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Does Congress Have the Authority to Tax Americans At Different Rates?
political outcast ^ | 1-2-13 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 01/02/2013 6:18:54 PM PST by TurboZamboni

The 16th Amendment gave the Federal Government the authority and power to tax every citizen. Here’s the wording of the Amendment:

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

Please note that there is no provision in this amendment that Congress is given the right to unequally apply this power. In looking over all the Constitution’s amendments, I don’t see an unequal distribution of either a freedom or limitation.

Equality under the law requires that as each of us stands before the courts or the Constitution, no one should be treated in an unequal way. The law applies to every citizen equally, except, it seems, when it comes to apply the 16th Amendment.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 16th; equality; equalprotection; rates; taxes

1 posted on 01/02/2013 6:19:06 PM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

equality under the law would mean women and miorities weren’t special legally protected classes of people either. nobody does’anything about this.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 6:25:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: TurboZamboni

For those individuals over whom the fedguv exercises jurisdiction, the income tax is applied uniformly. Are you under the personal jurisdiction of the fedguv?


3 posted on 01/02/2013 6:26:31 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

nope.

IMHO, everyone should pay the same rate.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 6:30:02 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni
I think it simply means that two people with exactly the same circumstances would pay the same rates.

You can't have someone with $100K net taxable wages and salary income in Texas assessed at 40%, while someone in Illinois is only assessed 10% on the same $100K.

-PJ

5 posted on 01/02/2013 6:33:17 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: TurboZamboni

..............hell yes they can, they have 5 votes on the Supreme Court...........

over the next 4 years they will likely get 9


6 posted on 01/02/2013 6:36:15 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

the income tax is now all about behavior modification/control now.

act a certain way to pull a certain lever and the rat gets more cheese.


7 posted on 01/02/2013 6:37:37 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Who the hell do you think you are? How dare you question our rulers, and since when does Anything in the Us Constitution have to do with Congress and their wishes?? Speaking of which, where is this supposed document I hear people wine and bitch about?? Does it even exist? or is this another one of those fantasy dreams where you believe you have certain unalienable rights that are self evident and absolute and cannot be infringed upon? Do you really believe that?? Prepare for induction to your local re-education facility, cuz with thoughts like that you will become a Target to our Rulers. Peasant Serfs DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS, got it.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 6:39:09 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: TurboZamboni

You missed the “from each according to their ability” clause. Obama swears it exists.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 6:40:49 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Liberalism 101:

I'm for higher taxes for “the rich,” defined as those that make more than me.

I'm for abortion, but sure am glad I'm here.

I'm for banning anything, such as ATV’s, guns, cross country biking, hunting, skiing, owning “attack dogs,” scuba diving, big cars, for speed limits, against sugar, fat, soft drinks in schools, homeschooling, helmet-less motorbiking, smoking, Christian symbols in public places... as long as you don't ban what “I” like to do!

I'm against the death penalty, but it would be rude and inconsiderate to ask me what I would want done to someone that murdered my wife after they had raped her.

I'm for legalizing drugs, but don't want my son taking them.

I think prostitution should be legalized, but don't want my daughter being one.

I support socialized health care and the rationing of care, but if I bump my head I want that MRI.

I think people should adjust their thermostat to 68F in the winter and 78 in the summer to save the planet, but I'll live in a 20,000 square foot mansion heated and cooled to 71 all year around- in fact I'll fly around the world in my private jet to tell you how you need to cut back!

Get the drift here?

In a liberals mind there is no principal other than some egalitarian and pure hedonism. Words like fairness, diversity, open minded, and these eco scams are their lingo and causes. They are not concerned in the truth, i.e. consistency, nor creating wealth. Equality, security and maximizing their own pleasure in this short term is all that matters.

10 posted on 01/02/2013 6:42:14 PM PST by Red6
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To: Cen-Tejas
The original AlQaida plan was to take out both the White House and the Congress with simultaneous airplane attacks. They had backups to their plan with an apparent attempt to assassinate George Bush in Florida, and most likely with an Anthrax attack on the federal bureaucracy and CapitolHill complexes and offices.

No doubt there were numerous other things they had in mind but did you ever hear of what they wanted to do to the Supreme Court?

Are the actors who were going to do the court still in place ready to strike at a moment's notice?

We are not going to be doing a NOH theater performance that starts with a ghost and ends up with a single judge ~ but there will be something and its unlikely the USSC will be reconstituted any time soon after that.

11 posted on 01/02/2013 6:43:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TurboZamboni
Yeah, but Obama can't waive income taxes for residents of Illinois or double the income taxes for Texans, the way he's waiving Obamacare for friendlies.

-PJ

12 posted on 01/02/2013 6:43:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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13 posted on 01/02/2013 6:55:36 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Asking whether such-and-such is constitutional is pretty meaningless given that our federal government hasn’t played by those rules for a century or more depending on who you ask.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 7:09:50 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar
Asking whether such-and-such is constitutional is pretty meaningless given that our federal government hasn’t played by those rules for a century or more depending on who you ask.

Exactly. If this guy gets this excited about the 16th amendment, someone should show him Article I, section 8--It'll blow his mind! (Though the ruling council has considered virtually everything "regulating interstate commerce", for a very long time)

15 posted on 01/02/2013 7:52:20 PM PST by aLurker
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To: TurboZamboni

I’m don’t claim to know anything about constitutional law, but it is very evident that congress, with the support of the US Supreme Court, is free to ignore the US Constitution. The Robert’s court has made that abundantly clear. We are living in a time of utter lawlessness.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 8:17:38 PM PST by Nemoque
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To: TurboZamboni

You had said “IMHO, everyone should pay the same rate.”

In my never to be humble opinion, everyone should pay the same AMOUNT. Why should I, or anyone else pay more to run the government than any other citizen does. That is patently unfair. The cost of the government should be borne equally by all citizens equally.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 8:40:25 PM PST by cyberstoic
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To: andyk
For those individuals over whom the fedguv exercises jurisdiction, the income tax is applied uniformly. Are you under the personal jurisdiction of the fedguv?

If you really think that makes sense....
...put down that crack pipe and step back!

18 posted on 01/02/2013 9:29:39 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: TurboZamboni

Where do you think you are? In a Constitutional Republic or something???


19 posted on 01/02/2013 9:35:15 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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To: TurboZamboni
Obama wants to tax Republicans and give the money to democRats.
20 posted on 01/03/2013 3:28:47 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: TurboZamboni; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

Unfortunately it doesn’t say it can’t be unequal either.


21 posted on 01/03/2013 4:45:18 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy

There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them equal.
— F.A. Hayek


22 posted on 01/03/2013 5:05:22 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: publius911

Lol! Just curious - which part is confusing, my assertion that the income tax is applied uniformly, or the question about whether you are under the personal jurisdiction of the fedguv?


23 posted on 01/03/2013 7:28:27 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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