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Who Goes to Prison Due to Gun Control?
blog.independent.org ^ | 21 December, 2012 | Anthony Gregory

Posted on 01/02/2013 8:33:34 AM PST by marktwain

Somehow, left-liberals have associated the cause of gun rights with white racism, when if anything it is gun control that has a racist legacy. In the United States, early gun laws targeted recently freed blacks, and open carry first became banned in California under Governor Ronald Reagan to disarm groups like the Black Panthers. Today, blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately subjected to humiliating stop-and-frisk searches in the name of gun control.

Perhaps the most telling data concerns the racial makeup of who goes to prison for gun violations. According to the U.S. Sentencing Commission, for Fiscal Year 2011, 49.6% of those sentenced to federal incarceration with a primary offense of firearms violations were black, 20.6% were Hispanic, and only 27.5% were white.

This is how gun laws actually work—those caught violating them go to prison. For the mere act of owning an illegal weapon—not necessarily for using it, not for threatening anyone with it, not for being irresponsible with it—people who have harmed no one are locked up in prison for years at a time. As with the rest of the criminal justice system, particularly the war on drugs, these laws disproportionately harm the poor and minorities. That is the inescapable reality of gun control.

It makes sense that blacks and others living in the inner city would rely more on private, illegal guns for self-defense. The police are unreliable at best in many of these communities. It also makes sense that minorities would be disproportionately hurt by these laws, because so many of the dynamics in play are the same as with the drug war—people are being punished for what they own, rather than what they have done to others; it is easier for police to go after those in poor neighborhoods than to search middle-class folks in nice neighborhoods; jurors approved by prosecutors tend to believe police testimony over the word of minority defendants; prosecutors tend to use discretion in possession crime cases that fall more painfully on the disenfranchised; public defenders offer inadequate services for those loads of court-appointed clients, and so forth.

Left-liberals will respond that the racist implementation of gun laws is a problem independent of firearms policy, that we need stricter laws against guns and we’ll deal with inequity in prosecution and sentencing separately. But rarely do they make the same point with drug policy. Progressives know that in origin and in practice, drug policy is unmistakably racist. There is no way to easily purge the system of its racist elements—the problems are too entrenched. Yet these people somehow don’t fully grasp that this is just as unavoidably true as it concerns gun control policy.

When it comes to restricting firearms, liberals have an amazing ability to ignore the hard truth of what they are advocating—putting more people in cages. That is what gun control is. Sometimes it almost seems like progressives are completely blind to this obvious reality—that they understand the problems with drug laws, that they see laws like Three Strikes unfairly punish people for minor property crimes, that they detect a problem with the death penalty even for convicted murderers, that they know that for the whole range of criminal offenses, the state tends to go overboard in dealing with the accused. Except for gun control! On this, we can expect equity, fairness, and efficiency! In truth, putting people in cages won’t make a dent in criminal gun ownership, just as having a half million people behind bars for drug offenses has hardly stemmed the availability of illicit drugs. But that’s a whole other set of questions.

There are a hundred reasons why I oppose gun control. But here is one that lefties, if they are to be consistent at all, need to take to heart: More gun laws mean more peaceful people, disproportionately young black and brown men, who have committed no violence against anyone, being locked up in cells. That might make you feel safer. But it makes me feel like I live in a mockery of a free, humane society.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; prison; racism; secondamendment
Gun control is all about controlling the "little people". It never applies to the ruling elite.
1 posted on 01/02/2013 8:33:37 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

LMAO.

Blacks are in jail disproportionately for breaking gun laws because they are so busty killing each other with them.

It makes no sense to beat around the Bush on why they are there.

Anybody keeping up with who is dying and who is shooting in Detroit and Chicago?

I rest my case.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 8:41:14 AM PST by Venturer
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To: marktwain
“Today, blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately subjected to humiliating stop-and-frisk searches in the name of gun control”

I don't know, maybe it's because blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately involved in crime.
Maybe it's because blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately more likely use weapons in those crimes.

3 posted on 01/02/2013 8:42:58 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: marktwain

House candidate arrested for gun at airport dropping out (JJJ’s seat)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2972991/posts

he’ll be in prison for sure!/ sarc


4 posted on 01/02/2013 8:43:21 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Tupelo

You remind me somewhat of the German who said (about the Nazis): “First they came for the Jews, and I didn’t say anything,...,” etc. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out.

If the police can frisk blacks and Hispanics, then they can frisk you and me.

Is that your idea of Constitutional liberty?

It is not mine.

In America, gun laws historically have been aimed primarily at minorities.

This is why I am bewildered that a white-hating state like Hawaii volunteers to stay on the Democrat plantation by — among many other things — keeping draconian gun restrictions on the books.

They are depriving their own beloved “browns” from defending themselves.

Amazingly effective propagandizing on the part of the Left.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 8:50:53 AM PST by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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If the police can frisk blacks and Hispanics, then they can frisk you and me.

What do you think the TSA is all about?

6 posted on 01/02/2013 9:02:23 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Venturer

Thanks to Pookie18 - Today’s Toons 1/2/2013

7 posted on 01/02/2013 9:12:27 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: marktwain
For the mere act of owning an illegal weapon—not necessarily for using it, not for threatening anyone with it, not for being irresponsible with it—people who have harmed no one are locked up in prison for years at a time.

Some might argue that owning an illegal weapon is "being irresponsible".

As with the rest of the criminal justice system, particularly the war on drugs, these laws disproportionately harm the poor and minorities.

If a law is applied differently to poor and minorities then I agree. If the law "hurts" poor and minorities because they break it more often, then I don't.

If someone poor goes to jail because he can't get a good lawyer and a piece of scum like David Gregory gets nothing because he's rich and famous then, yes, I sympathize.

These are arguments to make legal gun ownership less onerous. If you can't legally buy a gun because your city is too restrictive, that's wrong and should be fixed. If you can't buy a gun because you're a convicted felon, then that one is on you. You won't get a lot of people signing up to let felons carry guns.

8 posted on 01/02/2013 9:14:28 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: marktwain

The criminals who don’t register their guns with be unscathed by any laws.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 9:38:08 AM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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Some might argue that owning an illegal weapon is "being irresponsible".

Who are the "some" making that argument? Please ... be specific.

10 posted on 01/02/2013 9:49:13 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: marktwain
For the mere act of owning an illegal weapon—not necessarily for using it, not for threatening anyone with it, not for being irresponsible with it—people who have harmed no one are locked up in prison for years at a time.

Strawman argument.

Previously convicted felons go to prison for a long time for being in possession of a weapon. How many of the those in prison for violating gun laws have been sent to prison because they were previously convicted felons found with guns ... and what percentage of those are non-white?

The statistics cited in the article are meaningless without context. Tell me the ethnic breakdown for people who are in prison for gun violations other than being a felon in possession of a firearm and then, maybe, we can talk about racism.

11 posted on 01/02/2013 10:43:17 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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