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Michael Medved: Obama’s Fiscal Cliff Sanity Proves He’s No Secret Agent of Destruction
Daily Beast ^ | 01/04/2013 | Michael Medved

Posted on 01/04/2013 7:19:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The president may be a big-spending liberal, but his willingness to give ground on taxes should prove that he’s not out to ruin the country.

The fiscal-cliff deal settled nothing in terms of the desperate, ongoing struggle to bring Washington’s devastating deficits under control, but it should put an end, once and for all, to a bitter debate that’s damaged the conservative movement for the last four years.

With the president participating in successful last-minute efforts to prevent crushing, automatic, across-the-board tax hikes that would have done disastrous damage to the U.S. economy, it’s time for Barack Obama’s angriest critics to finally give up the paranoid fantasy that he’s some sort of alien agent with a secret agenda to wreck capitalism and weaken the United States.

If the president really did nurse a deep-seated desire to ruin the free enterprise system (and the Republican Party along with it), he just missed his golden opportunity.

Had he pushed the nation off the fiscal cliff (as many conservatives feared he would), he could have gained a precious two-fer—savaging the American business community with nightmarish new tax burdens, crushing 30 million new households with the impact of the Alternate Minimum Tax, and blaming stubborn, unyielding Republicans for all the resulting wreckage.

Obama’s willingness to make a deal doesn’t mean that his policies count as wise or far-sighted or beneficial. But his readiness to compromise should prove to anyone but the most deluded nut-case that those policies are not deliberately destructive.

Had the president stood firm on his endlessly re-affirmed determination to raise rates for all households earning more than $250,000, then John Boehner and the rest of the GOP would have refused any deal, taxes would have gone up automatically on every household and business, and the nation would have fallen into severe double-dip recession. Instead of forcing that outcome, the president agreed to exempt the big majority (70 percent) of those well-off families he originally had targeted, freezing tax rates for households majority with reported income between $250,000 and $450,000. Even taxpayers above the $450,000 line will pay far less than they would have paid if the tax system had gone off the cliff—because of big savings on all income earned below that line.

This deliverance from destruction should put to rest—forever—the toxic notion of the populist right that the president of the United States harbors the secret goal of destroying the country he’s been (twice) elected to lead. That idea often connects with idiotic claims about President Obama’s concealed Kenyan birth, hidden Muslim affiliation, radical Communist commitments, descent from Malcolm X or Frank Marshall Davis, control by demonic puppet-masters like George Soros, and so forth and so on ad infinitum (or insane-item).

At its most sophisticated level, the theory of Obama’s destroy-America agenda links to his father’s undeniable anti-colonialist and Third World socialist outlook. In bestselling books like The Roots of Obama’s Rage and his smash hit movie 2016: OBAMA’S AMERICA, my friend Dinesh D’Souza advanced the idea that the president consciously desired to reduce the nation’s prosperity and power in order to make up for the sins of racist colonialism and to foster a more balanced, multi-polar world order. No less a figure than Newt Gingrich, often hailed as the most influential intellectual in the Republican Party, embraced D’Souza’s analysis as “brilliant” and suggested that it accurately assessed the true motivation of the most powerful political figure on the planet.

In the world of conservative media, Rush Limbaugh has promoted similar arguments since Obama’s earliest days in office, insisting that his famous hope for the president to “fail” meant only failure for the new chief executive’s malevolent nation-wrecking aims. On countless occasions, this most influential (and generally insightful) voice in right-of-center commentary has explained the economic setbacks of Obama’s first term by insisting that the president meant to damage capitalism “on purpose.” On one memorable occasion Limbaugh suggested that if a hound gets whacked by his master once or twice he might write it off as unintentional, but if the abusive owner punishes the pet every single day then even a dumb dog knows it’s no accident.

The fiscal-cliff crisis may have accomplished almost nothing in settling our most serious policy disputes but it should put to rest the illogical notion that the presiding chief executive somehow advances his own interests through economic devastation. For 99.4 percent of all U.S. households, the president ended up agreeing to permanent consecration of the same Bush tax cuts he formerly blamed for all the economic reverses of the last decade. He accepted only a third of the new revenue he had demanded as absolutely essential to deficit reduction as recently as a month ago. In the aftermath of the agreement, Democrats seem not only surprised at the scope of the president’s concessions to the GOP, but utterly amazed that most Republicans appear unable to assess the significance of their own gains in the negotiations.

In part, that blindness stems from the lingering fear that any perceived success for Obama involves inevitable harm to America’s prospects for prosperity, because the president yearns to crash the economy as step one of imposing a new socialist system. Abandoning this delusion will not only allow the GOP to improve its political prospects but will foster a more realistic and constructive role in governance.

Barack Obama remains a standard- issue big-government leftist with dysfunctional assumptions about Washington’s limitless power to solve every problem. Huge fights remain as principled Republicans seek to curb his free-spending excesses and the Democratic Party’s unstoppable instinct to expand federal power.

But those fights will go better when conservatives acknowledge that the president qualifies as a typical, vote-buying Democratic politico in the tradition of FDR, LBJ, Teddy Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Dick Daley, seeking power, popularity, and prosperity by spending other people’s money. It’s never helped the cause of limited government or fiscal sanity or effective leadership in Washington for the right to flirt with the inane, offensive idea that Barack Obama is a kamikaze—or commie-kaze—bent on a political suicide mission to steer the most powerful nation on earth toward fiery destruction. With the economy-saving fiscal-cliff compromise now a done deal, that dark vision looks more ridiculous than ever.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fiscalcliff; medved; obama

1 posted on 01/04/2013 7:19:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It is easy to understand why I could never stand this idiot.


2 posted on 01/04/2013 7:20:59 AM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind
The president may be a big-spending liberal, but his willingness to give ground on taxes should prove that he’s not out to ruin the country.

Finally, after four years, some proof! /S

3 posted on 01/04/2013 7:21:21 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve given up on Medved, Hannity, and Beck. I read where Hannity’s rating have plummeted and Beck is no longer on KTTH in Seattle in the mornings.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 7:24:37 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: dforest

Me too. What a shame. He fooled me for a while.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 7:24:38 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Michael Medved can not see that Obama is a Marxist, he should retire. He’s right about most things, but for my taste, he simply thinks he’s too smart. He also occasionally gave the Clintons the benefit of the doubt, not understanding that they, too, like this Marxist narcissist now in the White House, want to transform this country into their image, as Hillary so stated 20 years ago.


6 posted on 01/04/2013 7:25:14 AM PST by line drive to right
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, Mike, wipe that stuff off your chin. You also need a new pair of knee pads. The ones you’ve used for the last four years are getting worn out.
I’m not some ‘right wing lunatic’ that call Obama a communist. I know what the man is, a ‘Corporatist’. He told us in Springfield, Ohio that voting for him would get us ‘revenge’. That is not a destructive sentiment? Hey, maybe, MSNBC has an opening for you.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 7:25:38 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So Micheal not paying our bill proves that ‘he who must not be named’ is not someone who is trying to overthrow America as we know it. That is what he professes as his goal! The GOP has become impotent against his powerful glamour spell that has fallen over the weak of mind.


8 posted on 01/04/2013 7:26:53 AM PST by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Back in 2008, Medved was a McCain supporter in the primaries.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 7:27:21 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: SeekAndFind
With the economy-saving fiscal-cliff compromise now a done deal, that dark vision looks more ridiculous than ever.

I call Bull Cr@p on the whole article and this is just one example why.

10 posted on 01/04/2013 7:27:58 AM PST by MissMagnolia (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Medved has always been way too interested in seeing the good in the other side. In that sense, he’s a useful idiot for the Left. In addition, he has never struck me as too intelligent of a guy. He writes a column like this that bats down a bunch of silly, strawman arguments and concludes that it somehow “proves” that Obama is flexible and wants to get the economy moving. The past four years show that Obama’s policies are horrible for the economy and the future of the country. Whether or not Obama “intentionally” is trying to “destroy” the country is irrelevant. He can hold hands with Obama and sing Kumbaya as we go over the cliff to our destruction.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 7:28:31 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Honest to god, MM, are you THAT F-ing stupid?


12 posted on 01/04/2013 7:28:52 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SeekAndFind
it should put an end, once and for all, to a bitter debate that’s damaged the conservative movement for the last four years.

Given the Republican mistreatment of Sarah Palin for the past four years, that "bitter" debate isn't over.

13 posted on 01/04/2013 7:30:17 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: SeekAndFind
The president may be a big-spending liberal, but his willingness to give ground on taxes should prove that he’s not out to ruin the country.

Congratulations, Michael. You were able to contradict yourself in the first sentence.

Obama realized that he could take half a loaf now, split the Republican party and come back for other higher taxes again very soon. Sometimes you take a partial victory today to get total victory tomorrow rather than trying to grab everything today. The GOPe's surrender may split the party and open up the House to the Democrats in 2014, and I'm not so sure they would mind becoming the minority party just to keep conservatives from having any power.

14 posted on 01/04/2013 7:32:42 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Medved probably has a picture of John Boehner on the ceiling of his bedroom.


15 posted on 01/04/2013 7:36:18 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

Medved too? The way everyone lines up to kiss Obama’s butt,you’d think it tastes just like mamma’s apple pie.


16 posted on 01/04/2013 7:36:42 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If all trees were money trees, Obama would still spend it faster than they can leaf out.)
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To: dforest

For a guy with an Ivy league education, this piece is not very smart.

This deal was a big ol’ wedge which Obama will use to continue splintering the GOP for the rest of his second term.


17 posted on 01/04/2013 7:36:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

“should prove that he’s not out to ruin the country”

Hey Michael!

It doesn’t “prove” any such thing!

These idiots believe they must maintain their credibility by not calling out Obama for his obvious agenda.

If I thought providing Michael a list of contrary evidence would help, I would.


18 posted on 01/04/2013 7:38:14 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: dforest

Ah the voice of reason and nuance. So eager to find common ground that he’s willing to suspend basic common sense. I wonder what 0 would be doing different if he was trying to ruin the country.


19 posted on 01/04/2013 7:38:14 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: dforest; SeekAndFind

Medved lived toooo long in Hollyweird with his head in the sand!!!


20 posted on 01/04/2013 7:38:52 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve never been a fan of Medved’s but just lately everything I’ve heard from him has been astoundingly naive and stupid!


21 posted on 01/04/2013 7:40:05 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

An ex-Dem campaigner, Ivy League elitist, staunch statist.

His radio format is to have anyone who disagrees call in and “debate” him. Yawn.

Our only conservative talk radio station has this self-righteous RINO clown on for three dreadful hours at noon - fortunately an old defunct talk radio station has just come back to life, so I now have a choice driving around during my lunch hour.

A caller was debating him about gun policy once and simply cornered the fellow. Medvid, an in-your-face-about-it Jew, repeatedly, and increasingly feebly, reiterated that there existed no scenario possible that would cause him ever to consider taking up arms against the government. ‘Nough said.


22 posted on 01/04/2013 7:41:04 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Exactly. Is this idiot completely oblivious to the fact that the marxists have slowly, patiently, but inexorably infiltrated every American institution, most recently the Christian church? Is he really unaware of the Alinsky strategy of three steps forward, one step back, or as Margaret Thatcher called it, “the ratchet effect”? They-the marxists-are perfectly aware that they don’t need a Russian-style revolution to implement their agenda.Time, and the indoctrination of each succeeding generation, is on their side, at least until the end of history.


23 posted on 01/04/2013 7:41:25 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: line drive to right
Very arrogant to tell people don't believe your lying eyes and common sense. MM often uses ridicule to push his ideas
24 posted on 01/04/2013 7:42:47 AM PST by opentalk
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To: SeekAndFind
David Limbaugh: The Right's Unwitting Obama Apologists
I hate to break it to those deniers who believe that President Obama's tax-guzzling capacity has somehow been diminished by the fiscal cliff provision to fix "permanent" tax rates. You're dreaming.

Several smart columnists and respected conservative editorial pieces tell us that a major silver lining in the crisis deal just concluded is that by agreeing not to reinstitute the Clinton tax rates (and leave the Bush rates in place) for all but the "wealthy" (income of $400,000 for single filers and $450,000 for marrieds), Obama and the Democrats made a major concession. They argue that if Democrats couldn't do better after Obama was just re-elected and when the debt is so high, they'll never be able to. They'll have to realize that they will never be able to sustain their desired welfare state through raising taxes alone and have to come to the table on serious spending cuts and entitlement reform.

This assumes that Obama and the Democrats have any real interest in reducing spending or curbing entitlements. They have shown no interest in doing so, despite the crushing debt problem threatening the nation's solvency.

25 posted on 01/04/2013 7:43:47 AM PST by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind
Medved never heard of the Cloward-Piven strategy, I take it?

I thought he was supposed to be up on all these things?

26 posted on 01/04/2013 7:50:08 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: SeekAndFind

First,obamaomau is NOT a standard big govt. leftist— he is a committed agenda Cloward Piven, Alinksyite, marxists destroyer of all elements of our govt that do not suit the agenda- preserving only those tools that will do it (ex: Justice dept, immigration)

Second, obamaomau is not done with raising taxes. And continuing to protect the asset wealthy (GE,Capt. Morgan Rum, and Hollywood, GoldmanSachsCitiMorganStanley) while punishing what remains of the EARNING wealthy— forcing redistribution to the govt.

Medved is a creature/slave of Hollywood, and for them he is a “conservative”. But he has no clue about real America.
None. Many many people are being hurt severely by this, and it is for the “ruling class” cooperative RINO,DINO, socialist marxist, corporatists.


27 posted on 01/04/2013 7:51:13 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lost in high weeds, this guy!


28 posted on 01/04/2013 7:53:11 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: SeekAndFind

As you probably know MedVed is a big Sasquatch believer. For real. He’s totally into it. A complete moron. No moron stone left unturned!


29 posted on 01/04/2013 7:53:18 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: SeekAndFind
.. should prove that he’s not out to ruin the country.


< PLONK >

30 posted on 01/04/2013 7:53:33 AM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: SeekAndFind
With the president participating in successful last-minute efforts to prevent crushing, automatic, across-the-board tax hikes that would have done disastrous damage to the U.S. economy, it’s time for Barack Obama’s angriest critics to finally give up the paranoid fantasy that he’s some sort of alien agent with a secret agenda to wreck capitalism and weaken the United States.

Hey Medved-ev, maybe you should go do a bit more research as to WHY we are in the mess we're in. Bush's LARGEST budget deficit was $458 Billion and that happened when Pelosi and Reid controlled the pocketbook. Obama's SMALLEST deficit has been $1.293 TRILLION! Obama's smallest is almost 3 TIMES Bush's largest. We did NOT avoid ANY fiscal cliff and this last minute "deal" will do nothing. The tax increases that will go up will raise $620 Billion the newspapers report.......what they leave out is that this amount is OVER 10 YEARS! So, this "Grand Bargain" will net $62 Billion per year? And we spend over $1 Trillion more than we have per year? Yeah, Obama has NO desire to weaken this country. He is a good and upstanding man. BS!!
31 posted on 01/04/2013 8:04:36 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Empire (GOPe) strikes back.

When are conservatives going to wake up to the fact that the GOPe is part of the team enabling the destruction of the solvency of the USA?


32 posted on 01/04/2013 8:18:42 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Without reading comments, I’d like to just say, if you’ve never heard Mr. Medved’s anger and hostility spewing over the waves against people who question the legitimacy of the birth certificate, then you don’t know this man.


33 posted on 01/04/2013 8:21:10 AM PST by stanne
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To: SkyDancer

Hannnity has no gig. everything’s different now. No one who listens to this has any tolerance for appeasement and schmoozing. It’s not a choice, it is a feeling based on facts of the nature of our gov’r.


34 posted on 01/04/2013 8:23:46 AM PST by stanne
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To: KarlInOhio
"Sometimes you take a partial victory today to get total victory tomorrow rather than trying to grab everything today."

Yep, you're more likely to overcome resistance by incrementalism, like the frog in the boiling pot analogy.

There's also a joke that illustrates it. Two bulls are sitting on a hill, looking down on a pasture full of cows. The younger bull says: "Hey, let's run down there and screw one of those cows!", but the older bull says "No, son, let's walk down there, and screw 'em all."

35 posted on 01/04/2013 8:32:05 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SkyDancer
Beck is no longer on KTTH in Seattle in the mornings.

True. However, I heard that Beck will be on the "revitalized" KVI in Seattle from noon to 3pm opposite Medved who is on KTTH during that time slot.

On a different subject, the way I understand the next 3-4 months and how they will play out, the "hammer" called tax increases on everyone automatically is no longer in play but the automatic spending cuts are in play which should give the GOP the "advantage" in negotiations. If "nothing" happens then the cuts go into effect. The problem as I see it is that Boehner will somehow figure a way to screw up the advantage. I hate being that cynical about this but I am so darn tired of being disappointed.

I still think that one of the keys to winning these battles is to "take over" some major media outlets at both the management level and the street level. It would make messaging so much easier. Even if Boehner stumbled on the right message, it has very little chance of getting reported and IF reported, it has little chance of being reported accurately and in proper context. Look at how all the mistakes the democRATs make get covered up by the MSM but any hint of a miscue by the republicans gets amplified. THAT, my friends is a BIG problem.
36 posted on 01/04/2013 8:50:56 AM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: SeekAndFind
This deliverance from destruction should put to rest—forever—the toxic notion of the populist right that the president of the United States harbors the secret goal of destroying the country he’s been (twice) elected to lead.

Yet, increasing confiscatory taxes on the rich which is an assault on savings and capital accumulation, outrageous deficit spending, inflation, refusal to allow wage rates to fall enough to significantly reduce the unemployment rate, refusal to put an end to illegal immigration,and the government control over the health industry are in fact destroying the country.

37 posted on 01/04/2013 9:02:09 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: stanne

I know it’s not who he is but the way he says things. I had to quit listening to him because of that insipid smirky laugh he had like “heh heh heh heh” ad infinitum, ad nauseam.


38 posted on 01/04/2013 9:02:36 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Understand yourself and understand your opponent, and in one hundred battles, you will never be defeated.
How many of you have been to a re-education camp? How many have had your property redistributed? How many of you are working at the collective?
Obama is a thief, a pickpocket, a con man. He has socialists around him, but he’s no Marxist. How about Pelosi and Reid and Biden? Are they all Marxists? The Democrats throw the socialist baloney out there to scare and distract the Republicans.
Our problem is con men, not Marxists.


39 posted on 01/04/2013 9:09:52 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

michael Goebbells medved can go obama himself.

LLS


40 posted on 01/04/2013 9:10:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Medved has been a commie plick for decades.

It is astounding that some idiots still buy the drivel that he is a conservative of any sort.

41 posted on 01/04/2013 9:14:14 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: stanne

I have, although his treasonous attitudes towards border security anger me the most. He merely masquarades as a conservative on the radio. His buddy Hugh Hewitt is equally bad. Several years ago I actually heard Hewitt admit to a caller that he was a moderate and not a conservative.


42 posted on 01/04/2013 9:26:55 AM PST by MachIV
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To: SeekAndFind
This drivel should prove once and for all to everyone here that have heretofore believed Medved a "conservative," he is not!

I suppose we need to begin to define "conservative" for FR folk as many accept a few people (if they were elected Republicans, we call the, RINOs) as conservative that are simply not.

Unless you believe in the liberty of the individual over government power, you simply are not conservative.

My hubby and I got into it over GWB, whom I declared not conservative but more conservative than his DemocRAT opponent. Compared to other Republicans in the 2000 Primary, however, GWB was not even in the top three conservatives but he was what the "wizards of smart" we're calling "the most electable" as they did Mitt!

People have short memories, however, when the GOP elite claim anyone the "most electable," usually they are not electable at all, so let's get used to hearing elites tell us how much they know compared to us and understand that they might have some degree in underwater basket weaving that we lack but when it comes to "street smarts" our gut usually is right, not them!

I am also offended at hearing this commentator or that one labeled as " conservative" when they are no such thing. They merely are more conservative than, say, Michael Moore!

The fact is on the national scene, there may only be three, four max commentators that qualify as true conservatives.

Yes, there are plenty libertarian/conservative commentators but not plain conservatives.

43 posted on 01/04/2013 9:43:12 AM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: SeekAndFind

Meds is a closet liberal - worked for RAT candidates years ago.


44 posted on 01/04/2013 9:59:15 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: griswold3

Do you really need to use that kind of language to discuss politics in public?


45 posted on 01/04/2013 11:00:51 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Cheerio
Meds is a closet liberal - worked for RAT candidates years ago.

He was more than liberal, he was a leader of the left, a propagandist, and opinion shaping man, and that is still what he does today, except from his new position of the middle, to slightly right of center.

Medved lives to propagandize, and to counter the right, he is always pushing his audience gently towards the middle, always massaging them to moderate.

46 posted on 01/04/2013 11:05:54 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Fiji Hill
Back in 2008, Medved was a McCain supporter in the primaries.

In 2012 it was worse, he was very enthusiastic for Romney.

47 posted on 01/04/2013 11:12:14 AM PST by ansel12
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