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Belleville chief bans officers from Denny’s; detectives were asked to leave for displaying gun
Belleville News-Democrat ^ | Jan. 2, 2013 | Jamie Forsythe

Posted on 01/03/2013 4:41:47 AM PST by Lawgvr1955

Police Chief William Clay has banned all on-duty police officers from eating at Denny's Restaurant on South Illinois Street after a detective was asked to remove her gun or leave the restaurant.

"All sworn (uniformed/non-uniformed) officers have been prohibited from entering Denny's Restaurant at 1130 South Illinois for any meal or coffee breaks while on duty," Clay said in a released statement. "Additionally, no officers may enter the restaurant off-duty if in uniform."

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Unbelievable
1 posted on 01/03/2013 4:42:01 AM PST by Lawgvr1955
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To: Lawgvr1955

From the gun grabbing State of Illinois.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 4:43:19 AM PST by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Lawgvr1955
"Nice restaurant you got heah.."

" 'Be a shame if sump'n was to happen to it..."

3 posted on 01/03/2013 4:43:46 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Lawgvr1955

Hoplophobia?

An employee or a patron?

Or the manager?


4 posted on 01/03/2013 4:45:02 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Ah...

Here’s the rest of the story. It was a patron supposedly -


“Sax said the other four detectives initially thought Rice was joking with the female detective until she told Rice that she was a police officer and that all persons present at the table were police officers.

According to police, Rice stated he had a complaint from another customer about the weapon and she had to take the weapon outside or leave. Other detectives advised Rice they were on-duty Belleville police detectives.

Sax said the manager responded stating that company policy stated that only officers in uniform may have weapons. Rice went on to state there was a sign on the door indicating weapons were only allowed in the restaurant if officers were in uniform.

The detectives asked Rice whether he wanted them to stop eating and they were told they could take their food with them. Sax said the detectives advised the manager they would not leave weapons outside while on duty and stood up to leave.

As the detectives were leaving the restaurant, Sax said General Manager Michael Van walked up and advised Rice it was fine for the detectives to be in the restaurant.

“At this point, the detectives were embarrassed and felt the situation was entirely too awkward for them to remain and all left the restaurant,” Sax said.

Sax said there was no sign posted on the door of the restaurant stating police officers must be in uniform if they have a weapon.

At the time of the incident, three of the detectives had their badges clipped on their belt next to their duty weapon, and the other two had their badges hanging from a chain around their neck, all in plain sight, according to Sax. There were also several portable police radios on the table since the detectives were working so they could continue to monitor other police activities.

Clay was notified by Captain John Moody, chief of investigations, about the incident at about 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, which was a holiday.

“This was an insult, a slap in the face, to those detectives and to all of the men and women who proudly wear the uniform or badge and serve in law enforcement,” Clay said. “This individual (Rice) was the manager of Denny’s. He therefore speaks for Denny’s in my mind.

“This policy effectively prohibits on-duty sworn police officers from dining in a Denny’s Restaurant, but allows ‘registered sex offenders,’ ‘felons’ and or ‘pedophiles’ to enjoy a dining experience in Denny’s,” he said. “While I am appalled at this policy, I am sadly not shocked by it. We see so much political stupidness carried out in this day and age. I am hopeful that this incident reflects on the poor judgment of one individual and not the Denny’s restaurant chain.”

Word about the incident involving the Belleville police detectives circulated rapidly Tuesday and Wednesday on social media sites such as Facebook.

“I had hoped to meet privately with members of Denny’s management on a regional level to discuss this policy and share our views,” Clay said. “However in today’s world of instant social media, such events are difficult if not impossible to resolve confidentially.”


5 posted on 01/03/2013 4:48:06 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Lawgvr1955

I actually think this is great and wish more people and restaurants would do this, especially in States where Citizens are prevented from owning or using firearms. Do these “officers” enforce tyrannical laws in direct defiance of what the Constitution says?? YES THEY DO. Then tell the Jack Booted Gang Bangers to go somewhere else. Maybe I will start eating at Denny’s again.


6 posted on 01/03/2013 4:48:50 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Lawgvr1955

Interesting...

What if this is an opening move, such as....

You people take away our rights to arm and defend ourselves and we in turn decide not to serve you food anymore unless you do the same.


7 posted on 01/03/2013 4:49:47 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: Izzy Dunne

He just saved their lives.
Just because you can chew it, doesn’t make it editable.

It would make a good safe house for gangs.


8 posted on 01/03/2013 4:50:10 AM PST by Morris70
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To: Lawgvr1955

Dumb, dumb, dumb and dumb! Wouldn’t a manager of a restaurant want armed law enforcement eating in their restaurant or getting a cup of coffee? Sounds like the manager has declared “open season” on his/her own restaurant. From my understanding, many establishments like 7-11, give cops free coffee and access to the employees restrooms. Why? Police presence deters crime. DUH!


9 posted on 01/03/2013 4:50:29 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Lawgvr1955
The lady detective was in plain clothes, with her pistol visible, and some other patrons became alarmed. The place had a sign that only UNIFORMED officers could have weapons in the restaurant.

If she and the other detectives could have had the common sense to have their pistols concealed, there would not have been an issue.

10 posted on 01/03/2013 4:50:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Lawgvr1955

I hope they get robbed once a week...... or more!


11 posted on 01/03/2013 4:51:14 AM PST by CAluvdubya (We're doomed....)
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To: Lawgvr1955

It’s going to really be a pain when the Libs in Illinois start to ban Knives and Forks. I wonder if You’ll have to get a permit to be able to cut up some pancakes or go to the same black market that you get lightbulbs? LOL


12 posted on 01/03/2013 4:51:20 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Lawgvr1955

I was at PDQ in Tampa over the holidays. There were 5 well-dressed men and women at two tables wearing guns on their belts. They had badges on a leather background around their necks on a chain. I assumed that the prominently displayed badges were to stop the patrons from panicking at the open carry. I decided right then and there that PDQ is the place I want to eat. (I conceal carry and never let anybody see the gun as I’m afraid they’ll go nuts. )


13 posted on 01/03/2013 4:54:05 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Lawgvr1955

They may as well put up a sign saying “FREE CASH FOR DIRTBAGS”. Good luck with that next 911 call fellahs!


14 posted on 01/03/2013 4:54:05 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Lawgvr1955
Get to their Botttom Line.

Denny's Investor Relations:

877-784-7167
ir@dennys.com

Belleville Denny's
(618) 277-1360

15 posted on 01/03/2013 4:54:53 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Lawgvr1955

Is that the Denny’s where Shaniq’qi’q’wah beat up a waitress?

I’ll bet that waitress would have LOVED it if an armed officer of the law had been sitting in the next booth!


16 posted on 01/03/2013 4:59:31 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: TADSLOS

Belleville, former home of Stag Beer (on my customer list.)


17 posted on 01/03/2013 5:03:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Lawgvr1955

Here are a few videos of the antics of Denny’s customers.

Only idiots would want to run off cops, given past history at many Denny’s.

DENNY’S FIGHTS!
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEA02F5DA8B4179F8


18 posted on 01/03/2013 5:04:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Lawgvr1955

“Hey, the cops can have guns, but we can’t? Get out!”


19 posted on 01/03/2013 5:06:42 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush! (Oathkeeper))
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To: PapaBear3625

The lady detective was in plain clothes, with her pistol visible, and some other patrons became alarmed. The place had a sign that only UNIFORMED officers could have weapons in the restaurant.


According to the story, that fact (sign on door) is in dispute:
“Sax said there was no sign posted on the door of the restaurant stating police officers must be in uniform if they have a weapon.”


20 posted on 01/03/2013 5:07:21 AM PST by cidrasm
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