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Something stinks when there are no stories about the results of Lanza's toxicology tests in almost 3 weeks.

They would certaily have the results of any illegal drugs by now.

1 posted on 01/03/2013 10:51:33 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I have zero pharmacology or psychology knowledge but based on my little bit of real life experience, I believe Ritalin inhibits a child’s ability to feel empathy.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 11:04:05 PM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: neverdem

When I was in school in the ‘60s and ‘70s we had to hide our drugs from our parents, teachers and doctors. Today that’s where kids get them.


3 posted on 01/03/2013 11:08:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem

>> Something stinks when there are no stories about the results of Lanza’s toxicology tests in almost 3 weeks.

The Leftwing propaganda machine is firmly entrenched in major media.

I repeat: the Leftwing faction in media is the Country’s greatest threat.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 12:08:00 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: neverdem
Is it a chicken or the egg thing? Do non-violent people become more violent by taking these kinds of drugs, or do the drugs actually lessen the chances that already psychopathic people lose control and murder? All I know is that occurrences of young males going out and slaughtering people were almost unknown when I was growing up in the fifties and sixties. I knew of no cases of kids being medicated with prescribed pyschotropic drugs. No adults talked about them. There might have been some kids taking those drugs, but we never heard about them.

Now for the past thirty years or more, children have been heavily medicated with these psychotropic drugs. And the incidences of young adults going crazy and murdering people has risen dramatically. Correlation does not prove causation, but I'd look very closely at the drug angle.

6 posted on 01/04/2013 3:02:04 AM PST by driftless2
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To: neverdem

I’d guess the drugs involved were legally prescribed, but this says complete toxology tests really take a number of weeks:

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/alcohol-abuse/features/the-truth-about-toxicology-tests?page=3


8 posted on 01/04/2013 4:17:16 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: neverdem
Something stinks when there are no stories about the results of

Something else I have not heard one word of his political affiliation. Every shooting since BO took office has been blamed on the teaparty why not this one? Could it be that the mother was a registered Democrat and that is not news?

10 posted on 01/04/2013 8:21:26 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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It's the Drugs, Stupid!

Including the drug alcohol; from the article:

"every study of the effects of the long-term use of psychotropic drugs, whether illicit, "recreational" -- e.g., alcohol -- or prescribed, indicates that such use causes brain injury, especially to the frontal lobes, by far the least rugged area of our brains. [...] children who refrain from the use of drugs and alcohol -- and this includes prescription psychotropic drugs as well as illegal drugs -- are much less likely to commit violent crimes as adults than children who have used such substances."

11 posted on 01/04/2013 8:42:06 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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where illegal drugs such as cocaine and “speed” are often cited for their negative effects, in fact, among the drugs that are often prescribed for ADHD, Ritalin is chemically similar to cocaine and Adderall is a mix of four powerful amphetamines. We’re addicting more than ten percent of our children — overwhelmingly boys — to these drugs because they have difficulty sitting still and paying attention in class.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Ritatlin+compared+to+cocaine&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

I know a few FPs, who refused to mass RX Ritalin and later Adderall, when local teachers wanted intelligent young boys sedated and under control.

In a community not that large, one of these FPs noted, often the teachers trying to get boys on Ritalin, were chronically depressed, and often on antidepressants. They hated teaching any child that challenged them.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 9:29:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: neverdem

It seems to me the author has an agenda. He does not explore any other similarities between the shooters or shootings. Many factors should be considered: parental influence and/or abuse, bullying by peers, desensitization to violence through movies & video games, a society wherein feelings trump personal responsibility, etc.

Do doctors over-prescribe drugs to treat ADHD? Certainly. Are those drugs harmful to some and beneficial to others? Absolutely.

I have ADHD and so do my children. I struggled through high school without medication. Back then, ADHD was not often diagnosed or treated. I knew I had trouble concentrating and couldn’t study after school no matter how long I stared at my books but I didn’t know why.

Medicating my children was a LAST resort. We tried everything else first: diet, behavioral modification, coping mechanisms, homeschooling, private school, and many other suggested techniques/solutions. When each of my kids started taking ADHD medication, we saw an immediate and drastic change in their ability to function daily. I do not regret the decision. My kids do not lack empathy for others. In fact, if anything, they are more empathetic and considerate now.

Medication works for some but not others. Indicting medication as the cause of these mass shootings is not the answer.


14 posted on 01/04/2013 3:57:21 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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