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To: SeekAndFind

I’m scratching my head a little here. I’m sure in the minority, but on the tax side alone... the republicans did pretty well.

The temporary Bush tax cuts are now permanent. The rich got redefined from $250K to $450K. And yes, their taxes went up — to Clinton era levels. They still are much lower than they were during the Reagan years.

The payroll tax cut (which was a terrible idea to begin with, since it funded SS from general tax receipts, which basically meant the rich were funding the difference) went away.

This is by no means perfect. And we got screwed on the spending side (for now). But on the tax side, given the outcome of the election, I don’t see how we could have done much better.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 8:21:48 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

RE: And we got screwed on the spending side (for now)

That’s what they ALWAYS say. This problem has been there from as far as I can remember and it is NEVER solved and always gets worse regardless of who is in charge. Which is to say, we get SCREWED ALL THE TIME.

Remember Reagan’s agreement to raise some taxes in exchange for spending decreases? DIDN’T HAPPEN.

Remember Papa Bush’s reneging om his “Read My Lips, No New Taxes” pledge in exchange for huge spending decreases? DIDN’T HAPPEN.

Did Bush Jr. do anything to spending? Yes he did — HE INCREASED IT.

I don’t see how the words “for now” won’t be similar to Lucy pulling the football out of Charlie Brown.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 8:30:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: bigdaddy45

I’m scratching my head a little here. I’m sure in the minority, but on the tax side alone... the republicans did pretty well.

The temporary Bush tax cuts are now permanent. The rich got redefined from $250K to $450K. And yes, their taxes went up — to Clinton era levels. They still are much lower than they were during the Reagan years.

The payroll tax cut (which was a terrible idea to begin with, since it funded SS from general tax receipts, which basically meant the rich were funding the difference) went away.

This is by no means perfect. And we got screwed on the spending side (for now). But on the tax side, given the outcome of the election, I don’t see how we could have done much better.””

Agreed. With the kenyan vulture and his allies in control of the senate, supreme court, and the executive branch, I am surprised we got this much. I don’t think most people understand the the head of the snake and his rat party hold most of the aces in this game of rob the taxpayer. The kenyan maggot and his allies won/stole most of the election and we simply stand and take it. Our property and lives belong to them and short of physical conflict that is what remains.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 9:00:08 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: bigdaddy45

You take your level headed logic and reason right out of here. This is no place for sound thinking.

Really though, with Democrats in charge of the Seante and the White House, I’m not sure what people expected. The concession from Obama to give up on the $250k limit and increase it to $400k was a direct violation of one of his campaign promises to be used against him, and the GOP will have more leverage when the debt ceiling legislation comes aorund. This is far from over.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 9:01:03 AM PST by gopher300
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To: bigdaddy45

We got screwed on the spending side, yes, in exchange for what? Rearranging taxation deck chairs on the Titanic. Spending is all that matters! Because they’re gonna tax us anyway, duh! They own the freaking money supply. All this compromise does is ensure the extra whatever tax hikes on the books will allow them to spend that much more on top of all the other money we don’t have.

I’m not saying the tax cut fights of the last few decades were meaningless. But they always should be viewers as means to an end, the end being smaller government. Instead we got backed into defending tax cuts as the best way to raise revenue. And we wonder why Democrats beat the hell out if us. We are the Stupid Party.


22 posted on 01/02/2013 10:23:10 AM PST by Tublecane
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