Not to mention that some channels won't get enough subscribers making them go belly up. Of couse, if they could, that would lead to more profiling which this admin seems to be geared toward. Subscribe to FOX and the Outdoors Channel you're a white gun grabber.

22 posted on 01/02/2013 5:38:50 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Graybeard58

Connect your TV directly to a computer that has internet access. Some TV’s have wifi built in that will connect directly to the internet and to various on line video sources such as Netflix, ect. I think you’ll more large screen TV’s with home theater PC’s built in complete with wireless key board and mice.

I use a small, quiet “shoe box” intel PC with my 32 inch wide screen and while I have FIOS, I also have internet connected to my TV PC and I watch Netflix and others. The PC also lest me edit my DSLR photos right up on a 32 inch screen with amazing results. Talk about a convergence machine!

If you have a decent laptop, you can connect the lap top’s video out put to your TV and connect the laptop to the internet. Even modern “cheapy” laptops(amd apu’s and intel i3’s) can get you good streaming HD signals for your TV; playing games is another issue.(however amd a10 series are said to give i5 intel boxes a run for their money)


23 posted on 01/02/2013 5:41:34 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: GOPsterinMA
What we put up with for cell phone service in this country SUCKS!!!

I agree. I've been to some third world countries that had better service and plans than the US. I refused to sign up for any two year commitment.

Even some of the countries like Japan and Korea all you had to do was keep the service for one month and you can cancel anytime after that.

24 posted on 01/02/2013 5:47:44 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Graybeard58
The article says : Kelly Clay at Forbes reports Intel is going to blow up the cable industry with its own set-top box and an unbundled cable service.

The set-top-box is the thing the cable company gives you. Your remote tells the set-top-box what channel to tune to. Intel's box would connect to your Internet on one end, and your TV would connect to it.

25 posted on 01/02/2013 5:53:43 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: cuban leaf

Most recent TVs have ethernet data ports. Plug your home router into the ethernet port on the TV. Voila.


26 posted on 01/02/2013 5:54:24 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Graybeard58
I have a roku box. Cost $79 at a bazillion stores anywhere in the country. Love it.

Got Netflix and HuluPlus.

I only watch 2 things on network tv. Jeopardy and Big bang theory. Wife likes Castle. That's it. Oh. METV. Memory (something TV) Nostalgia programming. Old tv shows from the 50's and 60's wife watches that a lot.

I love the roku. Lots of choices though their better stuff is dvd only, netflix that is.

Heck if netflix can do it, Intel which has MUCH more powerful resources to draw on can certainly do it. Technologically that is. Dunno about channel contracts and the like. Or govt intervention. We all know how good govt is in intervening in a good thing.

27 posted on 01/02/2013 5:57:02 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: chopperman

Comcast cable will retaliate ans stifle INTEL by limiting how many gigabytes you can download each month.

Shame because Comcast has blazing hot speed where I am— 24mbps. The best you can get with (ATT) DSL here is 6mbps and for my situation I cannot get above 1.2mbps on a their low tier 1.5mbps connection. My house won’t take in their DSL connections that are rated 3 and 6 mbps. I’m pissed because I would love to play them against each other, which I do but not as effectively as I could if I could get DSL coming in at 4 or 6mbps


28 posted on 01/02/2013 6:00:46 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Graybeard58

You buy a roku or a similar box that connects from your home internet to your TV. Or use your Wii or Playstation.


29 posted on 01/02/2013 6:03:07 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: IamConservative

This won’t last long. Cellular companies will roll out 5g services and have speeds that crush cable in the next few years. They will roll it out quickly as well.


30 posted on 01/02/2013 6:05:55 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: USAF80

“I agree. I’ve been to some third world countries that had better service and plans than the US. I refused to sign up for any two year commitment.”

I’ve been to Mexico several times (3rd world); never had connection problems.

I’ve been to Western and Southern Europe several times; never had connection problems.

In both cases, I bought a prepaid SIM card, popped it in my (unlocked) phone and done.

Here? Where do I begin? And I live in a fairly large metro area (Boston). Although I’ve been using prepaid here for a while too. Signing a contract is for fools; I’ll buy my own phone and in most cases sell it at a profit (or break even) when I want or need to get something better or newer.


31 posted on 01/02/2013 6:07:24 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: jersey117

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve been wanting this for a long time...

NEVER wanted to pay for The Golf Channel, BET, MTV, Hip-HopTV, PMSDNC or any other ridiculous station.

Bust ‘em up, and bust ‘em out.


32 posted on 01/02/2013 6:11:35 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: chopperman

McCain was going to push for ala carte cable before he ran for president in 2008.

The one useful idea he ever had, and he dropped it.

==


33 posted on 01/02/2013 6:27:14 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Graybeard58
"For the technically ignorant among us, how do you get your T.V.s to get internet connected?"

Roku

34 posted on 01/02/2013 6:33:16 AM PST by magellan
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To: cuban leaf

Yep this issue is moot when you haven’t bothered wasting time watching an assorted parade of fools march across the small screen in around 30 years. Just the peace in your home gained from removing the idiot box from your home is worth the um...loss of missing the continual freak show. And to imagine people pay for this visual refuse.


35 posted on 01/02/2013 6:41:21 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: chopperman

Good. This will force the media to tailor their programming more to what the public wants, rather than what they want to promote.


36 posted on 01/02/2013 6:44:49 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: newfreep

“So if you unbundled ESPN, the per-subscriber cost might shoot up to $20 or more, to account for the 75 percent drop in its customer base”

They say that like it’s a bad thing. Socialism isn’t good for governments, or for cable channels. If ESPN had to compete in a freer market, they would either deliver a better product, lower their prices, or lose out to competition that could do one of those things. Either way you slice it, consumers win.


37 posted on 01/02/2013 6:48:58 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: chopperman
This will get some attention at Cupertino. This is Intel trying to get out in front of AppleTV when it comes to pre-buying content. However, this dude has it wrong.

"Last summer, Peter Kafka at All Things D poured cold water on the idea of Intel unbundling. Not only is going to be hard to make it happen, it’s unclear if it would even save money for cable subscribers:

Those bundles are core to today’s TV ecosystem. And the TV guys insist that consumers really don’t want “a la carte” programming, because if they do, the channels/shows they like today will end up costing much, much more.

Disney, for instance, charges TV distributors about $5 for every subscriber that gets ESPN. And, by some estimates, only about 25 percent of cable customers actually watch ESPN on a regular basis. So if you unbundled ESPN, the per-subscriber cost might shoot up to $20 or more, to account for the 75 percent drop in its customer base"

So what if it did? But it won't. What will happen is, ESPN/Dizzney will have to scale back what they pay the leagues -- and that will be interesting.

Why? Because the Convergence is here -- internet provider speeds to home like 24 mips, like dennis has, deliver 1040p on demand to enough of an American base now to justify Intel and Apple selling by single-channel (or even single-show) with internet-abled settop boxes.

Game over for dinosaur buy-the-package-or-die cable, and potential big trouble for the dumbnets like Dizzney and Viacom...

38 posted on 01/02/2013 6:53:55 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: Graybeard58

AppleTV. $99, just plug it into HDTV. Get Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, iTunes, Vimeo, and stream stuff from my PC. Love it.


39 posted on 01/02/2013 6:58:53 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: chopperman

Boo yah! This is great, if it happens. We just purchased a Roku player for each set, so I assume with those and then perhaps subscribing to ESPN through this new product, we would be happy with our TV channel choices.

Even if this doesn’t happen, we are telling Cox Cable good-bye. We are tired of paying a lot of money for channels we don’t watch and don’t even want on our list. I hope this means the monopoly on service that cable companies have (courtesy of local politicians) will finally crumble. Good riddance!


40 posted on 01/02/2013 6:59:36 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Tonytitan

Won’t take legislation. Comcast, CBS Viacom and all the other owners of cable nets will just refuse to do business with Intel on an a la carte basis.


41 posted on 01/02/2013 7:03:33 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Graybeard58

WD Live TV has wi-fi. It can connect your TV to Netflix, etc. (if you have a subscription), and to USB hard drives and networked computers.

I use it to view standalone video files via USB drive(s) and NAS wi-fi hard drive. WD Live TV accepts most common video formats.

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/homeentertainment/mediaplayers/


42 posted on 01/02/2013 7:07:45 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: chopperman

This is the future of home entertainment/information...ISP’s will dominate the scene.


43 posted on 01/02/2013 7:08:00 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: newfreep
So if you unbundled ESPN, the per-subscriber cost might shoot up to $20 or more, to account for the 75 percent drop in its customer base
That's known as the free market. If a broadcaster/company like ESPN can't make it based solely on its subscribers (and advertisers), then bye-bye.
44 posted on 01/02/2013 7:18:23 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Boogieman
This will force the media to tailor their programming more to what the public wants ...
You mean we don't want UMPTEEN different shows of:Who knew?
45 posted on 01/02/2013 7:34:36 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

You forgot, courtesy of IFC, “Watching Beards Grow”.


46 posted on 01/02/2013 7:42:05 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Graybeard58
For the technically ignorant among us, how do you get your T.V.s to get internet connected? We have 4 T.V.s and I would not want to watch the World Series on my 19" monitor.

A lot of people are pointing you to streaming servers like Roku or Apple TV. They are great but you mention sports. You won't get that through these devices. They stream Netflix, Hulu Plus, HBO Go, stuff like that. Lots of archived content like movies and previously aired TV shows on demand but not live TV.

I'm assuming you don't have or want cable so you truly want to get over-the-air live programming but without cable. For local channels you can simply hook up an HDTV with an antenna and pull the local HD channels directly, no cable and no internet required. It's digital so quality will be either as good as you'll get wired or no signal at all; perfect or nothing. And it's free. You can do the same thing with a PC if you put in a HD video capture card. Then you can run the HDMI output directly to a HDTV (most have HDMI inputs).

It's hard to get live non-local channels over the internet. I saw a company called Aereo that apparently has a server room in New York City with a bunch of capture cards wired up to HD antennas and they are pulling the live signal off the air and streaming it for a fee. They appear to be getting sued to death by all the networks. Their defense for this at the moment seems to be to limit their service to NYC only, so basically they only convert live over-the-air local NYC channels to internet streams within the NYC itself (i.e. where people can get them for free directly with an antenna). So here it is just a convenience thing for people in New York City who want to watch already free New York City local channels on an Ipad instead of a TV. And still they are getting sued. If they win some cases, maybe they'll expand. In the meantime third party streaming of live TV is probably an area where the law will need to get settled.

47 posted on 01/02/2013 7:42:50 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: chopperman

They did not mention bandwidth requirements. I wonder how fast of an internet connection is required to watch an uninterrupted stream per channel? I’d be willing to bet that a standard 3 meg DSL connection would be overloaded with three TVs on watching different channels.


48 posted on 01/02/2013 7:43:00 AM PST by soycd
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To: chopperman

Which channels are actually going to agree to that? The big dogs love their bundling. We’ll have to see what actually comes out.


49 posted on 01/02/2013 7:48:49 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Graybeard58

Get a ROKU box


50 posted on 01/02/2013 7:50:09 AM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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