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24-Year-Old Jew Murdered in Iran- 24-year-old Daniel Magrufta, who was dating the daughter
inn ^ | 1/2/13 | Elad Benari

Posted on 01/02/2013 8:35:37 PM PST by Nachum

A 24-year-old Iranian Jew, a member of one the most well-known and wealthiest families in Iran, was murdered last week, Channel 2 News reported on Wednesday.

According to the report the man, who was identified as Daniel Magrufta, was dating the daughter of a member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

The report added that it was at first believed that Magrufta was murdered during a robbery at his home, but no evidence indicating that his home had been broken into was found.

The woman whom Magrufta was dating was reportedly arrested on suspicion of being responsible for the murder but was released without being indicted. Members of the Jewish community in Iran told Channel 2 News that the investigators reportedly told the woman that “if you were involved in killing a Jew, you did a good deed.”

The incident comes just over one month after a Jewish woman was murdered by Muslim extremists intent on taking away her home. The brutal killing took place in the city of Isfahan, today home to fewer than 100 Jewish families.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; irg; israel; jew; magrufta; murdered; religionofpieces; waronterror
Full title: 24-Year-Old Jew Murdered in Iran 24-year-old Daniel Magrufta, who was dating the daughter of a member of the Revolutionary Guards, was murdered in Iran.
1 posted on 01/02/2013 8:35:44 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Darwin award winner for January.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 8:36:45 PM PST by gotribe
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To: Nachum

Any Jews still living in Muslim countries are forgetting their history. Christians in those countries are also to be worried.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 8:47:15 PM PST by expat2
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To: gotribe

Yea ... I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he must have had carbon steel balls forged in hell but dating the daughter of a revolutionary guard member might fall into Darwin Award territory.

Still though, forgive me here ladies, I hope he made her Dad VERY angry . . . if you catch my drift.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 8:58:05 PM PST by ruiner
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To: Nachum

Beyond my comprehension to reason why a wealthy Jewish family elects to remain in Iran.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 8:58:20 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Nachum

Every Jew in Iran should’ve been evacuated in 1979. RIP.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 9:02:47 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: onyx
Beyond my comprehension to reason why a wealthy Jewish family elects to remain in Iran.

It is hard to leave the life one knows. Especially if the family has resources.

7 posted on 01/02/2013 9:15:44 PM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Blaming the woman for his murder...yea, this is what I expect from that hellhole. I feel for her right now.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 9:16:44 PM PST by ladyellen
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To: onyx

Somebody has to handle all those cash transactions with the banks in England.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 9:27:15 PM PST by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012! Allez Pack!)
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To: ladyellen; Nachum

There have been cases where the victim has been lured into thinking the Muslim finds him/her interesting or attractive and sets up a date/dates. Given the environment in which this took place, it would seem not at all unlikely that she might have had something to do with his murder.


10 posted on 01/02/2013 9:35:05 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Nachum
"Sampson, I'd like you to meet Delilah."


11 posted on 01/02/2013 10:08:54 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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To: expat2

Any Jews still living in Muslim countries are forgetting their history.

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I believe I know whence you come with your comment, but you are aware that the history of the Jews in Iran goes back some 2700 years, are you not?

There were Jews in Iran before Iran went Muslim, and I suspect there will be Jews in Iran when Iran ditches Islam the same way it ditched Zoroastrianism.

That said, I agree with you on this point: If I am a wealthy Jew living in Iran, I head for Canada, the US, Australia, Brazil, et al, ASAP.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 10:38:14 PM PST by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now; ladyellen

Statistics say that a romantic partner is quite likely to also be a murder suspect. But looking at this case overall, I suspect her family.


13 posted on 01/03/2013 12:36:46 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: onyx
Beyond my comprehension to reason why a wealthy Jewish family elects to remain in Iran...

Lured by a schizophrenic madman: one minute wanting to wipe jews off the face of the map, the minute after having a conference with jews...


14 posted on 01/03/2013 12:39:08 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: expat2

wrong. Jews have been living in Iran since 500 BC or even earlier


15 posted on 01/03/2013 2:14:30 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: man_in_tx; odds

they didn’t ditch Zoroastrianism. Over 1400 years, they were slowly converted — much of the time by force, other times by coercion or by avarice. the same happened in Christian Egypt and Syria and Turkey and in Hindu Sindh and Punjab and in Buddhist Afghanistan etc.


16 posted on 01/03/2013 2:16:49 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: onyx
Beyond my comprehension to reason why a wealthy Jewish family elects to remain in Iran.

Because they don't want to give everything they own and have worked to build for generations to those savages. Same thing happened in Germany. I've known quite a few Iranians, most of them were perfectly decent people. Their country is in the hands of the worst and most viscous fanatics. Iran doesn't have medieval cathedrals decorated with Judensau. I suspect that the average Iranian is far less antisemitic than the average German or the average Arab. I spent 16 months in Shermany, and it was not at all unusual for people one meets on the train or in passing to go wander off into antisemitic babble. You barely need to scratch an Arab to be scalded by steaming antisemitism. I never got that from any Iranian I have known.

17 posted on 01/03/2013 2:31:09 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: man_in_tx; Cronos

Sure, and lots of Jews had been living in Germany for many years before the 1930s.......


18 posted on 01/03/2013 7:20:34 AM PST by expat2
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Nachum.
The incident comes just over one month after a Jewish woman was murdered by Muslim extremists intent on taking away her home.
"Extremists" my ass -- they're merely defending themselves against an unarmed woman who would still be alive if Israel didn't have a nuclear weapons monopoly in the Middle East and occupy Palestine. /s


19 posted on 01/03/2013 7:22:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Cronos; man_in_tx; expat2; BlackVeil; Nachum

Cronos: thanks for the ping.

Firstly, let me say that I know for a fact, that after the 1979 “Islamic Revolution” in Iran (aka Khomeinist Revolution), the so-called “religious minorities” in Iran were, continuously, attacked in all sorts of ways. Whilst the attacks have become “less obvious”, they continue to date.

The above mentioned treatment included the Christians (of all denominations), the Bahais, the Jews and those of practicing, officially known to belong to the Zoroastrian faith. The last 3 mentioned religious groups in particular, and they all, by nationality, are & have been Iranians. I should mention similar treatment has applied, very often, to Sunni and also non 12er Shia sect Iranian muslims, namely, Sufi Muslims in Iran.

The mentioned attacks (often officially sanctioned), nowadays, mostly & mainly, are carried out in the form of discrimination. Murder, however, still takes place, either directly and/or through coercion.

The Bahais, Jews and Zoroastrians are particularly discriminated against, to date, for housing, employment and education opportunities, as only few examples.

Blackveil: I am unsure of your Iranian connection. But I’ve noted for past 2 years at least on FR, that you seem to, directly or indirectly, support various actions of the Islamic government & their sympathizers in Iran, in your related comments on FR.

Whether the particular person mentioned in the article was murdered by his family is uncertain, in my opinion. However, I do know for certain that since 1979, more than a few Jews, Zoroastrians and Bahais have been publicly humiliated, murdered, and/or physically threatened & harmed, by the unofficial and/or official Islamic Republic government lackeys, representatives and sympathizers in Iran. And, I am speaking of those BORN into the mentioned faiths, not conversions.

Yazd and Kerman provinces in Iran (where many Zoroastrians have lived since the Islamic invasion of Iran centuries ago) were a handful of first places the so-called “Islamic/Khomeinist revolutionaries) attacked, arresting, beating, intimidating and murdering even & especially children of Iranian-Zoroastrians. I know of actual cases.


20 posted on 01/04/2013 12:30:00 AM PST by odds
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To: odds
Hi Odds.

Learn to read. I wrote:

But looking at this case overall, I suspect her family.

You wrote:

Whether the particular person mentioned in the article was murdered by his family is uncertain, in my opinion ...

That is not a well informed opinion. If there were any grounds at all for suspecting his family, the Iranian police would have them under arrest. Instead, they questioned and then released the girlfriend.

21 posted on 01/04/2013 12:52:13 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Nachum

Here’s a dumb question but why are Arabs so anti Semitic? Especially Arabs who aren’t even close to Israel/Palenstine?


22 posted on 01/04/2013 1:18:11 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: BlackVeil

Thank you for pointing out a typo “his family” as opposed to “her family”.

As I said in #20 in this thread: “Blackveil: I am unsure of your Iranian connection. But I’ve noted for past 2 years at least on FR, that you seem to, directly or indirectly, support various actions of the Islamic government & their sympathizers in Iran, in your related comments on FR.”

Learn to not divert attention from the main issue.


23 posted on 01/04/2013 1:31:17 AM PST by odds
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To: odds
But I do not see how my post was supporting the Iranian govt or their sympathisers in Iran. We are told in the article, that Daniel Magrufta, was dating the daughter of a member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. I commented that I think her family are suspects in his murder. It seems obvious to me that they have a motive. I am not saying I am certain of their guilt.

You seem to have misread my post, and assumed I was accussing the Magrufta family themselves of being behind his murder.

As for Iran, I try to be well informed, and to cut through the propaganda. I have discerned several false stories and expressed skepticism. Things like reports that Pastor Nadarkhani had been executed - I suggested one wait on official confirmation for that.

If you were to ask me what is the greatest font of evil in the Middle East I would say Saudi Arabia, and also their nuclear armed ally Pakistan. That is my view, and I am happy to debate it, but not on this thread.

24 posted on 01/04/2013 7:01:11 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil; Cronos

No, I didn’t misread your post #13 in this thread.

As I previously highlighted (twice), in a separate paragraph addressed specifically to you, my statement in post #20 was regarding your comments over the past 2 yrs at least on FR regarding Iran. — Examples include: your post(s) about Sangsar (stoning to death), Cyrus’ Cylinder being returned to Iran based on demands from the Islamic Republic regime, which doesn’t and has given a damn about pre-Islamic history of Iran (unless it somehow benefits them), to Christmas decorations in Mash’d, which can only imply how tolerant the Islamic Republic is of other religions & religious minorities in Iran.

As for you thinking “the greatest front of evil in the Middle East are KSA & a nuclear armed Pakistan”, personally I wouldn’t dispute. However, the Islamic Republic in Iran, their minions and sympathizers, are in no way, less evil than the mentioned - chips off the same old block.

And, for anyone trying to point out the Shia and Sunni conflict (outside Iran), I’d suggest they read up on the Palestinians, and why the Islamic Republic continues to support them when Palestinians, as a rule, are predominantly Sunnis, but they are (not all of course) partners in crime with the Islamic Republic regime in Iran & have been since 1979.

Cronos: I’m pinging you for information.


25 posted on 01/06/2013 5:09:35 AM PST by odds
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which doesn’t and has given = hasn’t given..


26 posted on 01/06/2013 5:16:26 AM PST by odds
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
well, the right term would be anti-Jewish as Arabs are Semites

The reason is that any land which has been conquered by Islam cannot be released back -- it is "haram", evil. Which is why Islam covets Al-Andalus (Spain) and India and Israel

27 posted on 01/07/2013 1:41:31 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: odds
I cannot understand any reason why my comment that the family of the young lady, in this case, must be suspects in the murder, would be controversial. They have a motive which hits one in the eye. I said suspects, no more than that. Nothing is proven.

But you also object to Cyrus’ Cylinder being returned to Iran based on demands from the Islamic Republic regime, The return of such a significant antique is vastly popular with Iranian people in general. The British should not be allowed to take things. Ask any Greek person about the Elgin Marbles ... to Christmas decorations in Mash’d, which can only imply how tolerant the Islamic Republic is of other religions ... It could imply lots of things, including, simply that this is a spectacle, from the city of Meshed, very significant in Persian heritage. Many people like those pictures. Also, many people have the impression that Christmas decorations are banned in Iran, as they are in some other countries and cities of the Middle East. So the pics are informative. I don't know what thread you mean about stoning, but I did express skepticism about the case being publicised by the media - of a women sentenced to death - I suggested that I did not think she would be executed. And in fact she has not been.

28 posted on 01/08/2013 3:27:12 PM PST by BlackVeil
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