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Minister: 'Give Children the Vote'
The Local ^ | 4 Jan 13

Posted on 01/04/2013 5:36:17 PM PST by nickcarraway

A German minister is calling for children to be given the vote, it was reported on Thursday. He said that excluding the country's 13 million under-18s was "absurd", triggering a backlash from other politicians. Dirk Niebel, Minister of Economic Cooperation and Development told the Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung (WAZ), "We must give children a voice - in elections as well."

The current age limit on voting in Germany is 18 which, he said, was "completely inappropriate" although he was not specific about when he wanted children to be given suffrage.

On a practical level, the Free Democrat (FDP) politician said that parents could take responsibility for overseeing their child's vote or even using on their behalf. This would give families a louder political voice and force politicians to take children and families more into consideration.

He argued that denying the vote to Germany's 17 million over-65s would be absurd, yet excluding children, a sixth of the country's population, was accepted without question.

Niebel's idea provoked constitutional objections from his colleagues.

Ingrid Fischbach from the Christian Democratic Union, the governing coalition partner alongisde the FDP told the WAZ that “no one can argue against the idea's charm” but that in reality “voting is a private matter and one that constitutionally cannot be exercised by a third party.”

She added that it would be hard to check whether parents were actually ticking the box their child had chosen.

Thomas Krüger, president of Germany's children's union, said that although he would be in favour of dropping the voting age to 16, and eventually 14, he disagreed with allowing parents a proxy vote for their child.

But support came from Paula Honkanen-Schoberth of Germany's national child protection association who said children should have voting rights as soon as they were born.

She said that children were often under-estimated and studies showed that they demonstrated interest in political issues from as early as the third grade.


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1 posted on 01/04/2013 5:36:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Free Candy for everyone!!


2 posted on 01/04/2013 5:39:47 PM PST by cartan
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah, and let all of my 14 goldfish vote, too.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 5:40:45 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: nickcarraway
'Give Children the Vote'

Here in America, we already have.

4 posted on 01/04/2013 5:41:30 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Ignorant Liberals and Democrats.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 5:42:20 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: nickcarraway

Child labor laws are “absurd” too then. Let’s get those young voters paying taxes to pay for those new ponies and free candy they’ll vote for.

I’ll bet that 13 year old German kids can make iPhones cheaper than 13 year old Chinese kids.


6 posted on 01/04/2013 5:43:13 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: nickcarraway

Why not? In Chicago the dead get to vote.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 5:44:17 PM PST by MCF
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To: Navy Patriot

Yeah like they have discernment and experience to know if they are being deceived at that age by the politicians or not. Oh wait, now I get it...: )


8 posted on 01/04/2013 5:45:06 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: nickcarraway

How about chickens?

The “spiip” vote will be massive.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 5:45:25 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Navy Patriot

Yeah, and they all voted for Obama.


10 posted on 01/04/2013 5:47:41 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: nickcarraway

U.S. Dummy-cRATS to propose the same here soon.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 5:48:46 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: nickcarraway

Hey Jughead! They’re kids. How ‘bout letting them grow up first. Besides, there are already way too many uninformed and misinformed voters out there as it is. You commies need to give the “voter” thing a rest.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 5:51:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: nickcarraway

Give the vote to the unborn.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 5:52:01 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: nickcarraway

Why not? Given the apparent level of voter ‘ed-ja-muh-kay-shun’ in the US, children may be better informed than their parents.


14 posted on 01/04/2013 5:53:14 PM PST by STYRO (Hope you takers don't expect us producers to defend you. War sucks most for the losers.)
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To: nickcarraway

So it is Justin Beeber for President (forget he is Canadian) and the Telly Tubbies for the Supreme Court and lets not forget Barney for Attorney General.

Yeah, yeah, I know, that WOULD be an improvement!


15 posted on 01/04/2013 5:53:25 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: nickcarraway

Hard to believe this is an adult with seemingly an important job would actually suggest such gibberish....

Why not let children drive as well ....?

You know as long as they can see over the steering wheel.....it’s OK


16 posted on 01/04/2013 5:57:16 PM PST by JZoback
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To: nickcarraway
The political party that advocates extending voting rights to the most easily duped is the party that plans to do a lot of 'duping'.

It's too bad those new voters are too stupid to know they are being played.

17 posted on 01/04/2013 5:58:07 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: nickcarraway
Yeah because we all know kids cannot be indoctrinated or manipulated at all!

Right Fraulein?


18 posted on 01/04/2013 5:59:27 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: nickcarraway
A German minister is calling for children to be given the vote

"For, behold, the Lord, Jehovah of hosts, doth take away... the mighty man, and the man of war; the judge, and the prophet, and the diviner, and the elder; the captain of fifty, and the honorable man, and the counsellor, and the expert artificer, and the skilful enchanter. And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them." -- Isaiah 3:1-4

19 posted on 01/04/2013 6:16:01 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Washi
The political party that advocates extending voting rights to the most easily duped is the party that plans to do a lot of 'duping'.

Exactly!!!!

This leftist simply seeks to community organize and champion for a new group of 'victims'...

I am surprised that the kenyan marxist has not advanced this type of "young justice" initiative yet.

20 posted on 01/04/2013 6:24:50 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

I wouldn’t give children the vote.

What I would do is teach high school juniors about running elections then as a senior year project, put them at the polls to register voters and run the polls.

Seniors would be picked at random and will not work in the district they go to school in.

Just eliminated half the cheating and the kids learn about civics. Remember it is for the children.


21 posted on 01/04/2013 6:46:07 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: nickcarraway

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/drdon.wav


22 posted on 01/04/2013 7:12:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You don’t see where this is headed? Age of majority will be dropped to 14 , maybe 12. You know what that means......


23 posted on 01/04/2013 7:17:59 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: nickcarraway

I am in favor of letting parents who are financially responsible for their minor children exercise the vote on their behalf.

Mr. Duggar, here are your 14 ballots, oh 15 is it?


24 posted on 01/04/2013 7:19:40 PM PST by heartwood
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To: nickcarraway
Dirk Niebel, Minister of Economic Cooperation and Development told the Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung (WAZ), "We must give children a voice - in elections as well." The current age limit on voting in Germany is 18 which, he said, was "completely inappropriate" although he was not specific about when he wanted children to be given suffrage. On a practical level, the Free Democrat (FDP) politician said that parents could take responsibility for overseeing their child's vote or even using on their behalf. This would give families a louder political voice and force politicians to take children and families more into consideration. He argued that denying the vote to Germany's 17 million over-65s would be absurd, yet excluding children, a sixth of the country's population, was accepted without question.

Has Niebel changed his campaign slogan to "fifteen and ready" yet?

Wild In The Streets

25 posted on 01/04/2013 8:21:15 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Alex Murphy
One of the great sleazy "B" pictures of the era.

Topped only by the original "Death Race 2000" a few years later.

26 posted on 01/04/2013 8:24:00 PM PST by Publius ("A centralized government is a centralized evil." -- Gen. John Graham)
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To: nickcarraway
They can't even wear their pants correctly and this guy wants to give them the vote? Insanity.
27 posted on 01/04/2013 8:37:25 PM PST by mtg
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To: nickcarraway

Let the kids vote!

And legalize abortions up to the fetus reaching 18 years of age. /S

Seriously, my dog has more sense than most teenagers.


28 posted on 01/05/2013 3:37:13 AM PST by Makana
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To: nickcarraway

Half the people in this country under 35 are juveniles, so I’d say we are doing pretty well already.


29 posted on 01/05/2013 3:41:55 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: nickcarraway

We already give overgrown American children the vote—from 18 until they’re finally off their parents’ health insurance at 27.


30 posted on 01/05/2013 3:57:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: nickcarraway

Raise the voting age back to 21!!


31 posted on 01/05/2013 4:11:13 AM PST by dalereed
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To: nickcarraway

Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius


32 posted on 01/05/2013 4:18:23 AM PST by kanawa (FB-- Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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To: nickcarraway

Raise our voting age to 25 and watch things improve.

While we’re at it, lower the drinking age to 16 but raise the driving age to 21.


33 posted on 01/05/2013 5:00:02 AM PST by fnord (If my liberty is not part of the social contract, I opt out)
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To: fnord
‘Give Children the Vote’......

Gee, by the way the last election turned out, I thought they already HAD the vote. They were stupid, not ignorant. (sarc) As the old saying goes, "Ignorant is temporary, stupid is forever".

34 posted on 01/05/2013 5:05:29 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: snoringbear

I see where it is going and I do not approve.


35 posted on 01/05/2013 5:55:09 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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