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GOP scrambles to fix its primary problem
Politico ^ | January 4, 2013 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 01/04/2013 12:49:00 PM PST by Bratch

The disastrous 2012 election and embarrassing fiscal cliff standoff has brought forth one principal conclusion from establishment Republicans: They have a primary problem.

The intra-party contests, or threat thereof, have become the original sin that explains many of the party’s woes in the minds of GOP leaders. It’s the primaries that push their presidential nominees far to the right (see “self-deportation” and “47 percent”); produce lackluster Senate candidates (Todd Akin has almost become a one-word shorthand); and, as seen most vividly in the last two weeks, dissuade scores of gerrymandered House members from face-saving compromise while politically emasculating their speaker.

What to do about the primaries has become Topic A in many a post-election Republican soul-searching session, and now the first steps are being taken to address the issue. For Senate Republicans, that means a modified return to their 2010 posture of openly playing in primaries. A retiring House Republican is starting a super PAC to help House members challenged from the right. And an RNC commission is mulling over changes to the party’s presidential primary.

In the Senate, where at least five GOP losses in the past two election cycles could be attributed to primaries, Republican leaders are planning to intervene in selected 2014 races to ensure preferred candidates win the nomination.

High-profile Senate Republicans are going to try to pre-empt bloody primaries with aggressive, early recruitment and support — effectively trying to clear fields.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Jim Noble

>The first two things, without which nothing else can work, are:
>1) Only registered Republicans, who voted in the last two elections AS registered Republicans, can vote.

That’s stupid; it punishes those who could not bring themselves to vote for a socialist (Romney), either by staying home or by voting 3rd party.

>2) No more “winners” by plurality. “Winner” in the primary context means 50% +1, or more. In the event that every candidate is below 50%, NO delegate bonuses, NO rewards for “winning”. I would also set a threshold of 20%, below which no delegates are awarded.

No winner-take-all — That is a much better idea.

21 posted on 01/04/2013 1:13:48 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Bratch

The GOP Establishment fogies should be tried for treason, because of their actions to attempt to steer the election, they, in effect, buggered all of us!

22 posted on 01/04/2013 1:17:05 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: mrsmith
there won’t be a Republican Party.

I'm more than good with that.


23 posted on 01/04/2013 1:17:42 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bratch

The article and its premise are just so much baloney.

Unless GOPe told him that. Then its just the excuse. They pushed fine candidates off ballot(West) tried to bury others(Michelle) and foisted a pathetically weak candidate on us for the Presidency, who by al tall tales didn’t really want to run.

24 posted on 01/04/2013 1:18:59 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: taildragger

Maybe the New Black Panther Party people in Philadelphia actually had the right idea. You don’t want certain folks in your elections you just show up with clubs.

25 posted on 01/04/2013 1:19:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Bratch
If they really want to fix the primaries, here's how it should be done...
  1. Close the primary to non-republicans.
  2. Put the names of all states in a hat. Draw state names for the order of the primaries. Front-loading the most liberal states is not helping the GOP win elections.
    1. A slight change that could be made to this procedure, would be to give each state that actually voted republican in the last presidential election 2 names in the hat to give them a higher chance of being front-loaded. If the state is drawn a second time, it would, of course, be discarded.
  3. Disallow the party to financing to any campaign until after the voters have chosen their candidate during the primary.


26 posted on 01/04/2013 1:21:20 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Bratch

The GOP “problem” is NO GUTS!

Nobody is willing to stand up to the media critics and their own media consultants.

They need to learn:

to tell them to stuff it
to tell them they’re wrong
to tell them WHY they are wrong

And they need to learn to do these things in SHORT SENTENCES!

Do NOT go on the defensive!

Causing dependence on the state is WRONG!
Public expressions and displays of Religion, is NOT “establishment of Religion?

27 posted on 01/04/2013 1:23:55 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: mrsmith
The 15% RINO or GOP-e faction has proven to be as incapable of compromise as the Democrats in the Senate.

The last primary season saw the 3 lifelong Conservative Republican presidential candidates overwhelmed by 13 non-lifelong Conservative Republican presidential candidates. Even if we'd consolidated to just 1 lifelong Conservative Republican they'd still overwhelmed us.

We need to excise the GOP-e from the party itself ~ just boot them out ~ I propose a corporate coup, rather like a leveraged buy-out. First, set up a New RNC ~ a totally new corporate entity, and Second, invite state Republican parties to send a representative to an organizational meeting.

Some states would not be invited. Some other states would be directed to not send specific personnel as representatives.

The NEWRNC would have all new rules that lodge more authority in the hands of the states regarding Presidential selection practices and policies.

No one associated in anyway with the GOP-e would be allowed to attend any NEWRNC event nor advise any NEWRNC registered candidates in state party primaries.

28 posted on 01/04/2013 1:27:15 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: JRandomFreeper

JRF: “I thought they did that (stack the deck against conservatives) at the convention.”

Yep. And they already have the deck stacked against us in many of the primaries. I honestly think RINOs hate conservatives, especially social conservatives, more than the left. They see us as the anchor that’s holding the Republican Party down.

They’re probably right, but don’t ask me what they stand for. Seriously. I haven’t a clue what a RINO really wants. They’ve proven they aren’t fiscally conservative, and they’re downright hostile toward us bitter clingers.

We’re expected to support their lame ass, moderate candidates (and we do), but they’ve proven in Indiana and Missouri that they’ll actually side with Democrats to beat us. We’re not only warring against the left. We’re fighting the mushy middle! We have no hope against the Democrats if we can’t even wrest control of the so-called party of small government!

29 posted on 01/04/2013 1:28:16 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Bratch

They are so clueless it’s comical. The more they try to stuff RINO’s into DC, the faster the party falls apart. I for one will NEVER vote Republican again unless they put up a true fighter. They can just kiss it all good-by.

30 posted on 01/04/2013 1:33:51 PM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: Gaffer

I vote against Tom Cole (my RINO representative) every chance I get, because he’s a reliable vote for the mushy middle (voted Yes on the fiscal deal). He likes to claim he’s a conservative, but he’s a compassionate conservative, aka fiscal liberal, in the Bush mold. Unfortunately, prying one of these losers out of their cushy DC jobs is a major undertaking.

31 posted on 01/04/2013 1:38:30 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Perdogg
13 years before it had any electorial success.

Don't look to the GOP for electoral success. They have this habit of losing badly. Dole, McCain, Romney...


32 posted on 01/04/2013 1:39:29 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bratch

They’re not trying to fix any primary problem. The people voting for a nominee is not the problem. At this very minute, the powers that be are choosing who the next nominee will be, and then they will game the system so that only that person can get nominated. If that means compressed primaries or extended primaries, that what they will do.

33 posted on 01/04/2013 1:40:49 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you for that info, I thought that the tone of this article sounded a bit too gloating. I was already suspicious as I saw it was from Politico.

34 posted on 01/04/2013 1:45:10 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Bratch

It is funny that if these same establishment Republicans had there way there would be no Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Pat Toomey, Tim Scott, Kelly Ayote, Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, etc. etc. You know, the people that the GOP-e are holding out as saving the Republican Party. The self delusion and absolute cookiness of the GOP-e is alarming.

Was Todd Akin even the Tea Party candidate? I believe the answer is, no, he was not. Truth, who the hell needs that. I swear, the MSM has its hands right up the arses of these GOP-e types and is playing them like puppets. Whatever the MSM tells them to think and do, they do.

Do some Tea Party candidates end up being clunkers? Yes, but just as many if not more establishment, stand for nothing types end up losers. Again, damn the facts, we need to control primaries.

35 posted on 01/04/2013 1:47:16 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Proud2BeRight

Same here. I am utterly disgusted with myself for giving in to Romney after swearing, post-McCain, that I wouldn’t. Well, at least I’ve learned that it doesn’t matter, a RINO won’t win anyway, so I have no need to injure my conscience ever again. I wish Nero II hadn’t had to be re-elected for me to learn this.

36 posted on 01/04/2013 1:50:13 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Truth29

I think the only power that the establishment “right” is interested in is personal power and the power to attain wealth. The “true believers”, such as exist, are on the left.

37 posted on 01/04/2013 1:52:52 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: FlipWilson
Ted Cruz... The GOP-e here in Texas, and one, here on FR, fought hard against Cruz. That's the reason I have the Boot Dewhurst in 2014 pinglist. The GOP-e needs to retire to their ranches.


38 posted on 01/04/2013 2:02:09 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cotton1706

And I suspect that chosen nominee is Jeb Bush.

39 posted on 01/04/2013 2:05:08 PM PST by erkelly (Never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party!)
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To: Bratch
I would love to see Sarah Palin and Allen West collaborate to start a 3rd Party RIGHT NOW, in time for the mid-terms in 2014, to field Candidates in local, state, and National Elections, to oust every GOP-e Candidate at ALL levels to get started.

Then, in 2016, a Presidential run could have a good chance of snow-balling the Candidates of that 3rd Party to counter-balance the Lefties (those with both D's and R's next to their names).

40 posted on 01/04/2013 2:05:27 PM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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