Skip to comments.Ex-Burglars Say Newspaper’s Gun Map Would’ve Made the Job Easier, Safer
Posted on 01/04/2013 1:52:50 PM PST by jiggyboy
Reformed crooks say the New York newspaper that published a map of names and addresses of gun owners did a great service to their old cronies in the burglary trade.
The information published online by the Journal-News, a daily paper serving the New York suburbs of Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties, could be highly useful to thieves in two ways, former burglars told FoxNews.com. Crooks looking to avoid getting shot now know which targets are soft and those who need weapons know where they can steal them.
That was the most asinine article Ive ever seen, said Walter T. Shaw, 65, a former burglar and jewel thief who the FBI blames for more than 3,000 break-ins that netted some $70 million in the 1960s and 1970s. Having a list of who has a gun is like gold - why rob that house when you can hit the one next door, where there are no guns?
"What they did was insanity," added Shaw, author of "License to Steal," a book about his criminal career.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Its a do not rob list.
Well, the media are controlled by liberals and that is not the message they want people to get. They want everyone afraid of guns. Maybe people will now start to realize that criminals rarely, if ever, target those they know have guns (or believe that they do).
It could also be a good place for gun thieves to look after they watch a house to make sure no one is home.
“Its a do not rob list.”
It’s a “wait until no one’s home, and ransack the house looking for firearms” list
Oh everybody goes on the “rob list” — later in the article somebody says they would stake out the gun owners first, burglarize them when they go to work. Bootstrap your way up to a free gun, then look at the map again to see where you can put it to use with no resistance. Kinda like burglarizing Home Depot on the way to a construction job.
Its a wait until no ones home, and ransack the house looking for firearms list
It’s just plain nuts to make this information public.
Even here in Canada, when the Liberals foisted the long-gun registry on us, they had sense enough to make access to the database restricted (law enforcement only). Of course, that didn’t stop information leaking out, or hacks — but, the principle was sound. This sort of information is dangerous in the wrong hands. (Government agencies would also be “wrong hands” — but, that’s another topic.)
Of course, the Liberals weren’t worried about the safety of the firearms owners — they just didn’t want to make it easy for anyone interested in stealing firearms.
That only works in some circumstances... I keep this place looking empty from the front. No vehicle in the driveway, yard a little overgrown. I've surprised 3 that thought it would be an easy place to rip the copper out of. ;)
The NRA and Tea Party should post the addresses of everyone in the Mainstream media.
This list is only for handgun registration.
Some people Only have shotguns for home defense.
There are pros and cons for both which is better fro home defense.
Every victim of a burglary in those counties for the next 15 years should sue Gannett.
Well, if we were living in an alternate universe, we could have the US House do some good by writing legislation making it illegal to release public lists of registered gun owners. Of course we would have to find some US House members that still know how to write bills. Seems like the President and the Senate writes all the bills now.
I keep Casa Pachysandra looking occupied all the time. I even got my neighbors, who have 5 vehicles, to always park one in my driveway. Computer room lit dimly, with the monitors tuned to Steel Guitar Radio.
Put a sign in your yard with a picture of a pistol and the words “We don’t call 911” and watch the liberals scream. But it’s okay if the newspaper does it.
We are indeed living in an alternate universe. Connecticut has just such a law prohibiting public release of gun ownership — and now they want to repeal that law.
The cops around her say “Keep your blinds closed when not at home, and open when you are”. So a burglar will aways hit the homes with closed blinds.
The cops around her say Keep your blinds closed when not at home, and open when you are.
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So, I guess if you leave your blind closed and you are at home the ‘bad guyz’ can sue if they get ‘hurt’ or inconvenienced.
We have at least 1 ‘extra car’ around, plus I always leave a radio on (for the cats) and with the motion sensor lights all I can say “You takes your chances, you may have to pay for your stupidity”.
The fundamental question is does the First Amendment protect the media from torts it inflicts on others?
They need a class action lawsuit against the paper and its officers, editors and the author. They need to lose. I susptect there’s a sharpie just waiting for a victim to step forward.
The cops around her say Keep your blinds closed when not at home, and open when you are. So a burglar will aways hit the homes with closed blinds.
Close the blinds, lay down a bedroll on the living room floor, put an AR-15 by your side and sleep with your ears open....
So kinda like you hunting for burglars...
I wonder if Cabeleas makes a “burgular call” device of some sort...
I agree wholeheartedly with the author, however, a problem also develops because many of those homeowners work in New York and cannot carry their guns with them. So, now I know that ten people in your neighborhood have guns and work in New York.....those are the homes I hit because there is a gun there and no one is home....just the gun.
“There are pros and cons for both which is better fro home defense.”
I like Kel-Tec’s new bullpup KSG-15 pump shotgun with dual magazines. Fifteen shells (seven in each magazine, one “up the spout”). Short for easy maneuverability in-home.
Yeah... except you can’t get one... try finding one. :-(
Thanks. that seems new. looks very cool.
unfortunately pistol grips illegal in NJ.
You could have given your esteemed guests a few pieces of copper at several hundred feet per second, just to be sociable.
That was immediately obvious to anyone with a functioning IQ above 70.
Obviously it didn't occur to that newspaper staff. So much for U.S. "journalism" and its "journalists".
Funny though, that brief time of goblins trying to move into an older neighborhood stopped suddenly, for some reason. Safer places to be for them, I suppose.
What Walter T Shaw and his ilk also know is people who work for the Journal don't own guns...
"Oh what a tangled web we weave... "...
Crooks looking to avoid getting shot now know which targets are soft and those who need weapons know where they can steal them.And burglars, by all means, don't be shy about opening fire on the unarmed homeowners! Just pretend you're a liberal and that your victims are NRA members.
If that were to happen, there would be reporters on the gun owner list. And there would be some surprising names on that media gun owner list. Obvious examples include crime reporters and women reporters who have had nasty divorces.
Some of us who strongly support the First Amendment realize you can't undercut the Second Amendment without undercutting the First Amendment as well.
I've written more here:
State laws differ, and this could not have happened in Missouri. Under RSMo. 571.101.9, qualifications to carry a concealed weapon, which are the only sort of records of gun ownership maintained in Missouri, are not open to the public.
I don't think it could have happened in any other state where I've worked as a reporter. It looks like New York has a damaging loophole that needs to be closed, and I hope the NRA is working hard right now to check the laws of the other states to see how many other states there are where something like this could blow up.
I am normally a huge advocate of public access to government information the government does, after all, work for the taxpayers, not other way around and I have a decades-long history of fighting for access to records that some people don't want publicized. However, I can see absolutely no valid reason for gun ownership records to be public, and it's obvious that a lot of damage has already been done by publicizing them in New York.
The New York loophole needs to be closed.
Didn't realize fertilizer prices were that high.
Well unless they have a forklift, cutting torch and some C-4 they are going to be disappointed in my house.
“- why rob that house when you can hit the one next door, where there are no guns?”
That was immediately obvious to anyone with a functioning IQ above 70.
Obviously it didn’t occur to that newspaper staff. So much for U.S. “journalism” and its “journalists”.
Oh, it occurred to them, alright. They just didn’t care.
I wonder how many people who were not sure about becoming an owner now believe they HAVE TO become owners inorder to stay on the “do not rob” list.
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