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Obama wants ban on assault weapons - ‘Skeptical’ about idea of guns in schools
Washington Times ^ | December 30, 2012 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 01/02/2013 6:52:11 PM PST by neverdem

The national debate over gun control may have been pushed to the back burner in favor of the “fiscal cliff” battle, but President Obama remains committed to confronting the issue no matter the resistance from gun owners and the National Rifle Association.

In a rare appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, Mr. Obama expressed strong support for a reinstatement of the federal ban on assault weapons, outlawing high-capacity clips and a better system of background checks for those seeking to buy firearms.

He’s long supported those ideas, as have many Democrats, but the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., has taken the conversation to new heights.

“That was the worst day of my presidency and it’s not something I want to see repeated,” Mr. Obama said of the massacre, which claimed the lives of 20 first-graders and seven adults, before the killer, Adam Lanza, shot himself.

The tragedy immediately ignited strong emotions from both sides of the gun debate. Democrats quickly clamored for stricter gun laws, citing Newtown as the last straw in a string of other mass killings including those in Aurora, Colo., and Oak Creek, Wis.

The NRA, a prime target of those seeking to limit gun rights, responded with its own plan to put armed security guards at every school in the United States. Several prominent Republicans, including Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, have suggested arming teachers as a last line of defense.

Mr. Obama, while not flatly rejecting those plans, does not appear open to them.

“I’m not going to prejudge the recommendations that are given to me,” Mr. Obama said. “I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools.”...

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David Gregory’s children attend the private Sidwell Friends School in Washington D.C., which is not a gun-free zone. The Sidwell school has 11 armed guards.

President Obama’s daughters also attend Sidwell.

1 posted on 01/02/2013 6:52:18 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Protection for ME, but not thee.

F U B O !


2 posted on 01/02/2013 6:55:11 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

The president of utter nonsense.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 6:58:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: neverdem

Republicans need to say this is DOA and let obama scream.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 6:58:17 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: neverdem
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5 posted on 01/02/2013 7:00:18 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: neverdem

How about we put a ban on murdering negroes and mexicans instead? That would definitely be more effective at reducing murder and crime in general.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 7:06:32 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: neverdem

.!


7 posted on 01/02/2013 7:10:44 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: neverdem

I wonder if there have been any protests over the guns at Sidwell Friends school. (Cindy Sheehan, perhaps?)

And I wonder what would happen to any protestors.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 7:15:54 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: neverdem
Dr. Suzanna Hupp Testimony (Better Quality) to Congress on the Second Amendment

The last few seconds are priceless!

9 posted on 01/02/2013 7:16:32 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2banana

If the house GOP brings any gun control bill to the floor ever, I will be f’in pissed off and that is when I will truly turn off my spigot of support to them. It should not only be DOA, it is be DBA (dead before arrival).


10 posted on 01/02/2013 7:17:01 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: neverdem

So Obama doesn’t like armed guards in schools but has NO problem with his own kids being protected by 11 armed guards..without hypocrisy liberals wouldn’t have anything left..hypocrisy is all they know


11 posted on 01/02/2013 7:22:16 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: neverdem

He can go F his big eared self. Assault rifles (as they are called) are my ultimate protection against being murdered by my government. If they try it, they likely can do it, but it will come with a nasty price.

When someone can guarantee it would never happen here, we can talk. But remember, in 1913, Germany was a civilized nation. Education was probably the best in Europe. It had more citizens who could vote _by far_than either France or England. Jews were respected citizens fully sprinked throughout society. It was the home quite literally of poets and philosophers. Protestants, Catholics, and Jews all had thriving churches.

If someone then had informed them that in three decades, they would murder 6 million Jews in death factories, and would work hard to locate and murder every Jew in France, Holland, Poland, Ukraine, etc, they would have been thought of as some kind of crank or nut.

Nobody can promise me that a holocaust is not in Americas future. Even today, the papers had one article that the constitution should be abandoned, and another NRA members should be executed and that the GOP leaders of the House and Senate should be murdered like James Byrd in Texas, dragged behind a pickup.
Substitute “Jews”, “Tutsis”, “Amenians”, “Kulaks” for “NRA members” and the old nasty theme becomes clear.

It’s a special irony that at the moment Obama becomes more and more totalitarian, (ergo,,an existential threat) he wants us to disarm.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 7:22:55 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: neverdem

I would love to hear nobama’s definition of an assault rifle.

Let me guess: “If it looks scary.” LOL!

Hell, any weapon can be used to assault someone. Even non-weapons like a pickaxe qualify.

Buncha BS.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 7:29:38 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: neverdem

Meanwhile, hundreds of Mexicans and two U.S. Border Patrol agents were killed because of Obama’s and Holder’s “Fast and Furious” gun running to Mexico.

And he wants to lecture the NRA? What unmitigated arrogance.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 7:29:44 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: neverdem
With the imbeciles running congress and an oxymoron ensconced in the Oval Office, there is not enough brain power in Washington to blow a hat off of a gnat. Expect the worst and they won't disappoint you.
15 posted on 01/02/2013 7:31:07 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If all trees were money trees, Obama would still spend it faster than they can leaf out.)
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To: neverdem

It is plain to see that they lack respect for constitutional law, their oath to support and defend it, the people and their rights, and consider themselves elevated to the standing of rulers over them. No amount of pleading, whether oral or written, will deter them from their course as they see themselves empowered by the votes which allowed them to occupy high office.

I have no respect for them or their unconstitutional edicts. That is as it should and will be until such time as they are removed from office and replaced by their betters. I have written representatives before citing law, common sense and logic. Agenda trumps all three and they are pursuing an agenda. What we are watching now is a badly produced sequel of a very old drama. I know how this ends and so do you. So I will just lurk here to see which way the winds are blowing, await the pop-flares and offer a comment or three.

Good luck to you all.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 7:35:05 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: DesertRhino

Amen!!


17 posted on 01/02/2013 7:35:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

Coming soon: Taxpayer subsidized snitch cash incentives with every free Obamaphone. The snitch line will be pre-programmed for one touch dialing.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 7:41:39 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: neverdem

...so the President who gave “assault weapons” to Mexican drug gangs now wants to deny them to US citizens?


19 posted on 01/02/2013 7:41:50 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: neverdem

I think a ban on drug abusing, foreign, anti-American, Marxist homosexuals as president would serve America better.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 7:41:50 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: neverdem

Ah- my son’s public school is guarded by two armed police officers- and our local government passed a law that teachers and parents are allowed to have guns in a lock box, on school grounds.

Obama can sit and spin.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 7:42:02 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: Candor7

“I am the person whom you serve.”

YES!!

Term limits to stop this foolishness.


22 posted on 01/02/2013 7:49:13 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: neverdem

F U B O !


23 posted on 01/02/2013 7:55:59 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: neverdem

Anne Frank’s family was in an Apartment. The entrance was extremely small. A person had to stoop to enter. The small squad of one Nazi cop and a few Dutch cops, could have been wiped out with one carefully thought out ambush using one 30 round mag.

With a single AR or AK, it would have been completely possible to have killed them all. Even a Remington 870 could have done fine. The family could have left and vanished out a backdoor. Very possible they could have got away.
And if they didn’t, such goings on would have meant that the Nazi police force in Amsterdam would have had to do such investigations much more tactically, with more officers, and with better weapons. This would have taxed the murder machine further. Any participant in such a murder enterprise that is targeted slows the bureacracy, the more, and the more scattered through the machinery, the better.
Anne’s family needed an AK.


24 posted on 01/02/2013 8:01:12 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Candor7

Excellent....

... but she won’t give a damn.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 8:08:25 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: upchuck

“If it looks scary.”

LOL.... she should see what all I am trying to do to my new 870 12 GA Remington. ;>)


26 posted on 01/02/2013 8:15:44 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: neverdem

We are living in a time in which emotions are elevated above reason. Making rational arguments are a thing for past generations. This whole issue of gun control is based upon the emotions surrounding the killing of school children. The fact that all the gun laws in the world wouldn’t have prevented this slaughter is dismissed. You can’t reason with people that refuse to use reason.


27 posted on 01/02/2013 8:39:58 PM PST by Nemoque
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To: indianrightwinger
I will truly turn off my spigot of support to them.

I wish I could turn off my spigot again but I welded the thing shut after John McCain.

28 posted on 01/02/2013 9:01:19 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: indianrightwinger

Me too FRiend.

I will also work against any GOP candidate who voted for the ban, and any who have worked with said candidate in the past.


29 posted on 01/02/2013 9:03:50 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: neverdem

“I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools.”...

Zero likes to conflate issues and here he gives a `false choice’.

Guarding school children from harm—what I’m sure the `Party of the People’ considers to be the brats of the great unwashed masses—while their own precious issue have real futures with made-up jobs as television freaks, duh!—is the goal.

“Putting more guns in schools” (and that’s nice way to put it, hmm?) is just one of many possible solutions.

But it appears to makes the most sense over many proposals, particularly in that Obama and other Democrats haven’t objected to their own children’s safety secured due to putting guns in schools.

Of course, because it appears to the average guy be a reasonable proposal it stands in the way of their gun confiscation agenda: `There’s a crisis here and time’s a wastin’!

Gee, he’s “skeptical”. Why can’t we just ban guns, criminalize and thereby prevent 300 million Americans from legally owning firearms—in derogation of the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution?

And if we don’t agree with them, then you know the drill: We masses/proles must be too damned stupid to understand that it’s for our own good, or, “You know what? Maybe I didn’t explain everything adequately or misspoke myself or ... “ blah blah blah blah blah blah

It’s a standing invitation, `rats: Come and get them.


30 posted on 01/02/2013 9:07:13 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Gator113

Take a look at the Mesa Tactical LEO Telescoping Recoil Stock Kit (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=641809 - Order number: WX2-182687).

Reference: http://www.gunworld.com/buyers-guides/taming-the-tiger-some-innovative-ways-reduce-12-gauge-recoil/


31 posted on 01/02/2013 9:17:17 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: neverdem

The petition is still chugging along.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-armed-guards-president-vice-president-and-their-families-and-establish-gun-free-zones/6RDGkxLK


32 posted on 01/02/2013 9:36:00 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: neverdem

Gun ban? Really??

Two word, seven letters, three “F” ‘s.


33 posted on 01/02/2013 10:27:40 PM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: upchuck

“I would love to hear nobama’s definition of an assault rifle.”

It’s pretty simple. Anything other than a bolt action rifle will be registered and eventually confiscated.


34 posted on 01/02/2013 10:36:39 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: MurrietaMadman

LOL! Thanks for the link.


35 posted on 01/02/2013 10:40:41 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Why of course It makes perfect for the tyrant to ban obstacles

to his goal of tyranny.

36 posted on 01/03/2013 12:22:05 AM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: neverdem
"Mr. Obama expressed strong support for a reinstatement of the federal ban on assault weapons..."

There is no generally accepted objective definition of "assault weapons" - it is a made up term. (as opposed to "assault rifles" which are specifically defined and are already illegal to own for the majority of Americans.) Thus, Obama just wants to ban as many guns as possible by arbitrarily labeling them as "assault weapons".

37 posted on 01/03/2013 2:03:42 AM PST by circlecity
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To: upchuck
“If it looks scary.”

The solution is to paint them all pink.

38 posted on 01/03/2013 4:40:56 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
The solution is to paint them all pink.

Like this?

39 posted on 01/03/2013 5:03:25 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: upchuck

Definitely not scary. Very friendly looking, too. That does for the gun, too.


40 posted on 01/03/2013 5:32:46 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: DesertRhino

One guy with an AK could hold up a whole company of soldiers until they could root him out.


41 posted on 01/03/2013 6:51:33 AM PST by USAF80
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To: EdReform

You’re a mindreader!!

I have been researching the “shock stock” and trying to find one for about a week.

When I get done, my HD shotgun will look and be set up much like this one in this video.

After my second cup of coffee this morning, I am going to call and talk to the folks at the link your sent me... thanks.

I want it to include Hough grips and Magpul butt stock that is shown on the vid that I posted, but in the crazy buying frenzy that has been going on, I haven’t been able to find exactly what I want, so I have decided too join the craziness and take anything I can get.

Cheers.....


42 posted on 01/03/2013 10:00:06 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: EdReform

BTW... I have taken that “Oath” several times in my life and I plan to keep it. While I am unable to be active, I the joined Oath Keepers and made a donation a long time ago. ;>)

Stay Safe....


43 posted on 01/03/2013 10:13:04 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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