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Handcuffed teen, Lamon Khiry Haslip, shot and killed by police in southern California
CBS News ^ | 01/02/2013 | By Julia Dahl

Posted on 01/02/2013 11:21:08 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

An 18-year-old California man was shot dead by police last week while he was handcuffed and on the ground. Police say he was carrying a loaded handgun.

According to a statement issued by the Riverside County Sheriff's Department, officers responded to a "gang-related 'man with a gun'" call in Moreno Valley at 8:38 p.m. on Friday, Dec. 28.

~snip~

The sheriff's statement continues: "As this was occurring, an additional officer arrived on scene and observed the subject roll onto his side. The initial officer backed away from the subject and announced that the subject had a gun, at which time an officer involved shooting occurred."

The deceased has been identified as Lamon Khiry Haslip, 18, of Ontario, Calif.

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1 posted on 01/02/2013 11:21:15 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

How the h3ll can a handcuffed man, hands behind his back, even use a firearm with any accuracy?

To say that something stinks here is an understatement.

A cop that wanted to shoot someone for the thrill sounds more like what happened. If so, put him/her on death row and fasttrack the appeals process.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 11:24:38 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Responsibility2nd

^^ an officer involved shooting occurred ^^

Cop speak for they capped him.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 11:24:48 AM PST by wrench (I want my country back)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Wondering if the guy had been cuffed already if he hadn’t been patted down, and any weapon taken from him. Quite curious.

I have to go shopping in Moreno Valley today. Leaving now. SHEESH!


4 posted on 01/02/2013 11:26:55 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: wrench

Murder 1. QED.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 11:27:23 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: Responsibility2nd
He has a gun = kill him.

Another way to persuade citizens to give up their guns.

6 posted on 01/02/2013 11:27:41 AM PST by DManA
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To: txnativegop
There is no accuracy requirement in self defense.
7 posted on 01/02/2013 11:27:52 AM PST by Domangart
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To: Domangart

Where was the gun? in the kids’ waistband? Did they not frisk himn for weapons before handcuffing him?

Something is not right about this story — as reported, it gives the appearance of a cop killing a citizen without cause.

That is the only conclusion that can be reached unless there is additional information that has not been released.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 11:32:40 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Responsibility2nd

As the perp swung the gun he accidentally caught a bunch of the arresting officer’s leg hairs in the action.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 11:34:09 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good thing he wasnt walking his dog.


10 posted on 01/02/2013 11:34:38 AM PST by bikerman (What ever happens from now is all OBAMA's fault. Obama lied,economy died)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Im witholding judgement till I find out if the guy was an American or a registered Democrat.....

We are in a USA now...........


11 posted on 01/02/2013 11:34:47 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Responsibility2nd
at which time an officer involved shooting occurred...

Could have been totally innocent on behalf of the officer, where their gun accidentally "goes off"...

12 posted on 01/02/2013 11:34:53 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Domangart

The story doesn’t say, did the cuffed suspect have a gun or not?

There must be a slew of details missing or ommitted. I tend to give the good guys the benefit of the doubt until more information is available.

But I remain suspicious of the officers even though they killed a gang-banger.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 11:35:46 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Don’t forget this story was printed by CBS.

And we know where their loyalty lies, so to speak.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 11:36:37 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: txnativegop
The only solution to stop cops from killing people is to disarm the cops.

Illinois state senate to propose that next.

15 posted on 01/02/2013 11:37:15 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

All YOU need to know is See B S


16 posted on 01/02/2013 11:38:52 AM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: dartuser

I hope they do because that will be met with a very angry reaction; at least I hope the cops would react that way.

It would be interesting to watch.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 11:39:02 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop
Something is not right about this story — as reported, it gives the appearance of a cop killing a citizen without cause.

The reporter does not care. His purpose is not to inform. It is to get attention to this story and any follow-up stories. Stories that provoke emotions are seen as FAR superior to accurate stories that merely convey facts. (Read ANY journalism textbook. They are explicit about this.)

You misguidedly believe otherwise about the source of the writing. In their eyes, it's clearly your problem, not theirs.

18 posted on 01/02/2013 11:40:10 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Moreno Valley, CA = Meth Capital of So Cal


19 posted on 01/02/2013 11:40:57 AM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: txnativegop
A cop that wanted to shoot someone for the thrill sounds more like what happened.

Probably

If so, put him/her on death row and fasttrack the appeals process.

Like that will ever happen. Let me look into my crystal ball. It will be ruled a "good shoot." Remember police don't have to follow laws like we do. They just have to follow vague and mysterious "departmental guidlines." Which are apparently flexible enough to cover almost everything.

20 posted on 01/02/2013 11:45:04 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Tenacious 1
Yes. They found a gun.

They should have searched the dude post cuffing immediately.

21 posted on 01/02/2013 11:45:04 AM PST by Theoria
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To: FeliciaCat

I am calling BS on this. Reporters have proven time and again that they do not have a clue when it comes to a shooting. They only want the sensationalism and scoop, regardless of accuracy.

I’ll hold judgement until the police department cover it up.


22 posted on 01/02/2013 11:45:42 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t see enough info in the story to make an instant “I hate cops” judgement. Sounds bad from the story, but I’ll wait on this one.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 11:46:15 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: txnativegop

Generally will put you against a wall, frisk you then handcuff you. I can’t imagine just handcuffing, putting on the floor and not checking him for weapons.


24 posted on 01/02/2013 11:46:21 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: from occupied ga

You just had to burst my bubble, didn’t you? I would like to think that what is right still matters; you just threw ice cold water on me. LOL


25 posted on 01/02/2013 11:47:39 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Theoria
Yes. They found a gun.

I would have bet money that they did. Now where the gun came from is something that I would not bet money on giving it about 1:5 that it was he handcuffed guy's and about 4:5 it was planted by the cops.

26 posted on 01/02/2013 11:49:16 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: wiggen

Whether the shoot is righteous or not, this cop should not be allowed to wear a badge after this incident.

D’OH — I forgot about the “thin blue line,” how could I have been so foolish. Silly me.


27 posted on 01/02/2013 11:50:03 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop
A cop that wanted to shoot someone for the thrill sounds more like what happened. If so, put him/her on death row and fasttrack the appeals process.

Not enough facts available at this time to say that with any kind of certainty. Most likely, some moron with a badge had his finger on the trigger and pulled it without even thinking when another cop noticed the suspect's weapon and shouted "he has a gun!" The fact that the citizen most likely wasn't touching his gun wouldn't come into it. Given the general poor gun-handling skills of the majority of cops, it was fortunate for the other officers that they didn't get hit too.

28 posted on 01/02/2013 11:52:37 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: txnativegop
A cop that wanted to shoot someone for the thrill sounds more like what happened.

This could explain it...maybe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv89_3rrW8Y

29 posted on 01/02/2013 11:53:00 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Tenacious 1

Living in NYC i don’t even think of them as the good guys.


30 posted on 01/02/2013 11:53:28 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Lamon, c’mon Man!


31 posted on 01/02/2013 11:55:32 AM PST by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Lamon, c’mon Man!


32 posted on 01/02/2013 11:55:50 AM PST by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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To: from occupied ga
Remember police don't have to follow laws like we do.

Thing is, gang-bangers and meth-heads aren't famous for following the law either.

33 posted on 01/02/2013 11:57:15 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Responsibility2nd

Story doesn’t add up.

He either was cuffed and then shot

or

Shot and then cuffed.

Neither one makes any sense. The “victim” was probably a bad dude, but sounds to me like the cop was out of line either way.


34 posted on 01/02/2013 11:57:38 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

It was poor gun handling skills that brought America the DA auto. Now cops are even f-—ing that up.


35 posted on 01/02/2013 11:57:38 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: wiggen
He was a flight risk. They just chased him down. I suspect they stood up to catch their breath and didn't do a proper search immediately.

Then noticed the gun and overreacted.

36 posted on 01/02/2013 11:59:47 AM PST by Theoria
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To: C210N

LOL...I posted the same link before I saw your post!


37 posted on 01/02/2013 12:00:50 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: txnativegop

Dude i can’t tell you the arguments i’ve had in Freep with people who automatically assume the cops are always right. I don’t see them any different from any other citizen. Is their job more dangerous than mine? No doubt. Do they get well compensated for it? Hell yes.
Fact is a goodly portion join these days for the pay, the pension, the bennies. It’s no longer about ‘doing right’.


38 posted on 01/02/2013 12:05:54 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

leme see..he was in a car that was passingby, then jumped out of the car to flee???? why not just stay in the car and continue to pass by?
doesn’t pass the smell test.


39 posted on 01/02/2013 12:07:21 PM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: txnativegop

Wasn’t he disarmed when they cuffed him?


40 posted on 01/02/2013 12:07:32 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Theoria

“An 18-year-old California man was shot dead by police last week while he was handcuffed and on the ground.”

I would suggest he was much less of a flight risk at that time.


41 posted on 01/02/2013 12:07:57 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I wonder where the slug ended up.

One way to keep everyone loose in a tense situation. Several sets of wet/crapped pants there.


42 posted on 01/02/2013 12:08:26 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: wiggen

Yes. That is correct. The only thing he can do now is vote.


43 posted on 01/02/2013 12:09:01 PM PST by Theoria
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To: txnativegop
...a handcuffed man, hands behind his back, even use a firearm with any accuracy?

Well, there's the old adage about worrying about the bullet with "To whom it may concern" on it.

I would suggest that you watch the "parking lot scene" in the move "Hollywood Homicide".

It's supposedly based on a true incident, according to what I read on IMDB.

44 posted on 01/02/2013 12:09:35 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Responsibility2nd

Were skittles involved?


45 posted on 01/02/2013 12:10:33 PM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: txnativegop

Well at least he didnt shoot 9 innocent bystanders like the NYPD does.


46 posted on 01/02/2013 12:11:33 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No information, no opinion....

“...you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...we must be wary”


47 posted on 01/02/2013 12:12:11 PM PST by petro45acp (More sheepdogs please...)
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To: Responsibility2nd; blackie; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; ExSoldier; DAVEY CROCKETT; Nachum; SJackson; ...
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48 posted on 01/02/2013 12:16:39 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Responsibility2nd

FWIW. This site points out Haslip was a gang-banger.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/01/16281676-handcuffed-california-teen-shot-while-in-police-custody?lite


49 posted on 01/02/2013 12:18:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ozzymandus

I’d wait for the facts to come out too; kinda of like I did with Zimmerman’s story.....


50 posted on 01/02/2013 12:20:14 PM PST by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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