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Elector Challenge Against Obama - Jan. 3, 2013, 2 p.m. PDT
Defend Our Freedoms Foundation | 1/2/2013 | Orly Taitz

Posted on 01/03/2013 8:04:31 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

This order was issued at 5:17pm [1/2/2013] by Judge England, confirming that each side gets 20 minutes at tomorrow’s [1/3/2013] hearing per local rules


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: birthers; electoral; eligibility; lawsuit; naturalborncitizen; taitz; truthers; vanity
Cannot link to Taitz website per FR rules.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=373421

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Grinols-complaint.pdf

This may be out last best hope to stop the monster named Obama. It is a TRO hearing. If judge England gives it a fair treatment (that's a BIG IF), and rules for Taitz, et. al., then this will become worldwide news.

The case has merit and standing because it is being brought by a certified Republican elector who is being disenfranchized because of Obama's fraud.

Whatever you may think of Dr. Orly Taitz, do not spit on her with your comments. She is actually DOING SOMETHING to stop Obama and protect your freedoms.

I suggest that we pray for her success.

1 posted on 01/03/2013 8:04:35 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

The Arizona electors are also considering a protest to his election. Don’t hold your breath...but any port in a storm.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 8:10:31 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
3 posted on 01/03/2013 8:12:41 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Can she subpoena the “birth certificate” as evidence of fraud?


4 posted on 01/03/2013 8:14:44 AM PST by eCSMaster (2012 elections: American Coup d'etat!)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

“Cannot link to Taitz website per FR rules. “

Is this something new?

Because I can’t find the site anywhere on the updated list.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts


5 posted on 01/03/2013 8:15:53 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: eCSMaster

WHAT birth certificate?


6 posted on 01/03/2013 8:18:43 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Too many complaints about the massive and nasty malware people have gotten when going to her site, I think. At one time, it was the worst I’d seen, so I thought maybe the place had been hacked. But it wasn’t, it’s just another facet to Taits. So I just stay away from all things Orly Tait just to be safe.


7 posted on 01/03/2013 8:27:53 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Interesting.

I’ve never gotten any warnings about malware or ‘attack site’ anytime that I’ve gone to that site.

Might just be ‘false positives’ from whatever antimalware or antivirus program that is being used.

But, like I said, I didn’t see it listed under the ‘excerpted’ or ‘link only’ copyright list.

Thanks for the info though.


8 posted on 01/03/2013 8:34:10 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

AFAIK, the Electors could vote for Daffy Duck if they chose to - that would not violate Federal law.

They may face state charges, but who they vote for is a done deal, state charges or not.


9 posted on 01/03/2013 8:39:05 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I went to her site a couple times and never got ANYTHING like you describe, I also run Linux.


10 posted on 01/03/2013 8:41:45 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Sometimes I wonder whose side Taitz is on..


11 posted on 01/03/2013 8:45:23 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

I’m definitely praying for her success.

AZ SOS Ken Bennett sent in a request form asking HI to verify Obama’s birth facts, as well as some other things. The verification he received did not verify ANY birth facts that were submitted in the request application: male, Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama, even though HRS 338-14.3 requires the registrar to verify any submitted facts if it CAN be verified (certified as being the way the event actually happened).

Onaka would not verify that the White House long-form image was a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” but did verify that the information contained in the White House image “matches” the record on file. In a later verification to KS SOS Kris Kobach Onaka would not verify that the information in the White House image is “identical to” the information in the record on file.

Because the claims on the White House image are all on the original record, all of the above-listed items lawfully have to be verified in the verification to Ken Bennett IF THE RECORD THEY HAVE IS LEGALLY VALID. Because he did not include those items, we know that the record is not legally valid.

IOW, there is a certified document from Hawaii indirectly confirming that Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate is legally non-valid and that he has no legally-established birth facts.

There is no way he has ever been able to qualify to be President. That’s according to a certified document from the official in Hawaii responsible to tell the truth about the record.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 8:45:40 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

An official order from Congress to Hawaii, demanding that 0bama’s ORIGINAL BIRTH RECORDS be submitted or made available for Congress to review would put this baby to bed once and for all, so to speak.


13 posted on 01/03/2013 8:58:33 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Bigh4u2

My first attempt to link to the website was stopped with a complaint about malware.


14 posted on 01/03/2013 8:59:07 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

This isn’t “doing something”, this is an 11th-hour tinfoil gasp of hot air.

The time to “do something” was last year, when we failed to nominate an actual conservative to be Obama’s opponent.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 8:59:25 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: eCSMaster

Right now this is just a TRO. If it goes to trial, then yes, she can supoena the birth certificate.

BTW, she is purposely going for a jury trial so that the Obama administration cannot put the screws to a single judge to get him to vote in favor of Obama.


16 posted on 01/03/2013 9:05:34 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
Advisory opinion by Florida Sec of State on ballot access for naturalized U.S. Citizen candidate for Office of the President of the U.S.

http://www.abdulhassanforpresident.com/ballot_access/Florida_Ballot_Access_Ruling_Hassan_for_President.pdf

The Florida Supreme Court ruled, "The law does not give the secretary of state any power or authority to inquire into or pass upon the eligibility of a candidate to hold office for the nomination for which he is running." Davis ex rel, Taylor v. Crawford, 116 So. 41, 42 (Fla. 1928).

If an ineligible candidate for the Office of the President of the U.S. (or the party in the case of a political party nominee) files the required papers under Chapter 103, Florida Statutes, the Secretary must grant ballot access to the ineligible candidate. The Secretary's ministerial granting of ballot access "would not preclude litigation from proper plaintiffs to remove a candidate's name from the ballot if the candidate does not satisfy the qualifications for the office of the President of the United States."

17 posted on 01/03/2013 9:08:22 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: mquinn

I agree that we should have fielded a conservative.

However, since we have a system that elects the president through an Electoral College, it seems to be the only avenue for a challenger to have “standing.” Everything other suit has been dismissed for lack of “standing.”

This is the proper avenue for exposing the fraud and stopping the monster.


18 posted on 01/03/2013 9:11:04 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

“This is the proper avenue for exposing the fraud and stopping the monster.”

It’s still going to tick off a lot of “conservative” posters here.


19 posted on 01/03/2013 9:20:55 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

1) No judge in the US is willing to overturn a nation-wide election or reconfirming election. That single person (or group) will be saddled with having created a Constitutional crisis (and probable urban unrest/looting, reference Rodney King).

2) The SCOTUS has already shown us that nationwide elections alter the immediate understanding of the Constitution; meaning elections trump the US Constitution.


20 posted on 01/03/2013 9:32:54 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

If that is true, America is dead. Period.

That OK with all y’all, or are we going to do something about it?

Funny how elections that resulted in amendments to state Constitutions have very easily and consistently been overturned by judges at every level of the judicial system. The only elections you’re talking about are PRESIDENTIAL elections; IOW, the POTUS is the king who trumps the Constitution. Why is this OK/tolerated by so-called “conservatives”?


21 posted on 01/03/2013 9:37:36 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Under my #1, judges are running scared of their legacy as well as their public reputation.

Under my #2, well, thank Roberts for that. Essentially, if the majority of individuals residing within the borders of the US (illegal or not!?!) vote Satan into power, then Satan has free reign to interpret our founding documents as he sees fit...as long as he calls it a tax!

The fundamental understanding of the Constitution was undermined in 1865 and its slow erosion has come to this point, today.

Here on FR, we shouldn’t consider ourselves “conservative” or “originalist” but, more accurately, “Constitutional Fundamentalists”. Too bad that the left has so denigrated the term “fundamentalist” as it wouold be an apt moniker for a viable 3rd party...


22 posted on 01/03/2013 9:50:58 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Orly Taitz has done more to challenge Obama than the GOP and the Obama Supporter GOP Media has done

Anyone still attacking the Obama Eligibility folks are nothing more than Obama Supporters


23 posted on 01/03/2013 10:14:54 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Don Corleone

Any updates regarding Sheriff Arpio’s investigation?

It’s almost like it dropped off the face of the earth.


24 posted on 01/03/2013 10:46:53 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

The Constitution does not authorize Congress to interpret or define the term natural born citizen. Consequently, Congress cannot make a determination as to eligibility of a Presidental candidate or President-elect to serve and take the oath of office.

Only the Judicial Branch of government can interpret and define the Constitution or legislation.


25 posted on 01/03/2013 11:09:23 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: SvenMagnussen

......so what happened today.....?


26 posted on 01/03/2013 3:36:03 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: spokeshave

“......so what happened today.....?”

No news, good news? I checked Orly’s site. Nothing.


27 posted on 01/03/2013 3:41:29 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: Cyber Liberty
A lot of sites supporting Sarah Palin also come up with horrific warnings about malware, etc. - particularly on Web of Trust, which is used by a lot of antivirus programs to screen dangerous sites. Problem is, these ratings are a composite of ratings posted by individuals, and are susceptible to multiple negative ratings by Obots in an attempt to close off access. I find McAfee Site Advisor less liable to manipulation.
28 posted on 01/03/2013 4:01:03 PM PST by NJ_Tom (I don't worship the State; I don't worship the Environment - I only worship God.)
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To: NJ_Tom

MacAfee Site Advisor was the software that warned me off Taitz’s site.


29 posted on 01/03/2013 4:10:42 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: spokeshave

Bob at thefogbow.com posted ...

Post subject: Grinols v. Electoral College (E.D. Cal.)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:52 pm

TRO denied. Written order to follow.

No dismissal. No sanctions.

Sad Orly. Testy judge.


30 posted on 01/03/2013 4:17:50 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: SvenMagnussen

realist at thefogbow.com just posted ...

MINUTES (Text Only) for proceedings held before Chief Judge Morrison C. England, Jr.: After hearing argument from counsel the Court denied Plaintiffs’ Motion for Temporary Restraining Order 12 . A formal, written order will be issued shortly and will be the controlling ruling on Plaintiffs’ Motion. Plaintiffs’ Counsel present: Orly Taitz. Defendants’ Counsel present: Edward Olsen and George Waters. Court Reporter: Kelly O’Halloran. Interpreter none present. (Deutsch, S) (Entered: 01/03/2013)


31 posted on 01/03/2013 4:23:22 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: SvenMagnussen

REALIST AT THEFOGBOW.COM POSTED ...

MINUTES (Text Only) for proceedings held before Chief Judge Morrison C. England, Jr.: After hearing argument from counsel the Court denied Plaintiffs’ Motion for Temporary Restraining Order 12 . A formal, written order will be issued shortly and will be the controlling ruling on Plaintiffs’ Motion. Plaintiffs’ Counsel present: Orly Taitz. Defendants’ Counsel present: Edward Olsen and George Waters. Court Reporter: Kelly O’Halloran. Interpreter none present. (Deutsch, S) (Entered: 01/03/2013)


32 posted on 01/03/2013 4:35:06 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: SvenMagnussen

What is the hold the Dem’s have over Republican Judges and politicians?


33 posted on 01/03/2013 7:55:27 PM PST by ABrit (awordinyourear.blogspot.co.uk)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I just went to site advisor & got the message “We tested this site and didn’t find any significant problems.” together with a green check mark


34 posted on 01/04/2013 10:50:29 AM PST by NJ_Tom (I don't worship the State; I don't worship the Environment - I only worship God.)
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