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Krauthammer: Fiscal-Cliff Bill Represents ‘Rout’ for Democrats (Video at link)
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Posted on 01/02/2013 8:37:48 AM PST by tsowellfan

Democrats came out on top big-time in the fiscal-cliff bill approved by the House Tuesday, says conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer.

Congress agreed to increase taxes on individuals with annual income of $400,000 in exchange for little in the way of spending cuts.

“It’s a complete rout by the Democrats,” Krauthammer told Fox News. “Tonight is one of the low points that Republicans have had...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; house

1 posted on 01/02/2013 8:37:57 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Video: Krauthammer: With “Fiscal Cliff” Deal, Obama has Split the GOP and Seized Control Of Washington

http://youtu.be/S3az—3l5jo


2 posted on 01/02/2013 8:39:13 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

duh


3 posted on 01/02/2013 8:39:34 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
You would think. Unfortunately there are a few Boehner apologists who claimed that Boehner had the democrats over a barrel.
4 posted on 01/02/2013 8:41:23 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

If you’d like to agree that my congressman did the right thing by voting no, there’s a poll here.

http://www.mlive.com/opinion/jackson/index.ssf/2013/01/question_of_the_day_with_poll_5.html


5 posted on 01/02/2013 8:41:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: tsowellfan

I’m surprised that Krauthammer isn’t celebrating. After all, he was one of Obama’s biggest cheerleaders in 2008. Not a conservative. A Beltway hack.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 8:42:02 AM PST by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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To: tsowellfan

The erudite, ultimate beltway insider speaks. No s*&t, Sherlock.


7 posted on 01/02/2013 8:42:08 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: tsowellfan

We are now in a full stall and spin. To recover, we must go full “stick down and opposite rudder” and hope we have enough altitude to pull out.

“Stick down and opposite rudder” means get rid of the Republican party.

Totally.

Wipe them out.

Burn the remains.

And then take a bodacious Obama on the ashes.

I no longer want to hear - nor will I speak of - any dim-bulb-crat or repulsican party member.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 8:44:49 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: All

9 posted on 01/02/2013 8:49:30 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan
I am getting real tired of Charles Krauthammer telling me how the left is kicking the rights ass.
I know they have won every battle for the past 10 years, I am just getting tired of Mr Krauthammer telling me.
10 posted on 01/02/2013 8:52:56 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Tupelo

It was a BIG victory for the Republicans last night :)

Feel better?


11 posted on 01/02/2013 8:55:21 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Da Coyote

“We are now in a full stall and spin. To recover, we must go full “stick down and opposite rudder” and hope we have enough altitude to pull out.”

Out of airspeed (except for straight down), altitude, and ideas — maybe it’s just time for conservatives to bail out.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 9:09:17 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: tsowellfan
Why doesn't Krauthammer go the final yard and call for Boehner's replacement?

After all these Republican losses, why would they blindly put Boehner back in the Speaker's chair for another two years?

That would be the definition of madness.

-PJ

13 posted on 01/02/2013 9:19:06 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: peyton randolph
After all, he was one of Obama’s biggest cheerleaders in 2008.

That's funny. I never heard that from Krauthammer at all. Maybe you could point me to some cites.

14 posted on 01/02/2013 9:27:32 AM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people..)
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To: tsowellfan

It’s very simple. obama’s opposition ceased to exist once he was allowed to steal the election. The republicans allowed it to happen, with some even saying publicly “He won fair and square”. All they are now is someone the left can ridicule.

I feel for those who will have to live under obama for many years to come. But I laugh at the idiots who voted for him. For they will get what they deserve. They will see their children and grandchildren live in bondage. And they will come to realize way too late that it was they who made the chains.


15 posted on 01/02/2013 9:35:19 AM PST by Terry Mross ( I post so people who hate me will know what I think. And they can't seem to stop reading. LOL)
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To: BfloGuy; peyton randolph

I have heard an occassional “compliment” for Bh0 from Krauthammer, but those were ususally sarcastic, which he does quite well and often. And there are times when one has to compliment their enemy in what the enemy achieved dispite one’s own efforts against it. Another name for that is “giving the devil his due” and isn’t as much a compliment as a recognition of fact.

Think here of a football game, where your team is scored against because of a brilliant play by the opposition. (hopefully you are an American football fan)


16 posted on 01/02/2013 9:42:32 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: tsowellfan

OK. The dems won. Now what? We’re still broke.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 9:44:31 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: Political Junkie Too

The democrats voted with boner yesterday. They’ll vote for him for speaker if the votes are needed.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 9:47:17 AM PST by Terry Mross ( I post so people who hate me will know what I think. And they can't seem to stop reading. LOL)
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To: tsowellfan; Impy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj

frankly, I am surprised that the DEMS agreed to the bill as it is. They made permanent the Bush tax cuts. (for 99%). the tax cuts they opposed for 12 years. The dems had a chance to really pile a huge tax increase, historical, on the American people. The New Party should rioting in the streets about this bill.

The House GOP negotiated like stooges. But I’m shock dirty Harry didn’t screw us worse. They cannot raise taxes again without the House and they didn’t need a vote in the House for the taxes to go up this time. The cuts were expirin’, remember.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 9:49:24 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigned for local conservatives only)
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To: tsowellfan

This budget deal with the Democrats is the beginning of the end for our Republic. The GOP needs to be dissolved and replaced with a new conservative party. The string of failures starting with the squandering of the take over of the House in 1994 and the disasterous nominations of Dole, McCane and Romney have made the GOP the midwife for Obama’s Marxist state.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 10:01:57 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Terry Mross
The democrats voted with boner yesterday. They’ll vote for him for speaker if the votes are needed.

It doesn't work that way. The vote for Speaker is not a plurality vote. Boehner must get at least 218 votes to keep the Speakership. Democrats don't have that many votes.

All it will take is for 14 Republicans to vote "present" for Boehner to not reach 218.

If that happens, Boehner can strong-arm some more and take another vote, or he can step aside and let someone else come forward.

-PJ

21 posted on 01/02/2013 10:02:46 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: The Great RJ
This budget deal with the Democrats is the beginning of the end for our Republic.

Not yet. We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip, the Republicans need to get substantial spending cuts starting this year. Absent achieving substantial ACTUAL cuts, not just promises to make cuts in the future, then you are correct - it will cause the party to lose a huge chunk of its support.

There were some positives that came out of the Bill they negotiated. Permanent tax breaks for 99% of wage earners; reasonable capital gains tax rates - also made permanent; etc.

22 posted on 01/02/2013 10:12:45 AM PST by Go Gordon (It's barack hussein obama - because he doesn't believe in capitalism.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Yeah, it seems everyone is overlooking the ‘permanent’ part. I think that’s a pretty big deal.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 10:23:07 AM PST by Darth Reardon
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To: peyton randolph

He should have spent the time he wasted going after Palin on Obama, and he and the rest are eternally guilty of letting the “historical” (i.e. half black) thing distract them and failing to adequately inform the public of Obama’s inexperience and leftism. But he wasn’t a cheerleaders. And his being inside the beltway is all the more reason to listen to him on how far Pubs bent over.


24 posted on 01/02/2013 10:33:27 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: BfloGuy

Part of the pseudo-conservative candlight dinner love fest with Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/obamas-dinner-with-conser_n_157701.html

Here’s his “Cool Barry” column. Get out the kneepads.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/02/AR2008100203043.html

Here’s another gem from 2010.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/255486/new-comeback-kid-charles-krauthammer#


25 posted on 01/02/2013 10:48:57 AM PST by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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To: tsowellfan

Obama took himself hostage and the Republicans caved.

26 posted on 01/02/2013 10:50:45 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

lol. True. Then went back to vacay in choomland...


27 posted on 01/02/2013 10:53:52 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; Impy

The GOP:

Kool-Aid tastes just great
I wish I had some lovely
Kool-Aid; I can’t wait


28 posted on 01/02/2013 11:18:05 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; Impy
Glad this nonsense is finally over, it was dragged out way too long

See #140 here

29 posted on 01/02/2013 11:45:32 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining ,about losing.)
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To: peyton randolph
Those don't cut it. They don't support what you claimed.

The fact that he attended the famous dinner says nothing more than that he accepted an invitation. As a pundit, why shouldn't he accept?

From the second link:

It worked for two reasons: Democrats believe that nonsense, and he was new. But now he needs more than Democrats. And novelty fades.

The piece was a critique of McCain's campaign. He thought Obama's campaign was well-run and that Obama did what he needed to do. No admiration of his policies at all.

The last link is the same theme. He said that Obama had made himself relevant again and explained why.

Krauthammer's observations [time after time after time] -- i.e., Obama has good political skills, but bad policies -- aren't in the least bit controversial and do not describe a fan of Obama. Simply someone who is capable of recognizing Obama's strengths despite his dislike of his policies. Your criticism of Krauthammer is inaccurate.

30 posted on 01/02/2013 3:54:08 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people..)
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To: GreyFriar
Another name for that is “giving the devil his due” and isn’t as much a compliment as a recognition of fact.

Precisely. I think Obama is an under-educated, narcissistic, pseudo-Marxist. I suspect Krauthammer would largely agree. But he also just got the Republicans to raise taxes for the first time in two decades.

Grudging admiration for that fact does not make one a fan-boy.

31 posted on 01/02/2013 4:02:25 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people..)
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To: BfloGuy

You’re entitled to your opinion. In my view, there’s little distinguishing Peggy Noonan and Krauthammer. They both bought the “Barack the Magic Negro” hype in 2008 and have been trying to back peddle ever since without offending the Manhattan and Georgetown cocktail circuits.


32 posted on 01/02/2013 4:06:36 PM PST by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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