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Florida first state to reach 1 million gun permits
BIZPACReview.com ^ | 1/02/2012 | Cheryl Carpenter Klimek

Posted on 01/02/2013 9:58:54 AM PST by SmileRight

It’s official: Florida has passed the one million mark in issuing concealed carry gun permits – the most of any other state.

In mid-December, Commissioner of Agriculture Adam Putnam released a statement announcing the upcoming milestone and sharing information about the Florida Concealed Weapon and Firearm License Program.

“In 1987, Florida issued its first statewide concealed weapon license after the Florida Legislature established standardized and uniform requirements for the issuance of a concealed weapon license,” said Commissoner Putnam. “Twenty-five years later,...

(Excerpt) Read more at bizpacreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealcarry; florida; guncontrol; guns; permit; secondamendment
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You'd think that Feinstein et al would get the message. People don't want their guns taken away.
1 posted on 01/02/2013 9:59:05 AM PST by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight

We needs stats on CCW permits per 100,000 population.

I’ll bet Colorado has a higher density of permit holders.

Backlog is now 8 biz days.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 10:02:20 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SmileRight
"You'd think that Feinstein et al would get the message. People don't want their guns taken away."

Every semi-automatic rifle, every semi-automatic handgun, every box of ammo bought for either, and every new membership to the NRA is a vote sending that same message. There is more than one way to vote. Some are more peaceful than others.

3 posted on 01/02/2013 10:08:21 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: SmileRight

And how many weapons does each CCP holder have? + those who have weapons at home without a CCP. A well armed state but can the holders get together?


4 posted on 01/02/2013 10:09:25 AM PST by capt B
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To: G Larry

Colorado: 2.7%
Florida: 5.2%

You guys have a lot of catching up to do.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 10:12:54 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SmileRight

I’m still hoping for concealed carry without permits in VA.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 10:13:37 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Bryanw92

Wow!

I believe you, but could you give me a source?

I’d like to know how current this is and be able to track.


7 posted on 01/02/2013 10:15:59 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SmileRight

In NY and Chicago, there’s a million without permits.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 10:16:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: capt B

>>And how many weapons does each CCP holder have? + those who have weapons at home without a CCP.

Every permit holder I know has multiple weapons. I don’t know anyone with a permit who doesn’t own at least one gun.

Can they get together?? Sadly, I doubt it.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 10:18:02 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: G Larry

Backlog for background checks or permits?

My background check last week took 15 mins here in Florida.

Forcing you to wait 8 days for a background check is an infringement.


10 posted on 01/02/2013 10:19:07 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: G Larry

http://legallyarmed.com/ccw_statistics.htm

I used 2011 census figures for the general population.


11 posted on 01/02/2013 10:19:27 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: G Larry

I did a bit of research for a master’s degree project this past summer-came up with about 7.6 million permits (from various sources, exlcuding states that had no figures to report or had non-permitted carry provisions).

So, with a US population of of ~310 million, that comes out to about 2452 permits per 100k population.

(7.6 million permits divided by 310 million US population times 100 thousand)= 2451.6

A few potentailly armed citizens to say the least, of course discounting those who have can but are not carrying, and not accounting for states with no permit required (A few well armed states to say the least).


12 posted on 01/02/2013 10:23:53 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: driftdiver

Background checks

I’m certain cuz wife is in line.

Sheriffs asking for more budget, Libs in State House argue, buyers should pay.

Will be interesting peeing contest.
Store manager said he’d pick up cost, rather than pass it on, unless new law prohibits.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 10:24:13 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SmileRight

(s)you’re just being “clingy. (/s)


14 posted on 01/02/2013 10:26:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bryanw92

I used this source and others for my calculations back in June 2012 (that I referenced in my post a moment ago).


15 posted on 01/02/2013 10:26:45 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Bryanw92

we need more first time buyers.

ownership means property.

property means rights

rights means life, liberty, and pusuit of happiness.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 10:29:08 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bryanw92

My friends jerk of a son (22yo) and 3 of his friends all got permits but don’t own any weapons. They thought it would be cool to walk around armed if they wanted to.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 10:30:21 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: G Larry

As of todays MO DOR monthly report for Dec 2012, there are 160, 184 permits active in the state. I think drilling down to consider only of age (21 on MO unless on active mil duty, then 18 for CCW) would be better, as we can discount all under age kiddos.

Found the updated pop data for 2011, MO pop is ~ 6010628, 6.4% are under 18, so that’s really 5,265,948 “adults”, so the new adult concealed carry rate is as high as 2847 per 100k adults in MO.

Good deal!

Go to your states webpages and see if they post total numbers- would be nice to get all “57” states data in and do it up right...

I’d be glad to compile all the data and come up with a most accurate picture of CCW rates in the US.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 10:41:25 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: stuartcr

That’s a lot of money for someone who doesn’t carry ANY weapons! But, the cool thing about FR is that you can always find an exception to any statement within a few minutes of posting.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 10:43:26 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: G Larry; Bryanw92

Our Florida CCW is sought-after by many nonresidents as it has wide reciprocity - in fact, when I used to live in NY, the local gun store had Florida + Utah CCW classes to obtain licensure recognized in most other states.

So as it looks like this list isn’t 1 million resident permits, but just 1 million permits, the per 100,000 may be closer to Colorado’s.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 10:51:57 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Bryanw92

For them, $100 or so isn’t much. They all did it to celebrate turning 21, that and being able to buy alcohol. I don’t think any of them would ever actually carry. The only time they ever held a weapon was during the class.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 10:55:58 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Dan Nunn

Do you have stats on the number of non-resident permits issued?

Florida has a large non-resident population who would not appear on our census figures either, so the two numbers might cancel each other out.


22 posted on 01/02/2013 11:11:31 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Can they get together? Sadly I doubt it.

Time to start planning. Facebook, Twitter, the web. If the “wilders” can do it, it seems to me that the honest citizenry can. “Where there is a will there is a way”. Q- is there the will?


23 posted on 01/02/2013 11:20:43 AM PST by capt B
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To: capt B

The problem isn’t in the planning. It is in the motivation. Why get together? Who are we going to fight? The government? The liberal next door? College professors? At this point in time, we are still comfortable. We have our full bellies, full gas tanks, 24/7 power and water, electronics out the wazoo, a church on every corner, etc.

If we band together in 1990’s style militia, the government will just infiltrate them with informants, so staying disorganized is best. When we’ve lost enough comforts, we might band together and fight, but we still don’t know who to fight.

I believe that the American people would be very content with slavery as long as the lights and water stays on, cable TV and internet porn and gaming keeps working, we keep on getting new electronics every few years, and the restaurants stay open. These people will send their kids to bureaucrats for indoctination, they’ll surrender most of the guns and bury the rest, and they’ll accept high taxes in exchange for free stuff.

Of course, at some point, we’ll have all that...and then our Chinese masters will move the factories over here so we can produce cheap junk for their consumer class. And by then, it will be too late.


24 posted on 01/02/2013 11:31:21 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Manly Warrior

This is one of 2 reasons I don’t have a CCW permit anymore. 1 - I can’t carry where I work, 2 - it’s just 1 less govt database to be in. I’m thankful Virginia has decent open-carry and carry loaded in a vehicle laws. I’m hoping for CC without permit.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 11:41:23 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Bryanw92
...they’ll accept high taxes in exchange for free stuff.

Socialism is the rule of the most ruthless, using the common man's conceit, over the most gifted and accomplished.

26 posted on 01/02/2013 11:46:34 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Bryanw92

Agree with your reasoning. Today’s young care only of there i Pods, dancing with the Stars, Football/real and fantasy, games and TEXTING


27 posted on 01/02/2013 11:55:54 AM PST by capt B
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To: Bryanw92
Most of the state of Arizona 21 and older can carry without a permit.

We need to do away with the idea of needing a permit to exercise a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

28 posted on 01/02/2013 11:59:26 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: G Larry

We pay $5 which goes to the state to cover the costs.


29 posted on 01/02/2013 12:03:01 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bryanw92
...all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

I don't know what y'all are complaining about...we simply aren't "there" yet.

30 posted on 01/02/2013 12:06:50 PM PST by papertyger
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To: SmileRight

Wow, if asked I wouldn’t have guessed Florida was #1. I would probably have said Texas.


31 posted on 01/02/2013 12:08:35 PM PST by servo1969
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To: Bryanw92

Wish I did, but I don’t think Florida differentiates the two (or if they do, release the data separately).


32 posted on 01/02/2013 12:44:31 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Repeat Offender

Is that with or without conceal?


33 posted on 01/02/2013 1:38:51 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Repeat Offender

Is that with or without conceal?


34 posted on 01/02/2013 1:39:03 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
Is that with or without conceal?

Yes.

35 posted on 01/02/2013 1:58:17 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

I’m hoping Va gets that. To me a conceal carry permit is like registering as a gun owner.


36 posted on 01/02/2013 2:50:13 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Repeat Offender

I’m hoping Va gets that. To me a conceal carry permit is like registering as a gun owner.


37 posted on 01/02/2013 2:50:21 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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I hope we/they do too. Selfishly, I'm happy I have a resident VA CCW permit because it reciprocates in NC, where I'm stationed.

The sheriff is responsible for issuing permits in this hellhole of a county and while the base never previously required a "command letter" a non-problem was made a problem. Two other nearby counties never made an issue of it, but supposedly in the recent past have followed suit.

That’s when, then-Maj. Gen. Robert C. Dickerson Jr., signed a Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune order to satisfy Onslow County and state requirements. This allowed service members the opportunity to obtain a pistol and CCW permit

Funny they don't have this issue in VA

38 posted on 01/02/2013 3:21:16 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: G Larry

He is probably right as Douglas County has 300,000 people but only 8,000 CWP.


39 posted on 01/02/2013 3:23:33 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: SmileRight

My state has zero gun permits.


40 posted on 01/02/2013 3:35:40 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Repeat Offender

I’m not active so I don’t know about that. I do know that I can’t bring my firearms with me to work and go to the range on the way home, by order of some all the base commanders here. I’m lucky though, in that my wife works on the way to the range, so if I’m leaving early to go shoot, I just put them in her car in the morning and pick them up on the way to the range.


41 posted on 01/02/2013 3:42:18 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: CodeToad

“8,000 CWP”

Well THAT is changing fast.

Lady that just did my home appraisal applied in Dec. and was told they had 3000 aps in Dec.

When I renewed in August, they were at 1900 for the year.

We’re both in Douglas Cty.


42 posted on 01/02/2013 4:07:56 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: stuartcr

I was in GNC with a couple 20 something clerks talking about getting permits.

One other customer in the store happened to be an instructor at Front-Sight.

He did a great job of discouraging them from applying. Said, if he was in the store and it was being robbed, he wouldn’t pull his weapon. Told them why.

Now, I wasn’t buying any of this, but I thought it was good that he made thse macho wanna be’s think twice about the responsibility and the legal limitations of carrying.


43 posted on 01/02/2013 4:18:54 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

Good to know. Last December 2010 was when we had to renew and the total count was about 7,800. Both of our permit numbers are below 300. :)


44 posted on 01/02/2013 5:00:10 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: G Larry

P.S. Sheriff Weaver said he had to process about 1,700 in 2010 plus the renewals.


45 posted on 01/02/2013 5:01:16 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: G Larry

Luckily I don’t think these kids think much about it. Sometimes I think the whole CCW thing should be rethought.


46 posted on 01/02/2013 5:09:16 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: G Larry

Luckily I don’t think these kids think much about it. Sometimes I think the whole CCW thing should be rethought.


47 posted on 01/02/2013 5:09:31 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Bryanw92

Florida is kind of a LIVE FREE OR DIE state despite being so ethnically mixed


48 posted on 01/02/2013 5:29:10 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

Brevard is a good county. Palm Bay gun club is topnotch, one of my biggest regrets leaving there. I could shoot at my own pace daily.


49 posted on 01/02/2013 6:18:05 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: dennisw

Brevard is a good county. Palm Bay gun club is topnotch, one of my biggest regrets leaving there. I could shoot at my own pace daily.


50 posted on 01/02/2013 6:18:17 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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