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Denny’s anti-gun rift with police ends with apology
BIZPACReview.com ^ | 1/04/2013 | Cheryl Carpenter Klimek

Posted on 01/04/2013 12:03:50 PM PST by SmileRight

On New Year’s Day, several on-duty plain clothes officers were dining at a Belleville, Ill. Denny’s, when a customer complained to the manager that one of the officers was carrying a gun. The Denny’s manager told the officer she would have to leave or put the gun in her car, as guns are not allowed on their premises.

“It’s absolutely a slap in the face I totally agree it’s completely disrespectful,” Belleville Police Captain Don sax said in a KTVI Fox2 report. “I’ve never known anybody that didn’t want a police officer present in an establishment in a business...

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KEYWORDS: antigun; apology; banglist; dennys; guns; leo; police
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This anti-gun crowd is getting out of hand. I'm glad Denny's had the sense to come around. I have no problem sitting in a restaurant next to a cop with a gun. Probably the safest place you could be!
1 posted on 01/04/2013 12:04:02 PM PST by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight

“the safest place you could be.”... Unless you have a dog that he can shoot.

Not sure how I feel about this. It’s good Denny’s came around, but why should cops be treated better than I. Denny’s wouldn’t be apologizing to me if they booted me, and I ain’t never shot a dog in my life, or an unarmed citizen because “he made a threatening move toward his waistband.”


2 posted on 01/04/2013 12:07:33 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: SmileRight

I hope the employee was put on the “Pull him over if he farts” list by the PD.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 12:09:00 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: SmileRight

That was quick, Only took two posts to mention dog-shooting.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 12:09:33 PM PST by wbill
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To: SmileRight

Strange reaction coming from the police in Illinois. They feel it’s a slap in their face even though they weren’t in uniform. However, I suspect they don’t support conceal weapon permits.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 12:10:04 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Doctor 2Brains
“It’s absolutely a slap in the face I totally agree it’s completely disrespectful,”

Quotes can get distorted, but doesn't this sound exactly like gangster speak?

6 posted on 01/04/2013 12:12:53 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
It’s good Denny’s came around, but why should cops be treated better than I.

And THAT'S the real question. Isn't it? The answer is, they shouldn't.

7 posted on 01/04/2013 12:13:55 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SmileRight
except; if your "man's best friend", a dog. /S. ::-\

8 posted on 01/04/2013 12:14:42 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Gangster-speak is becoming the primary mode of communication in American today. Go to the Facebook page of almost anyone under 30. Odds are good that you’ll see a lot of it.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 12:16:18 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: SmileRight

Think of how stupid it is to complain about an armed policeman having lunch in an eatery.

What would those same whiners say about an armed robber?;
Would they complain to the manager? To the robbers’ union? To the robber’s mommy?

How utterly stupid, puerile, idiotic and childish.

IMHO


10 posted on 01/04/2013 12:16:41 PM PST by ripley
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To: SmileRight

My bud is a police officer, and due to his work, he simply can’t speak what’s on his mind. The worst people hands down he’s come across, are these limp-wristed liberals.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 12:18:04 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
dang that was quick (dog :)

12 posted on 01/04/2013 12:20:00 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

and you wonder why people don’t like cops.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 12:25:24 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: wbill

That’s because it’s very common and oh so de rigeur......


14 posted on 01/04/2013 12:28:11 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Forgotten Amendments

“Quotes can get distorted, but doesn’t this sound exactly like gangster speak? “

No


15 posted on 01/04/2013 12:28:38 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
It’s good Denny’s came around, but why should cops be treated better than I.
Well, let's see - maybe it's because they put their lives on the line every day like soldiers do, and EMTs and firemen, etc.
So we treat them a little different, a little better, if for no other reason than respect.
And that's something that is woefully missing from way to may posts here on FR.
16 posted on 01/04/2013 12:29:10 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wbill

Technically only one since post 1 was the original.

But I quibble. Pardon me.


17 posted on 01/04/2013 12:29:58 PM PST by SargeK
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To: SmileRight
“It’s absolutely a slap in the face I totally agree it’s completely disrespectful,” Belleville Police Captain Don Sax said

Welcome to the party, pal!

Now you know how John Q Gun-owner feels when exercising his Constitutional RIGHT to keep and bear arms in public.

18 posted on 01/04/2013 12:30:01 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: wbill

Would’ve been quicker, but he was detained by the thread cops on reasonable suspicion grounds for, and I quote, “lookin kinda funny.”


19 posted on 01/04/2013 12:33:01 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Forgotten Amendments
“It’s absolutely a slap in the face I totally agree it’s completely disrespectful,” Quotes can get distorted, but doesn't this sound exactly like gangster speak?

No.

For once the word "Disrespectful" is being used (and properly!) rather then, "They be dissing us y'all"

Now THAT was gangster speak.

20 posted on 01/04/2013 12:33:52 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: SargeK
Technically only one since post 1 was the original

HA! I considered saying that, but figured some wiseass would come along and point out that it was "Post number TWO" and I should be more attentive to detail.

Sometimes, it's just a lose-lose. Happy Friday!

21 posted on 01/04/2013 12:34:03 PM PST by wbill
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To: SmileRight

If any Denny’s in Houston tried that crap, they would be out of business overnight.


22 posted on 01/04/2013 12:34:09 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SmileRight

If I owned a retail business that was open at 3 a.m. I would definitely cultivate the local cops.


23 posted on 01/04/2013 12:34:29 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: oh8eleven

I was an infantryman, USMC, 81-85, Beirut in 83, and I saw more danger than a donut-chomping GUN CONTROL LOVING cop ever did or will, and Denny’s would boot me and never apologize. EVER.


24 posted on 01/04/2013 12:35:16 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Doctor 2Brains

If the cop shoots the dog, Obama might show up for the buffet.


25 posted on 01/04/2013 12:35:25 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: oh8eleven

Bullhockey. Being a cop or fireman isn’t even in the top ten dangerous jobs in America.


26 posted on 01/04/2013 12:36:50 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: HarleyD

They feel it’s a slap in their face because cops are generally haughty and entitled. No doubt were they on the scene when a non-cop customer complained about being denied service for carrying, they’d consider his haughtiness suspect and taze him in the testicles to be sure.


27 posted on 01/04/2013 12:36:59 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Delta Dawn

lol


28 posted on 01/04/2013 12:39:14 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Lurker

Yeah, I’m gettin’ a bit tired of that line... “put their lives on the line every day.” VERY dramatic, and all so that they can retire after 15 minutes on the job at 80% pay and benefits. Despite my service, I have never once uttered the words “put my life on the line every day.”


29 posted on 01/04/2013 12:40:21 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: oh8eleven

“It’s good Denny’s came around, but why should cops be treated better than I.
Well, let’s see - maybe it’s because they put their lives on the line every day “

I’ve looked at the numbers. They’re job is far less hazardous than others. Professional drivers for instance. Heck, I’m more likely to be killed in an auto accident than a cop is to be killed in the line of duty ...And another thing. I’ll respect those who earn my respect. I wonder how many cops walk up to a car they just pulled over for running 5 mph over and showed “respect” to the citizens who pay their salary, and their retirement?


30 posted on 01/04/2013 12:40:30 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Tublecane

They’d arrest the guy, keep the gun, and then drop the charges after it was explained to them (for the trillionth time) that carrying is legal. Oh, and they’d STILL keep the gun. My God! I will never forget the time a sow pig lectured me about my guns, and how I was unqualified to carry one. This was after a man armed with a carptet knife broke into my car in Alex’ VA, just months after I had gotten out of the USMC infantry, and this fat, ugly, sow had the nerve... Well, you get it.


31 posted on 01/04/2013 12:43:28 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Doctor 2Brains

“GUN CONTROL LOVING cop”

There aren’t that many of them around. The Chiefs have to tow the party line but the line guys generally are very supportive of 2nd Amendment issues.

‘Specially here in Texas....


32 posted on 01/04/2013 12:44:57 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: oh8eleven

They put their lives on the line Everest, yes, though less to protect and serve us but to harass, extort, and smother us with an anarchy of laws. I’ve come to the point with the “War” on Drugs and the Nanny State that cops don’t deserve respect. They’re never where you want them to be, often are where you don’t, and can’t even get stomping the bad guys for the heck of it right.

Used to be you owed authority figures of various kinds—parents, teachers, cops, politicians, judges (who are politicians, of course)—deference. We no longer live in a socially hierarchical society. Maybe that wasn’t ever right, and men in top hats didn’t deserve it when bootblacks called them “Governor.” Certainly we can’t go back now, at least until our supposed betters are replaced by a new generation. Because the ones there now don’t deserve deference. They don’t necessarily deserve spitting in their face, either, so go on a case by case basis.


33 posted on 01/04/2013 12:47:16 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Lurker

Yeah, I know, pizza delivery guys lead the list. Gheeze, get a clue.


34 posted on 01/04/2013 12:51:13 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

I don’t know why my computer made me say Everest, but whatever.


35 posted on 01/04/2013 12:51:26 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: SmileRight
Every law-abiding citizen should be able to open or concealed carry virtually anywhere in this country, and that includes restaurants, schools, churches, airports & aircraft, shopping malls, places of business, public buildings & outside areas, etc.

More Guns, Less Crime.

36 posted on 01/04/2013 12:54:34 PM PST by twister881
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To: saleman

Last night riding the subway here in NYC there was a cop waiting by the door between the cars (its a ticketing offense to walk between the cars) just waiting. Hey why not walk through the train to the empty car with the possibly dead guy that stunk like he had been rotting for a week? No. His job is to fill ticket quota’s.
And yes. all the cars were filed with one exception.


37 posted on 01/04/2013 12:56:23 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Tublecane

I said almost the exact same thing on a thread earlier this week. That respect is no longer automatic.


38 posted on 01/04/2013 12:58:45 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
I was an infantryman, USMC, 81-85, Beirut in 83, and I saw more danger ...
I was an artilleryman, USMC, 66-69, Vietnam 67-68, and I saw a LOT more than just danger.
If we were in uniform in Denny's you KNOW they'd treat us different than a civilian.
And BTW, cops put it on the line every day for 20 feckin' years.
39 posted on 01/04/2013 1:01:26 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

“put it on the line...” Yeah, them donuts will kill ya.


40 posted on 01/04/2013 1:11:00 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: buffaloguy

When I was in the city, ALL!!!!!!!!!!!! the cops were gun control homos. That line about it only being the brass never rang true to me.

I will definitely admit, however, that ever since leaving the city, ALL the cop encounters I’ve had have been GREAT! Still, it only takes a few times being bullied by dumb, fat, non-shooting punks unfit to shine my shoes to leave an eternally bad taste in my mouth.


41 posted on 01/04/2013 1:14:45 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Teacher317

“Gangster-speak is becoming the primary mode of communication in American today. Go to the Facebook page of almost anyone under 30. Odds are good that you’ll see a lot of it.”

I’m 22 and I don’t speak like that nor do any of my friends. Of course, I’m pretty picky about my friends.


42 posted on 01/04/2013 1:16:18 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I was an LEO for many years and never once had a doughnut and all the guys I worked with were very adamant about average citizens having guns. You mistake the crap at the top assuming they speak for the line officers. Similar to being an 0311 and hating your ROE. Semper Fi.


43 posted on 01/04/2013 1:25:58 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: HarleyD

You’d better get your Illinois regions straight. That’s southern Illinois they’re talking about, not Chicago. There are conservatives in this state, doncha know?


44 posted on 01/04/2013 1:28:54 PM PST by MondoQueen
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To: oh8eleven

lol convenience store clerks have it more dangerous than cops.


45 posted on 01/04/2013 1:33:57 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Resolute Conservative; Doctor 2Brains

Try carrying a firearm in Chicago and see how the rank and file police officers treat you.


46 posted on 01/04/2013 1:36:47 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

What city was that? Sounds like a city I’d want to avoid.


47 posted on 01/04/2013 1:36:57 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: ripley

Funny. I’ve never seen a legally mandated no gun sign in any Denny’s around here.

Oh well.....


48 posted on 01/04/2013 1:38:50 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Tublecane

EVEREST!!!!!!

Dang, mine too..must be a bug or something


49 posted on 01/04/2013 1:39:47 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Alexandria, VA


50 posted on 01/04/2013 1:41:04 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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