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New California regs forcing trucks off the road
Times 247 ^ | Jan. 1, 2013 | Katherine Timpf

Posted on 01/02/2013 10:19:17 AM PST by lward99

California rang in the New Year by placing certain truck engines, trailers, tires and even entire vehicles on its environmental out list — requiring motor carriers to spend tens of thousands of dollars on new equipment that may never meet the state's ambitious objectives.

The new rules apply to trucks registered in other states — and even other countries.

“The state is forcing certain trucking companies and operators to make investments that are going to add cost with no return with regard to fuel efficiency, and therefore no impact on their desired policy operative,” said Steve Laskowski, senior vice president of the Canadian Trucking Alliance.

Read more: http://times247.com/articles/23calif-regulations-forcing-trucks-off-the-road9#ixzz2GqLAMXDJ

(Excerpt) Read more at times247.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: carb; truckers; trucks
MUST READ! New year means new rules in California, and one is putting small trucking companies out of business. Monumental, yet not reported by mainstream media!
1 posted on 01/02/2013 10:19:24 AM PST by lward99
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To: lward99

Ya can’t fix stupid but ya can neuter it.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 10:23:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lward99
MUST READ! New year means new rules in California, and one is putting small trucking companies out of business. Monumental, yet not reported by mainstream media!

This is its intended effect.
 

It's one reason so many multinationals support this eco-terrorism. They know their competitors can't absorb the costs.

3 posted on 01/02/2013 10:26:50 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: cripplecreek

The closer you get to the drain, the faster the turds swirl..................


4 posted on 01/02/2013 10:27:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger

LOL


5 posted on 01/02/2013 10:29:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: zeugma

So much for these guys..............

6 posted on 01/02/2013 10:29:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: lward99

I dropped CA from my operating authority.

Won’t miss it.


7 posted on 01/02/2013 10:30:59 AM PST by datura (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriotism!)
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To: lward99

The proper business answer is to refuse to ship freight there.
Once it becomes uneconomical to ship freight to Californistan, businesses will no longer do business there.
Of course, someone could “suggest” that California “invest” in a bunch of battery powered vehicle that would be tasked with picking up the freight at the border and delivering it.
I’m “sure” this will “work” out well for Caifornistan.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 10:31:25 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: lward99

Trucks from Mexico are exempt ...


9 posted on 01/02/2013 10:31:45 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: lward99

I love it when I buy a common product here and see this warning on it.

“WARNING! This product contains an ingredient known in the state of California to cause cancer.”

Perhaps it should be changed to read ...

“WARNING: This product contains an ingredient that causes cancer ONLY in the state of California!”


10 posted on 01/02/2013 10:34:48 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: zeugma
Reminds me of the time that all gas stations were "forced" to put in new tanks to "protect" the environment. Smaller independent stations cold not afford the cost, but the major oil companies could. Results were less competition and higher prices for all.

A few years later they added the mandate for vapor recovery pumps. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

11 posted on 01/02/2013 10:35:14 AM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: lward99
California's blueprint for their future.
12 posted on 01/02/2013 10:39:20 AM PST by Disambiguator (Liberalism is the abomination that causes desolation.)
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To: lward99

This problem can be fixed quickly. Food is delivered by trucks. Stop all trucks, California dies from no food, problem solved. No need for trucks there anymore.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 10:39:37 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Darksheare

The Peoples’ Revolutionary Soviet of Alta California strikes again. Who they not pass legislation reducing friction and gravity within the Soviet’s borders?


14 posted on 01/02/2013 10:40:08 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: lward99
Easy Solution:
Trucking companies should just not do business in California.

15 posted on 01/02/2013 10:41:05 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Trucks from Mexico are exempt ...

That's funny. Soon, trucks from Canada will be exempt too.

My prediction? This law will "evolve" as all bad legislation does. At some point, it will have to exempt out of state trucks and trailers that are interstate carriers. So then it would only apply to companies based in CA. They won't see the bullet in the barrel that they are looking into and CA will completely decimate it's own trucking industry (the perverbial shooting thyself in the head).

You will see out of state carriers start to truck to and from the ports from out of state. Companies will then start avoiding the CA shipping ports and opt for Oregon and Washington or even East Coast and Mexico.

Our Fed sees no conflict with the Constitutions interstate commerce clause here even though this is one of the few reasons that a Federal Government was argued for by the Federalists.

16 posted on 01/02/2013 10:41:05 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Red Badger
So much for these guys..............

Have you tried "Two Men and a Chevy Volt"?

17 posted on 01/02/2013 10:41:51 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: lward99

The State of California deserves all the grousing, and slander one can toss in their direction, but this action has been well publicized throughout the industry, NOT necessarily the MSM, but the trucking industry through mailers, and other means, and every mom & pop trucker has been aware, therefore is aware of this. It’s also been postponed a couple of times.

I know the trucking company my wife works for the past 35 years is well aware of it, and has decried the postponements only due the fear of their forced investments being all of a sudden for naught.

It’s total BS IMO. Heresy, or science? The Left has fairies in their trees.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 10:42:41 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Sure, and while they are at it they should legislate how long the sun stays up as well as infinite electricity for all.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 10:45:43 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

Works the other way also. How do California businesses get their products shipped to the rest of the country?

Then there is the fresh food shipped from CA. Hmm...

Last one out of CA, can leave the light on. We don’t care.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 10:49:50 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: lward99

There are apparently also permit fees based on the size of your fleet. My son told me the local well pump place had to get rid of one of its rigs as it put them over the threshold.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 10:50:40 AM PST by marsh2
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To: Darksheare

Sounds like a plan! When shall you attain office in the Peoples’ Committee for Energy, Environment, and Fuzzy Slippers?


22 posted on 01/02/2013 10:52:14 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Darksheare

Nuclear Powered Trucks would be required, Batteries would never cope with the distances.
They could use Solar............oh look! A Unicorn...


23 posted on 01/02/2013 10:53:04 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. I'm off to the edge of the World to Scream, be back later.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Have you tried "Two Men and a Chevy Volt"?

Sounds like one of Barney Frank's fantasies.
24 posted on 01/02/2013 10:54:26 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: listenhillary

That would be nice.
Wish businesses would get the hint.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 10:57:23 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Army Air Corps; moose07

I wish, I’d charge Cali a double rate for my time and spend most of it trolling the beaches for cheap laughs.

Californistan deserves to have businesses flee in droves.
Sadly, our server is there.
Would be nice for there to be a contingency plan to extract and relocate to a safer location.


26 posted on 01/02/2013 11:01:02 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: lward99

The railroads may benefit.


27 posted on 01/02/2013 11:22:19 AM PST by Joe Bfstplk
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To: Darksheare

more union workers! that’s a great idea!


28 posted on 01/02/2013 11:32:45 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Marcella

If you bought it, then a truck brought it.


29 posted on 01/02/2013 11:36:42 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: lward99

GOOD!

Stop delivering in California and you won’t have to pay their damn taxes and fuel prices either.

1 Million fewer trucks working in California ought to make an impression at some point.


30 posted on 01/02/2013 11:56:22 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: zeugma
It's one reason so many multinationals support this eco-terrorism. They know their competitors can't absorb the costs.

You're right. The MSM - a group that prides itself on knowing what's going on - won't be fed this story by their dem handlers. Guess the New York Times and Washington Post will 'miss' this one - and all it implies...

31 posted on 01/02/2013 12:00:40 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Rusty0604

The beauty of that hideous idea is that the battery powered freight vehicles would be broken down or bricked most of the time.
It would force Cali under in no time flat.
Being the “most progressive state” they would doggedly continue trying to make it work until the place overturned in blood and fire.
Plus, add the battery powered vehicles to the already crippled power system in Cali, and the state would be an electricity black hole.
It’s a plan to cripple Cali.


32 posted on 01/02/2013 12:07:01 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

I know, I was adding that the unions would jump on that idea and that would cripple the State even faster. I just moved out of Cali last summer, it got to the point that the weather and beauty couldn’t outweigh the lunacy anymore and I was tired of helping to pay to finance it.


33 posted on 01/02/2013 12:50:10 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: All

You can be sure that the Mexican trucks coming into CA will be exempt. The Free Traders who push NAFTA will take CA to NAFTA Court over this law....of course the Free Trader Commies could care less a about the US truckers affected. Would not be surprised that this CA law was passed to go after US trucks specifically


34 posted on 01/02/2013 1:34:24 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Darksheare

Cloward and Piven, Chapter 1125.

Bankrupt the most prosperous state in the Union by not letting them exploit their own resources, create a huge Government bureaucracy, illegal alien sanctuary, 1/3 of all welfare cases and then strangle yourself with regulations.

My tin hat is sparkling today.


35 posted on 01/02/2013 1:50:11 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: lward99

If this is a way to get unsafe Mexican trucks off the road, that is a benefit. If it’s just to kill American truckers, I can’t support it.


36 posted on 01/02/2013 2:23:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: wac3rd

That’d be it.

And Californistan will do it to itself willingly.


37 posted on 01/02/2013 5:08:11 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Rusty0604

You escaped, excellent!
Wonder if we’ll have to do an Underground Railroad system to help other get out of Cali at some point in teh near future.


38 posted on 01/02/2013 5:20:53 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare
Once it becomes uneconomical to ship freight to Californistan, businesses will no longer do business there.

I take it you think blowing off the PORTS of Long Beach, San Pedro, Oakland, Stockton, Richmond, and San Diego is of no consequence to the rest of the nation? Really?

Won't happen, at least not until Mexico can grab that business. As things are, they can't possibly handle the volume.

39 posted on 01/02/2013 9:10:19 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie

Trust me, they’ll do something similarly stupid to the ports.
Give them a moment, they’ll think of it.


40 posted on 01/03/2013 5:21:35 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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