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Nat'l. organization complains about Upstate prayer (SC)
wyff4.com ^ | January 3, 2013

Posted on 01/04/2013 7:04:12 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

An Upstate school district has gotten a complaint from a national organization that's upset about the way the district opens their meetings.

The Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation sent a letter of complaint to the School District of Pickens County after someone complained to the organization.

For as long as anyone with the School District of Pickens County can remember, an invocation has been a part of each meeting, led by students from different schools.

SDPC spokesman John Eby said, "If we felt like it was violating the constitution, we wouldn't be doing it."

He said there haven't been any complaints about the way the district starts the meetings until now.

The letter was sent to the board asking it "take immediate action and refrain from scheduling prayers" in the future.

The organization's staff attorney, Patrick Elliott, told News 4 by phone that it's "a serious constitutional violation."

"They shouldn't be instituting religious rituals at their meetings,” Elliott said. “Certainly, people can practice their religion, pray, and do all that on their own time, but as a matter of school business, these prayers are inappropriate and unconstitutional."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: South Carolina
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Why don't these people mind their own business? I am so sick of them trying to take away our rights. What has God done to them to make them so hateful?
1 posted on 01/04/2013 7:04:16 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m interested in who’s funding them and info on members.


2 posted on 01/04/2013 7:09:42 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Atheism is also a religion.

These people are imposing their religion, atheism, on the rest of us.

It's time for this to stop.

3 posted on 01/04/2013 7:11:27 AM PST by eCSMaster (2012 elections: American Coup d'etat!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I am pretty sure they have people search out organizations that pray and go after them. My bet the “complainer” was not a local. Sometimes I wish Christians were more radical. I am tired of always backing down.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 7:17:17 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

When are we going to start telling organizations like this to stick it where the sun don’t shine? When are we going to stand up to tyranny?


5 posted on 01/04/2013 7:17:47 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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When are we going to start telling organizations like this to stick it where the sun don’t shine? When are we going to stand up to tyranny?

Fortitude is lacking by many in this country.

6 posted on 01/04/2013 7:19:00 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Certainly, people can practice their religion, pray, and do all that on their own time,

NERO says "Pray in your homes and closets you Christians!"

Ibama is for freedom of worship not freedom of religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

7 posted on 01/04/2013 7:30:12 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The FRF needs to receive a few very non-Christian type responses.

Folks need to quit caving to this intimidation, in VERY strong language.


8 posted on 01/04/2013 7:42:40 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Back in 2000, the ACLU, one of those "national organizations" tried to get Catawba County, NC to remove the Cross from its seal.

It appears that they failed to do so. This is the image currently on our county website.

Hang in there, Pickens County!

9 posted on 01/04/2013 7:45:51 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Response to FRF:

“If you don't leave us alone, you will be praying for mercy”

10 posted on 01/04/2013 7:46:26 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Exactly. Just ignore them. Are they gonna start jailing people for praying? Of course, it will probably come to that. End times.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 7:50:02 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

http://ffrf.org/about/ffrf-honorary-board/

Ron Reagan, media commentator, describes himself in a radio ad he taped for FFRF as: “Unabashed atheist, not afraid of burning in hell.”

Richard Dawkins, probably the world’s most famous contemporary atheist and a distinguished evolutionary biologist, is Oxford professor emeritus. In his blockbuster book, The God Delusion, Dawkins writes: “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction.”

Rebecca Newberger Goldstein, author of 36 Arguments For the Existence of God: A Work of Fiction and a research associate in Harvard’s psychology department, is FFRF Freethought Heroine of 2011. Goldstein is a 1996 MacArthur Fellow (the “genius” award). She has taught at Barnard and in the Columbia MFA writing program and the Rutgers philosophy department. She’s been a visiting scholar at Brandeis and at Trinity College in Hartford.

Julia Sweeney, comedian and actress, is writer/performer of the play, “Letting Go of God”: “How dare the religious use the term ‘born again.’ That truly describes freethinkers who’ve thrown off the shackles of religion so much better!”

Daniel C. Dennett is Austin B. Fletcher Professor of Philosophy, Tufts, and author of the bestselling book about religion, Breaking the Spell. In a newspaper article about his nonbelief, Dennett once wrote: “I’ve come to realize it’s time to sound the alarm.”

Katha Pollitt, “Subject to Debate” columnist for The Nation, author and poet, has spoken out regularly and energetically as a freethinker, in such columns as “Freedom From Religion, Sí!”

Steven Pinker, Johnstone Professor of Psychology, Harvard, is author of The Blank Slate: “I never outgrew my conversion to atheist at 13.”

Oliver Sacks, M.D., the compassionate neurologist and bestselling author, describes himself as “an old Jewish atheist.”

Jennifer Michael Hecht, poet, historian and author of the acclaimed Doubt: A History and The End of the Soul, told the FFRF 2009 convention audience: “If there is no god — and there isn’t — then we [humans] made up morality. And I’m very impressed.”

Edward Sorel, satiric cartoonist and irreverent illustrator who is a regular contributor to The Atlantic, The New Yorker, and whose caricatures have been exhibited at the National Portrait Gallery, has been a Foundation member since the 1980s.

Mike Newdow is working pro bono to challenge such violations as the addition of “under God” to the Pledge of Allegiance. He told the U.S. Supreme Court during oral arguments: “I am an atheist. I don’t believe in God. And every school morning my child is asked to stand up, face that flag, put her hand over her heart, and say that her father is wrong.”

Robert Sapolsky, a neurologist, Stanford professor and bestselling author, once suggested FFRF put up a sign at its conventions: “Welcome, hellbound atheists.”

Ernie Harburg, a retired research scientist, is president of Yip Harburg Foundation and co-author of Who Put the Rainbow in the Wizard of Oz? Ernie has dedicated his retirement to furthering the lyrics, music, memory and progressive views of his freethinking father, the lyricist Yip Harburg, author of classic songs such as “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” and of Rhymes for the Irreverent, recently republished by FFRF.

Susan Jacoby, bestselling author of Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism, and program director of the Center for Inquiry-New York City, told FFRF convention-goers in 2004: “[President] Kennedy had to speak about his religion because he was suspected of insufficient dedication to the Constitution’s separation of church and state. Today’s candidates are suspect if they display too much dedication to secular government.”

A bunch of old white atheists. We need to fight back - now.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 7:55:58 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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