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Doctor with permit charged over gun at Pa. school
timesonline.com ^ | 3 January, 2013 | AP

Posted on 01/04/2013 7:09:42 AM PST by marktwain

A doctor with a permit to carry a concealed weapon was charged with having a gun on school property when he picked up his child from a southwestern Pennsylvania high school about three hours after the school shootings last month in Newtown, Conn.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; guncontrol; pa; school; secondamendment
"It shall be a defense that the weapon is possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful supervised school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful purpose."

It seems clear, via Heller and McDonald, that self defense is a lawful purpose. I hope that there is a judge in the case who has some integrity.

1 posted on 01/04/2013 7:09:50 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

We have to keep those children in defenseless victim zones. We cannot allow them to be protected like David Gregory’s children.


2 posted on 01/04/2013 7:11:58 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
I hope that there is a judge in the case who has some integrity.

Good luck with that. Nowadays that is like finding a chicken with a full set of teeth.

3 posted on 01/04/2013 7:14:32 AM PST by sport
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To: marktwain
about three hours after the school shootings last month in Newtown, Conn.

The the HELL does that have to do with the story? Apart from implying that it's a good thing he was caught, otherwise...........

4 posted on 01/04/2013 7:14:45 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: marktwain
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5 posted on 01/04/2013 7:14:53 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: marktwain

... or Obama’s children.


6 posted on 01/04/2013 7:15:42 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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“King merely had the gun with him when a school employee noticed and reported it.”

Concealed means concealed!

Make sure you’re aware of your clothing and that your weapon remains concealed through a range of motion.

We can hope for a good legal remedy, but you don’t want to put yourself through that process.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 7:16:14 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: marktwain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxRlpRcorEU

What about these thugs promoting murder..


8 posted on 01/04/2013 7:19:58 AM PST by PLD
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To: marktwain

If it was concealed, how did they know he had it?

A school employee noticed and reported it.

What is the responsibility of the permit holder to keep it concealed? I think it may vary by state.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 7:20:18 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I have tightened the sphincter! ....)
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To: marktwain

Now this doctor will have to face having a criminal record. Ridiculous law.


10 posted on 01/04/2013 7:21:46 AM PST by Wiggins
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“What is the responsibility of the permit holder to keep it concealed?”

I know that in some states, open carry is very much legal, has been for years, and is legal even if the state does not allow concealed carry.

What I don’t know is whether or not obtaining a concealed carry license suddenly requires you to conceal it...but I don’t think it does.

But, once we got concealed carry in Kansas, the ‘no guns allowed’ signs started popping up everywhere; and, it is illegal to bring a gun into a properly signed building. Also, although the law has been challenged (and may have even been recently changed), the sheeple are not allowed to bring a gun into a courthouse, gubmint office, school, etc., where I’m at.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 7:25:13 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

It depends on the state. Some if the weapon flashes for a second or two it does not break the law. These dumb asses reporting law abiding citizens are the problem. If some one rolls up with an AR or a weapon already out then its time to do something.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 7:26:26 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Puppage

The situation in Connecticut is now getting the same treatment from me as the guy-in-the-white-house is getting. They are overusing it and exploiting the deaths of the people in Newtown for their Constitution-destroying agendas.

I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR IT. Hundreds of people die in Chicago, our troops are giving their lives around the planet and the arrogant MSM and elitist politicians continue to push for taking away our rights.

I am now to the point that I do not care what happened in CT.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 7:49:14 AM PST by madison10
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The Prosecuting Attorney in my town has the following interpretation: Concealed means totally concealed. If a legally concealed carry holder is spotted with a gun on him, it is “brandishing” a firearm and the holder will be arrested and prosecuted. That means even a “flash” (as some people here have stated) will make you subject to arrest. I am not saying this is correct, but I don’t have the money to challenge it.


14 posted on 01/04/2013 8:18:10 AM PST by jim_trent
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Hey JT, what if it prints? If a LEO see’s a bulge on my hip and my permit allows me to go open carry but I elect to conceal but prints then what? Does he have a right to challenge.


15 posted on 01/04/2013 8:29:34 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Scrambler Bob
I think it may vary by state.

In Massachusetts, concealed means concealed. In fact, if you carry concealed and the profile of the firearm can be seen through tight clothing, that's called 'printing' and you could very well be stopped and harrassed by LEOs.

A shoulder holster under an unbuttoned sport coat just doesn't cut it here in Lefty Loonie Land.

16 posted on 01/04/2013 8:35:32 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: marktwain
wow...
this is my hometown.
saw it in local paper.

population in this town is about 1,000...there is NO jobs, everyone either on welfare or retired!! part time Judges in community. and the main store is ‘DOLLAR GENERAL’ town depends on tourism.

left there 60 years ago..thank goodness.

17 posted on 01/04/2013 8:58:02 AM PST by haircutter
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You’d better take a second look if you’re in Michigan. Lots of folks walking around with pistols on their belts and thighs. Some even carry loaded rifles and shotguns on their backs. Open carry right into a grocery store if they needed to. Doesn’t happen everywhere, but it does happen where I live. Identify Target and intent...


18 posted on 01/04/2013 9:11:14 AM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV))
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We regular citizens need to have an armed march on a school with guns, to show that we are not going to let these Lanza types shoot up our kids anymore. REGARDLESS of unconstitutional “gun free” zone laws. We need to stand up to this tyranny. What are they going to do, arrest us all? When will we ever fight back?


19 posted on 01/04/2013 10:14:59 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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Prints is the same as brandishing. The law is vague on open carry around here. Open carry is technically allowed, but brandishing is definitely not. It is the Attorney’s decision to treat as brandishing each and every time a gun is spotted. Actually, it was not really his decision. It was that way long before concealed carry was allowed in this state. The latest Attorney just repeated what has been done since the 1880’s or so.

I have a pocket holster that is smooth on the outside and a .32ACP Kel-Tec inside. Not the greatest, but it doesn’t print. I should upgrade to .380. It would fit the same holster/pocket, but I bought mine before they had .380’s in that size.


20 posted on 01/04/2013 10:29:04 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: marktwain
Another aspect of this stuff is, why not just home school your child and avoid all the CRAP! My daughter had a gun in our house and learned to shoot it. She is now a Deputy Sheriff. One of the many reasons we took her out of school in the first grade was we found out that a 5th grader brought a gun to school and pulled it out at lunch period. We found out about the incident about 3 months AFTER the fact. The school covered it up due to the connections of the child's parrents.

I'm sick of what the kids are taught, sick of how they are treated, and sick of the lousy results for my tax money.

Otherwise, get used to having your child suspended when he holds his finger up like a gun and tells you there is no God. You allowed it to happen. IT WILL NOT GET BETTER. We would have waited her whole school period for things to get better, but they got worse in the school every year. Save your children and home school.

In my opinion, it's America's only hope. People with common sense are outnumbered right now 100 to 1. When they get through with your child, THEY WILL, think you are crazy, think you destroyed the planet, think you are the problem for every argument. Wait till they tell you your truck is destroying the planet, or better yet, take up the guns to stop the killing.

21 posted on 01/04/2013 10:43:24 AM PST by chuckles
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To: marktwain
The school has policies and signs prohibiting weapons, but the state law that undergirds them isn't as clear. That's because the law says, "It shall be a defense that the weapon is possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful supervised school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful purpose."

He may be in good shape IF the court follows the PA Constitution:

I did like the last line of the story.     :^)

22 posted on 01/04/2013 2:07:41 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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“He’s charged with possessing a weapon on school property, a misdemeanor that carries a maximum five-year prison term.”

It sounds like they don’t know what the word ‘misdemeanor’ means.


23 posted on 01/04/2013 4:16:49 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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““He’s charged with possessing a weapon on school property, a misdemeanor that carries a maximum five-year prison term.”

It sounds like they don’t know what the word ‘misdemeanor’ means.”

The Prosecutrix is one of those hyphenated last name Libtards.

Could she also be blond?


24 posted on 01/04/2013 11:03:52 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: jim_trent

Thanks. I usually rotate between my Walther PPKS and my 5shot S&W Revolver both conceal well but I’m always leary about the power factor. Walking around with my 45 is like adding another leg.


25 posted on 01/05/2013 7:19:10 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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