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FBI: More People Killed with Hammers, Clubs Each Year than Rifles
Breitbart ^ | 3 Jan 2013, 6:13 AM PDT | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 01/03/2013 1:20:02 PM PST by hiredhand

According to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/03/2013 1:20:11 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand
Somehow I don't think DiFi will be impressed.

Happy New Year HH

2 posted on 01/03/2013 1:28:20 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi
Of course not! Lets not confuse her with fact. :-) Happy New Year to you too. :-)
3 posted on 01/03/2013 1:31:42 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand

Roughly 7,000 are killed each year by people using handguns. Now they’ll want to ban those.


4 posted on 01/03/2013 1:33:21 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: hiredhand

Okay so let’s BAN Hammers........... sac/


5 posted on 01/03/2013 1:37:45 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: hiredhand

how many murders are committed with handguns?


6 posted on 01/03/2013 1:39:34 PM PST by ksen
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To: Right Wing Assault
They already want to ban handguns.

I notice, however, that murder with 'personal weapons (hands and feet' outnumbers both blunt instruments and rifles.

Obviously, we must outlaw hands and feet.

7 posted on 01/03/2013 1:40:12 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: hiredhand

What about with pointed sticks?


8 posted on 01/03/2013 1:40:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ksen
how many murders are committed with handguns?

Check the link ... lots of interesting numbers. Average appears to be about 7000 over the reporting period with a clear decreasing trend.

9 posted on 01/03/2013 1:43:06 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: hiredhand

I predict hearings in Congress on this shortly.

“So Mr. CEO of Home Depot, you say that anyone with a few bucks can just walk right into your store, grab an assault hammer, with no ID check, and purchase as many as they want?”

“That is correct, ma’am. I mean, Senator ma’am.”

“Do you realize how many people are murdered each year by hammers you at Home Depot are selling? They’re just in plain reach right there on the shelves. ANYONE can just take one.”

“I was not aware of that. Apparently you weren’t either. Senator ma’am.”

“What do you think should be done about this, given you profit from the sale of these dangerous weapons of death, whose only purpose is for pounding on things?”

“Well, I think the best thing is to allow people to arm themselves with hammers, to at least counter force with equal force. Senator. Ma’am.”

“That’s all well and good for you, you’re just going to profit from everyone buying hammers from you.”

“Well then, it doesn’t have to be a hammer. Let them use something that is used far less to murder people than a hammer. Let them carry a gun.”

“Blurb blah, but.....this is an outrage!” /senator ma’am’s mic cuts out


10 posted on 01/03/2013 1:43:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

7000? That’s it . . . really?

I wonder why I had a 50,000 or so number stuck in my head. :hmmm:


11 posted on 01/03/2013 1:47:41 PM PST by ksen
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To: Secret Agent Man
Here's something that was forwarded to me via e-mail just awhile ago -

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Here's what's going to happen. Remember this.

There's soon going to be a run on PVC piping for "storing" things under ground and under water. Get it now, because in a few weeks if trends continue, you won't be able to, and you'll be forced to improvise.

Now, having said that. Nobody thinks ahead to "afterward". Huh? "afterward"? Yes. AFTERWARD. Here's something to consider, and each of you know there's truth in it.

The type of people who own AR-15s aren't exactly the "turn em in" sort of crowd. They're the "Molon Labe" sorts. Just google "Molon Labe". It will explain everything. They're also law abiding people, and "usually" peaceful. They do however have limits.

But back to burying things in the ground. What about afterward? It's not as if the authorities have NO idea who owns the types of weapons they want to take from the public's hands. In fact, they have a good paper trail on "most" of it. Not all of it, but most of it.

The authorities are vastly outnumbered by an armed public, and they know this. Therefore, once a ban is declared, or registration and/or confiscation (or any combination thereof) is declared, they'll execute it swiftly and with extreme prejudice. It's a tennant of warfare and conflict to strike swiftly and harshly when faced with a force which is many times over in number...for maximum psychological effect against the opposing force. I sent this to a few of you earlier and it's worth reading... at least the first two pages - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2972987/posts

The majority of people will not comply with any illegal legislation attempting to disarm, or reduce the public's ability to defend itself. There's never been a worse time in history to even suggest such a thing, and far too many citizens on both sides of the political aisle are in no mood to be disarmed, or reduced in their ability to be armed. The U.S. Justice Department itself has admitted to the uselessness of gun bans, while crime statistics of those areas having a high concentration of armed households (and especially CCW permits) stand in stark contrast to those which are prohibitive of arms.

Since the majority will not comply, the authorities will pursure with force. Let me ask you a question. How do you think most people are going to act the first time sanctioned law enforcement officers show up in the wee-dark hours looking for that AR-15, Mini-14, or Hi-Cap semi-auto handgun that you dropped into the pond using sealed/weighted plastic tubing? How about the second time they show up? What about when they harrass your wife at work? What if they harrass you at work? How are you going to feel after the half-dozenth time over a one month period where they've been harrassing you and your family? What about after six months? Think you'll have had enough by then? Will you go retrieve the weapon, and return it, beaten and submissive? Something tells me that this isn't quite the way it's going to happen. Some will. Yes. But not most.

You see, it's not the "burying" part that's dangerous. It's the "digging up" bit that I'm concerned about. Because everybody has a limit, and I perceive that far too many people have a very sincere "don't mess with it" sort of attitude with regards to firearms, personal safety, and our draconian legislators at the moment.

I think they'll probably ban the types of weapons we know I'm talking about, which will prompt most owners to simply hide them. Following this, the authorities will search and harrass. After a time, people will get "fed up", and organize, and then start digging up and retrieving what they put into hiding. What follows that is what I don't relish thinking about. It's basically the process of a "cold war" becoming a "hot war". It's where a war of ideas, doctrine, and philosophy breaks out into the physical realm. It's not difficult to envision and certainly within the realm of possibility at this point.

I've felt for a long time that what divides America from the likes of Bosnia/Herzgovina and Syria is a very thin and fragile line. I think our legislators and a few supporting citizens are tampering with something very, very dangerous. Worse than this, I perceive that they feel empowered and even "righteous" in tampering with it. They don't perceive or even believe the danger involved.

So hide and watch. If I'm wrong, then good. If not then I still can't take credit. It all seems rather easy to see unfolding the way it is.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 1:53:57 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand

Hammers are the weapon of choice among biker gangs when beating each other


13 posted on 01/03/2013 1:54:37 PM PST by reefdiver
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To: ksen

50,000 might be annual deaths due to car crashes.


14 posted on 01/03/2013 2:00:32 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: blueyon
Stop!


15 posted on 01/03/2013 2:16:09 PM PST by pogo101
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To: hiredhand

Raise the age to 18, for purchasing baseball bats.
Only one per household and must be registered with FBI .can not be carried in public without special license.


16 posted on 01/03/2013 2:23:22 PM PST by Morris70
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To: ArrogantBustard

I’m still waiting on the statistic (that’s been suppressed by the media for decades)about how many lives have been saved because of a gun. Where’s that stat??


17 posted on 01/03/2013 2:25:06 PM PST by Mier (Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent!! "Jim Quinn")
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To: Morris70
Raise the age to 18, for purchasing baseball bats.

So much for Little League.

18 posted on 01/03/2013 2:26:55 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: hiredhand

What about if someone attacks you with a banana?


19 posted on 01/03/2013 2:27:10 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: hiredhand

Semi-automatic hammers must be banned!


20 posted on 01/03/2013 2:28:21 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Mier
I’m still waiting on the statistic (that’s been suppressed by the media for decades)about how many lives have been saved because of a gun. Where’s that stat??

How many lives have been saved ....

Say ... Did you know that Kim Kardassian is pregnant? Look over there! A Shiny Object!

21 posted on 01/03/2013 2:31:08 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Mier
It's kept with the stat which proves that driving at night with your headlights ON reduces the number of wrecks.
22 posted on 01/03/2013 2:36:32 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand

23 posted on 01/03/2013 2:53:18 PM PST by x
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To: hiredhand

I’m not sure the numbers really interest me...Even if rifes caused twice or three times as many deaths or none at all, I know that I will never kill somebody with mine unless it’s in self-defense, property defense, or to topple a tyranny.

Once we get sucked into the numbers games, people will skew statistics to suit their arguments ad nauseum. It amounts to playing their game.

We have a Constitutionally guaranteed right to be armed. It would take an ammendment to the Constitution to change that. Until such an ammendment is passed, I don’t care if every murder in America is performed with a rifle, they won’t be taking mine.


24 posted on 01/03/2013 2:59:21 PM PST by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: hiredhand
Estwing makes a great line of assault hammers but
my favorite has always been my rigging axe.

Makes a great throwing hawk.

25 posted on 01/03/2013 3:07:08 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: hiredhand

to ban hammers and clubs they’d have to go after Stanley,
Estwing, Vaughn, and Louisville Slugger.


26 posted on 01/03/2013 3:09:12 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: hiredhand

Don’t forget the ammo! Burying stuff in PVC pipe might be a good trick, but stashing them in the attic or crawl space won’t work. They will just use bomb sniffing dogs to find the hidden stash.

I have a friend who was a K9 officer with a bomb sniffing dog. I ran in to him one day in the parking lot of the local federal building when he was doing his parking lot sweeps. It was an extremely windy day (25mph+) and I asked him if the wind affected the dog. He put the dog on stay and walk ay about 3 lanes over with the wind and withdrew a spare loaded clip for his Beretta 9mm on a tire of one ofthe cars.

He then walked back to the dog, released him and gave the command to search. that dog found the clip within 10 seconds. This was just 15 bullets, not a hug cache of ammo or explosives.


27 posted on 01/03/2013 3:19:59 PM PST by shotgun
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To: Secret Agent Man
“So Mr. CEO of Home Depot, you say that anyone with a few bucks can just walk right into your store, grab an assault hammer, with no ID check, and purchase as many as they want?”

As a matter of fact, I got my "Dead On Annihilator" assault hammer at a Texas Home Depot store... no background check, no waiting period, nuthin'.

It even has a BEER BOTTLE opener!


28 posted on 01/03/2013 3:20:08 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: shotgun
I know virtually nothing about burying/hiding "stuff". I do however remain gainfully employed because of the law enforcement community and Judicial Branch in my state and and have a lot of connections because of it. I know that it's not quite as simple as burying in PVC. :-)
29 posted on 01/03/2013 3:23:23 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: ArrogantBustard

50k/year used to be annual deaths in car crashes.

Despite more people and more miles driven, the number has worked its way down to around 30k.


30 posted on 01/03/2013 3:35:55 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: hiredhand

My boss is a retired Sheriff. He said he saw more people killed with baseball bats than guns during his career. Bats are quieter.


31 posted on 01/03/2013 5:08:02 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: hiredhand

And more children die in mop buckets, toilets and bathtubs than are killed in “alcohol-related” vehicle “crashes”, but statistics don’t matter to the people in charge.


32 posted on 01/03/2013 5:09:09 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: hiredhand

Ban all tools.


33 posted on 01/03/2013 5:11:52 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: shotgun
They will just use bomb sniffing dogs to find the hidden stash.

The last time I went to an airport for any reason (and will never do so again), the dogs lit up on what had to be primer and powder residue in my pickup.

I would revert to horseback, but I have that stuff all over the tack as well.

Sheesh!

34 posted on 01/03/2013 5:21:35 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: hiredhand

Feinstein doesn’t care about the facts; she’s a DemoQuack.


35 posted on 01/03/2013 6:49:31 PM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: reefdiver

“Hammers are the weapon of choice among biker gangs when beating each other”

That’s actually a really good point which I had forgotten about. The outlaw motorcycle guys are always concerned about carrying a gun or anything classified as a weapon given that they usually have felony convictions or on parole which prohibits them from possession, and rather than get caught on a weapons charge instead carry hammers, chains, etc. which can be “innocently” carried but be otherwise used with malicious intent.


36 posted on 01/03/2013 6:53:26 PM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: hiredhand

Today’s Toons

37 posted on 01/04/2013 4:35:24 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando

That’s funny. :-)


38 posted on 01/04/2013 7:37:42 AM PST by hiredhand
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