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Gallup: 50% Believe America’s Best Years Are Behind Us
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Posted on 01/02/2013 10:40:35 AM PST by chessplayer

(CNSNews.com) – Fifty percent of Americans now believe the country’s best years are past, according to Gallup, while 47 percent still say America’s best years are still to come.


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I have to agree the country has passed it'e peak and it's downhill from here on in. Our rights are disappearing, the senate wants to relinquish all it's power to the executive, more and more people are coming out and saying the Constitution needs major overhaul or should be scrapped altogether, more and more countries are passing us by in terms of standard of living, our borders are wide open to anyone who wants to walk in, things that made us great, like the space program, are being scrapped. The list goes on.
1 posted on 01/02/2013 10:40:43 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
50% Believe America’s Best Years Are Behind Us

The other 50% have their heads in the sand.

2 posted on 01/02/2013 10:42:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer

“while 47 percent still say America’s best years are still to come”

Did they get a free Obamaphone?


3 posted on 01/02/2013 10:44:32 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: chessplayer

I agree with your post except for the Space program getting scrapped...that is a good thing. We can’t afford it and quite frankly should be scrapping much much more. Sorry if your personal pet project got kicked to the curb, but more should be...we SHOULD be paying 7 bucks a gallon for milk. Oh we are going down hill and fast. I just wish people would stop complaining about their little projects getting slashed...that is 100 percent of our problem. Nobody wants their pet cut....well it all needs cut. This post was not directed at you, but everyone!!!


4 posted on 01/02/2013 10:46:57 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: chessplayer

So only half of Americans can see what is plainly there in front of thier faces? I’m not surprised a bit.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 10:48:11 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: chessplayer
In a 1987 Bicentennial of the Constitution Volume entitled "Our Ageless Constitution", Dr. Russell Kirk ("The Conservative Mind") contributed an essay entitled, "The Responsibility of Citizens." That essay's premise is pertinent to the subject of this thread and is reprinted, with permission, below:

THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CITIZENS

"Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature." - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787

Background And Original Intent

"A good constitution is the greatest blessing which a socie­ty can enjoy." So said James Wilson, in his oration at Philadelphia on July 4, 1788, celebrating the adoption of the Constitution of the United States. Wilson, who signed both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, preached startlingly democratic theories - more democratic than the ideas of any other delegate to the Constitutional Convention.

Yet Wilson emphasized the duties, as well as the rights, of citizens:

"Need I infer, that it is the duty of every citizen to use his best and most unremitting endeavours for preserving it [the Constitution] pure, healthful, and vigorous? For the accomplishment of this great purpose, the exertions of no one citizen are unimportant. Let no one, therefore harbour, for a moment, the mean idea, that he is and can be of no value to his country: let the contrary manly impres­sion animate his soul. Every one can, at many times, perform, to the state, useful services; and he, who steadily pursues the road of patriotism, has the most inviting prospect of being able, at some times, to perform eminent ones."

Wilson's argument is quite as sound now as it was two centuries ago. The success of the American Republic as a political structure has been the consequence, in very large part, of the voluntary participation of citizens in public affairs - enlisting in the army in time of war; serving on school boards; taking part unpaid in political campaigns; petitioning legislatures; sup­porting the President in an hour of crisis; and in a hundred other great ways, or small-assuming responsibility for the com­mon good. The Constitution has functioned well, most of the time, because conscientious men and women have given it flesh.

The Premises of Americans' Responsibility Under the Constitution of 1787

In the matters which most immediately affect private life, power should remain in the hands of the citizens, or of the several states - not in the possession of federal government. So, at least, the Constitution declares. Americans have no official cards of identity, or internal passports, or system of national registration of all citizens - obligations imposed upon citizens in much of the rest of the world. This freedom results from Americans' voluntary assumption of responsibility.

In matters of public concern, it was the original intent to keep authority as close to home as possible. The lesser courts, the police, the maintenance of roads and sanitation, the levying of real-property taxes, the control of public schools, and many other essential functions still are carried on by the agen­cies of local community: the township, the village, the city, the county, the voluntary association. Citizens' cooperation in voluntary community throughout the United States has been noted and commended in the books of Alexis de Tocqueville, Lord Bryce, Julian Marias, and other distinguished visitors to the United States, over the past two centuries:

A republic whose citizens - whose leaders, indeed - are concerned chiefly with "looking out for Number One," and ig­noring their responsibilities of citizenship, soon cannot "insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare" - or carry on the other major duties of the state. When the crisis comes, the people may turn in desperation to the hero-administrator, the misty figure somewhere at the summit. But in the end, that hero­administrator will not save the republic, although he may govern for a time by force. A democratic republic cannot long endure unless a great many of its citizens stand ready and will­ing to brighten the corner where they are, and to sacrifice much for the nation, if need be.

Has The Consciousness of Responsibility Withered in America?

For the past five or six decades, several perceptive observers have remarked, an increasing proportion of the American population has ceased to feel responsible for the common defense, for productive work, for choosing able men and women to represent them in politics, for accepting personal responsibility for the needs of the community, or even for their own livelihood. Unless this deterioration is arrested, the responsible citizens will be too few to support and protect the irresponsible. By 1978 there were more people receiving regular government checks than there were workers in the private sector.

What follows, if we are to judge by the history of fallen civilizations, is described by Albert Jay Nock in his book Memoirs of a Superfluous Man (1943):

"... closer centralization; a steadily growing bureaucracy; State power and faith in State power increasing; social power and faith in social power diminishing; the State absorbing a continually larger proportion of the national income; production languishing; the State in consequence taking over one 'essential industry' after another, managing them with ever-increasing corruption, inefficiency, and prodigality, and finally resorting to a system of forced labor. Then at some point in this process a collision of State interests, at least as general and as violent as that which occurred in 1914, will result in an industrial and financial dislocation too severe for the asthenic [weak] social structure to bear; and from this the State will be left to 'the rusty death of machinery' and the casual anonymous forces of dissolution."

Modem civilization offers a great variety of diversions, amusements, and enticements - some of them baneful. But modem civilization does not offer many inducements to the performance of duties, except perhaps monetary payment, and certainly it does not teach people that the real reward for responsible citizenship is the preservation of a free society.

It is not money that can induce citizens to labor and sacrifice for the common good. They must be moved by patriotism and their attachment to the Constitution. And patriotism alone, ignorant boasting about ones native land, would not suffice to preserve the Republic.

Thus it is that on the occasion of the Bicentennial celebrating of the Constitution, a mighty effort ought to be made to restore the American public's awareness of the principles of their government, of their responsibilities toward their country, their neighbors, their children, their parents, and themselves to be sure that their patrotism is based on this solid foundation. No one knows how late the hour is; but it is later than most people think. Love of the Republic shelters all our other loves; and that love is worth some sacrifice.

Responsibilities Are Readily Forgotten

Nearly all of us are quick to claim benefits, but not everybody is eager to fulfill obligations. We have become a nation obsessed with rights, forgetful of responsibilities. In an age of seeming affluence, a great many people find it easy to forget that all good things must be paid for by somebody or other - paid for through hard work, through painful abstinence, sometimes through bitter sacrifice. Below we set down some of the causes for the decline of a sense of responsibility among some American citizens.

In other words, the temptation of public men in Washington is always to offer to have the federal government assume fresh responsibilities - with consequent decay of local and private vigor (it might be argued that, at least in part, a failure in the proper exercise of citizens' responsibility permitted the development of the welfare state syndrome - that the government owes them a living. In any event, once it got under way and the welfare state grew, the sense of citizens' responsibility and rugged individualism deteriorated).

These are only some of the reasons why a 'permissive" society speaks often of rights and seldom of responsibilities. A time comes, in the course of events, when abruptly there is a most urgent need for men and women ready to fulfill high and exacting and dangerous responsibilities. And if there are no such citizens, then liberty can be lost. It must be remembered that the great strength of the Signers of the Declaration and the Framers of the Constitution was that they knew their classical history, and how the ancient Greek cities had lost their liberties, and how the Roman system had sunk to its ruin under the weight of proletariat and military state.

Prospects For The Renewal Of Responsibility

What may be done by way of remedy? Although America's social difficulties are formidable, probably they are less daunting than those of any other great nation today. The economic resources of the United States remain impressive; and the country's intellectual resources are large.

This essay cannot offer, in its small compass, a detailed program for the popular recovery of devotion to duty. Here we can only suggest healing approaches:

In your own circumstances, you may encounter oppor­tunities for the renewal of responsibility more promising where you live than any suggested here. In any society, it always has been a minority who have upheld order and justice and freedom. If only one out of every ten citizens of the United States of America should vigorously fulfill his responsibilities to our civil social order - why, we would not need to fear for the future of this nation.


Consider

  1. In all previous cultures, children ordinarily accepted responsibility for the well-being of their parents in old age; and in various societies, the children were so held accountable in law. Why has this form of responsibility decayed in the twentieth century? Can you think of political and social causes for the care of elderly parents being turned over to public agencies?

  2. Can you name seven or eight voluntary associations or organizations, not subsidized or directed by government, that perform important services in your community or in America generally? Explore the benefits from this kind of involvement as opposed to "letting the government do it."

  3. Responsible citizenship sometimes brings risks - all the way from unpopularity in some local dispute to pushing forward under enemy fire in military action. How may schools help to teach the rising generation the high importance of performing duties that may be dangerous?

  4. Are you and I personally responsible for our decisions and actions, or are we simply creatures of our environment, "conditioned" to respond in one way or another to events and challenges? Marshal the arguments on either side of this question, and then consider the probable social consequences of believing in freedom of the will, or believing that society, rather than the individual person, is responsible for citizen's actions.

  5. What are you doing to help preserve the great principles on which this nation and your personal freedoms are based?


Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part VII Essay (Dr. Russell Kirk & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Co-Authors):  ISBN 0-937047-01-5 Read more, or download a copy of the essay here.

6 posted on 01/02/2013 10:55:52 AM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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To: chessplayer
We have to set our sights on after the collapse.

Ubama and his fellow travelers plan on being in charge.

They can't be in charge if they are room temperature.

7 posted on 01/02/2013 10:57:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: dfwgator
On alphabet TV news last nite they asked a cute young white girl what resolution she had for 2013, she said " to finish college, I can now that Obama got re-elected "

to the moocher class its all coming up roses. However, over just the last 4 years I have watched everyone around me get layed off and got hours cut back as I sold off everything I accumulated until now its down to a short sale and retraining for another career, maybe as a truck driver or burger flipper if the mexicans will let me in

8 posted on 01/02/2013 11:00:04 AM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We have to set our sights on after the collapse.

It took the USSR seven decades to collapse, and they started out with far less wealth to ste....err, expropriate. I think few of us alive today will be around for the actual collapse.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 11:01:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You underestimate President Cloward-Piven's competence at being incompetent.
10 posted on 01/02/2013 11:05:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: dfwgator
The other 50% have their heads in the sand.

YUP! That's really all that needs to be said. 50% are paying attention and the other 50% is collecting goodies from Santa Claus. Their time will come. When Santa is out of business, they'll wonder where the next gift is comming from.

11 posted on 01/02/2013 11:06:12 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: F15Eagle

There is romney’s 47%.

LLS


12 posted on 01/02/2013 11:07:08 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: napscoordinator
Without space... we will all be speaking chinese in 20 years. Such short sightedness. Cut out ALL of socialist security... ALL of medicare... you paid into it you say??? We ALL got screwed out of our money. Help only the truly needy and screw the rest of welfare. I am 58 and I would give up BOTH if the government would GTF out of my life.

LLS

13 posted on 01/02/2013 11:11:55 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: napscoordinator
the Space program getting scrapped...that is a good thing. We can’t afford it.
I agree and it wasn't just the cost - WTH did we get in return?
Like the space shuttle program. For thirty feckin' years it went up-down, up-down ... and never accomplished anything - and cost 14 astronauts their lives.
Same with the Mars rovers. You know, after twenty years of exploring the planet, you'd think someone would get the message - there's nothing there!
14 posted on 01/02/2013 11:11:55 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: dfwgator

47% of Americans of whom, 120% voted for Obozo, pay no taxes. 50% of us carry the tax burden for those on the dole.

Welfare for the chronic unemployed has been extended another year.

More Obama cell phones and good phone service is on the way for them.

Most get free health care.

Their food is paid for via EBT cards which can be used at most fast foods.

Illegals get all of the above and more to come.

The 50% of us who pay for the above see the reality, that our side is on a down hill slide into hell on earth.


15 posted on 01/02/2013 11:12:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: chessplayer

The United States of America is in the same stage of decay that the Roman Empire found itself in so long ago.

The people of this society have started to demand ever more services without the ability to pay for them. Our most popular, and fastest growing sport is MMA fighting: a bloodsport.

The parallel to the Gladiatorial fighting in the Roman Circus is quite obvious.

America does not have long left as a political entity.
Can it be reborn? I would like to think so, but it will only be rebuilt after a generation or two of terrible hardship.

It pains me to express this opinion, but I believe it to be the most likely outcome.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 11:13:14 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I was thinking about that, too.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 11:15:34 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; E. Pluribus Unum
It took the USSR seven decades to collapse, and they started out with far less wealth to ste....err, expropriate. I think few of us alive today will be around for the actual collapse.

I came to this realization a few months ago. We have reached the tipping point and I don't see a way back until something REALLY big happens. The USSR collapse was hastned when Reagan seduced them to spend dramatically beyond their means. Here, we need to hasten this collapse so we can start over. Otherwise we dwindle to nothing as is happening in Europe (and has been happening for the last 50 years).

I agree, we'll not see a better America in our lifetimes. The dream is over for most of us (it is for me anyway). I'm focussed on training my kids for this new America. Part of that is learning several different languages (Spanish and Manderin at least). I am also teaching them to live poor and never be in debt. Hide their money and legally evade the Federal government.

18 posted on 01/02/2013 11:24:09 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: chessplayer

Of course, that 47% can live without breaking a sweat on OPM. If I could just take money and never work, I’d think they best days are ahead too.

Think of it as winning a perpetual lottery.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 11:25:34 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: chessplayer
while 47 percent still say America’s best years are still to come.

The 47% who pay no taxes and believe that Hollyweird celebrities stand with them in seeing that Big Sugar gives them lots of "free" stuff.

20 posted on 01/02/2013 11:25:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: chessplayer

Indeed - the 50% who pay taxes


21 posted on 01/02/2013 11:26:51 AM PST by jobim (.)
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To: chessplayer
Report: "Gallup: 50% Believe America’s Best Years Are Behind Us"

Response: The election of the current occupant of the White House conclusively proves that America's best years are behind us.

22 posted on 01/02/2013 11:30:10 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: oh8eleven
Most advances in Electronics came through the Space program. Satellite communication... GPS system... most of the electronics in new automobiles. Our Military power is almost dependent upon Space technology... and when we fail to control the high ground... THEY will and we will fail.

The shuttle and the space station were wasted funding but the Space program itself helped to give us our onetime monopoly on Super Power status. We must cut the socialist entitlement programs... there is the real goblin that is eating us alive... just like the cancer that it is. Food stamps cost us more than NASA does. NASA had a 2012 budget that asked for 18.2 billion and got about 16.2 billion.

"WASHINGTON, Aug 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury Department has said the auto industry bailout will cost taxpayers $3.4 billion more than previously thought.

Treasury now estimates the 2009 bailout will eventually cost the government $25.1 billion, according to a report sent to Congress on Friday.

That is up from the last quarterly estimate of $21.7 billion.

Acorn got 2 billion. This is chump change compared to the real problem.

LLS

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/10/federal-spending-by-the-numbers-2012

Federal Spending by the Numbers - 2012By Alison Acosta Fraser

October 16, 2012

The federal government has closed out its fourth straight year of trillion-dollar-plus deficits, and the imperative to rein in spending has never been greater. Because all government spending gets paid for through either taxes or borrowing—both of which burden the economy—spending reduction is an essential condition for promoting economic growth.

As this 2012 edition of Federal Spending by the Numbers shows, total federal spending for fiscal year 2012[1] reached $3.6 trillion, or 22.9 percent the size of the entire U.S. economy. In the past 20 years, federal outlays have grown 71 percent faster than inflation. The average American household’s share of this spending is $29,691, roughly two-thirds of median household income. This relentless growth is projected to continue, pushing total government outlays to $5.5 trillion a decade from now, and to about 36 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) in the next 25 years.

Federal entitlements are driving this spending growth, having increased from less than half of total federal outlays just 20 years ago to nearly 62 percent in 2012. Three major programs—Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security—dominate in size and growth, soaking up about 44 percent of the budget. All three programs are growing faster than inflation, and—when joined with $1.7 trillion in new Obamacare spending—will drain about 18.5 percent of the nation’s total economic output by mid-century. Because that is about the historical annual average of total federal tax revenue, it means all other government programs—national defense, veterans health care, transportation, federal law enforcement, and others—would effectively have to be financed on borrowed money.

Other entitlements continue growing as well. Anti-poverty programs have surged by 49 percent in just the past decade, even after adjusting for inflation. Spending for food stamps alone has more than tripled since 2002. Health programs, including Medicaid, have increased by 38 percent, and housing assistance by 48 percent.

Although these entitlement programs have dominated the government’s spending growth, discretionary spending—spending authorized by annual appropriations bills—also has grown by 40 percent more than inflation, to $1.289 trillion. Spending on non-defense programs has grown 29 percent. These outlays peaked in 2010 due to the stimulus bill, but remain 7 percent higher than their pre-stimulus level of 2008.

The result of this increasing deficit spending—which is financed by borrowing—is growing debt. If current policies continue, debt held by the public will approach 90 percent of total economic output by 2022, and will be twice the size of the entire economy 25 years from now.

There is still time to change course—but that time is growing short. The Heritage Foundation’s budget plan, Saving the American Dream,[2] reforms entitlements to make them affordable and sustainable, reins in other spending while adequately funding defense, and balances the budget in 10 years. The budget can be put on a stable, sustainable course if policymakers act soon.

Overall Budget Trends

■Over the past 20 years, federal spending grew 71 percent faster than inflation.

■Entitlement spending more than doubled over the past 20 years, growing by 110 percent (after adjusting for inflation). Discretionary spending grew by 60 percent.

■Deficits have pushed up the debt each year since 2002 as federal spending exceeded revenue. Fiscal year 2012 marked the fourth consecutive year of $1 trillion deficits.

■Although debt held by the public surged from 33.6 percent of gross domestic product in 2002 to 73 percent in 2012, net interest costs have held below 2 percent of GDP because interest rates have fallen to all-time lows.

■In 1962, defense spending was nearly half the total federal budget (49 percent); Social Security and other mandatory programs were less than one-third of the budget (31 percent). Two major entitlement programs, Medicaid and Medicare, were signed into law by President Johnson in 1965.

■In 2012 entitlements were nearly 62 percent of total spending, while defense dropped to less than one-fifth (18.7 percent) of the budget.

LLS

23 posted on 01/02/2013 11:33:29 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Without space... we will all be speaking chinese in 20 years.

With spending on Space, we will be speaking Chinese even sooner.....although you have some valid points in your posts.


24 posted on 01/02/2013 11:53:59 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: chessplayer

hmmm...looks like mr. gallup was intrigued by my screen
name and tagline.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 12:33:14 PM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: chessplayer

When the world is running down/
you make the best of what’s still around

Just like when Carter roamed the earth.
I never thought I’d say it, but I wish he was prez.


26 posted on 01/02/2013 12:42:18 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: LibLieSlayer

-— I am 58 and I would give up BOTH if the government would GTF out of my life. -—

I’m with you.

Our slogan: GTGTFOOML Catchy!


27 posted on 01/02/2013 12:50:28 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: chessplayer

Merle said it best... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxLtXJzo3Ew


28 posted on 01/02/2013 1:26:12 PM PST by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: Tenacious 1
they'll wonder where the next gift is coming from.

Don't be too surprised when they come at the other 50% with malicious intent.

Keep yyour powder dry,
GtG

29 posted on 01/02/2013 1:50:58 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS


30 posted on 01/02/2013 1:57:04 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Buckeye McFrog
You underestimate President Cloward-Piven's competence at being incompetent.

And, the current state of Europe. We are sitting on a house of cards. And, so is the European Union. It could be 2013 or 2023.

31 posted on 01/02/2013 2:08:59 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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