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Lawmaker Proposes Publicizing Gun Owners' Names
WVIT-TV ^ | January 4, 2013 | LeAnne Gendreau, Liz Dahlem and Josh Chapin

Posted on 01/04/2013 9:55:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Lawmakers across the state are taking on gun control issues in the aftermath of the school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown on Dec. 14.

State Rep. Stephen Dargen, a Democratic legislator from West Haven, wants the names and addresses of about 170,000 handgun permit holders in the state to be made public.

Names of gun owners are now confidential, but Dargen believes if people know how many guns are spread across communities, they’ll be safer.

State Senator Martin Looney, of New Haven, is proposing ammunition control legislation, which would prohibit anyone barred from owning a gun from owning bullets or any other kind of ammunition.

“A gun without ammunition is only a club. We really need to restrict access to ammunition,” Looney said.

Some gun owners and advocates feel that the federal law that bans the sale of ammunition to felons is enough and enacting it on the state level won’t be effective....

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcconnecticut.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; confiscation; connecticut; democrats; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; gungrabbers; sandyhook; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/04/2013 9:55:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I propose making the names and addresses of government officials publicly available.


2 posted on 01/04/2013 9:58:18 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like a good idea. That way, the criminals will know which homes are safe to hit and we won’t have so many injured criminals.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 10:00:12 PM PST by lurk
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To: RC one

I second that motion.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 10:00:28 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: RC one

What stupid people. It is great that right now convicts are using the already posted info to target leo’s. They won’t think it is so great when they suffer a home invasion because robbers know that they are a rich politician with no guns on site.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 10:01:38 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: RC one
I propose making the names and addresses of government officials publicly available.

That is a good idea, but is probably against the law. Still a good idea.

6 posted on 01/04/2013 10:02:54 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: ANGGAPO

we should start a whitehouse petition.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 10:13:38 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I propose that all Lawmakers have as their bodyguards gay fairy princesses in pink tutus and tiaras armed with magic wands with big silver stars on the ends to protect their charges.

"Don't worry, Thenator! You're thafe with uth!"

8 posted on 01/04/2013 10:14:49 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

State senator Martin Looney. ‘nuff said.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 10:16:35 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

State senator Martin Looney. ‘nuff said.


10 posted on 01/04/2013 10:16:42 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, then publish all his personal data on the Internet: name. address, kids’ names, phone numbers (land, cell), e-mail accounts, bank accounts, house photos, floor plan, security arrangements, arrest records, EVERYTHING! Make his life totally transparent. See if he likes it.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 10:16:52 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

Click the link. Someone DID post his phone number and address...I’m not sure if his personal or not, but it’s there.

Look for the poster “Connecticut Carry, Inc.”


12 posted on 01/04/2013 10:25:23 PM PST by Brads Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This lawmaker is a terrorist.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 10:28:54 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: RC one; 2ndDivisionVet
RE :”I propose making the names and addresses of government officials publicly available.”

Now that is good, makes perfect sense.
Legal licensed gun owners cause us no harm, but government officials do.

14 posted on 01/04/2013 10:29:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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To: fattigermaster

I second that proposal!


15 posted on 01/04/2013 10:43:00 PM PST by Girlene
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To: RC one

Someone should put his Address and a photo of his house here...and His Photo and even where His kids go to school
lets look into his criminal history and any other Law suits...

Because We have a right to know!!!!


16 posted on 01/04/2013 11:16:32 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

make all lawmakers’ personal info freel available. and i mean everything.

let’s’ see how they like it.


17 posted on 01/05/2013 12:39:30 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: chris37

well, he’s a traitor, that is certain.


18 posted on 01/05/2013 12:40:43 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dargan fields angry phone calls over bill to make gun permits public

>>Rep. Stephen Dargan of West Haven doesn’t back down from a fight. When people call and leave threatening messages he calls them back. By Friday at 2 p.m. he had about 70 messages on his home answering machine in response to his proposal to make the names and addresses of gun permit holders public. That information has been confidential since 1994.

“Everytime you try to expand Freedom of Information statutes everybody goes nuts,” Dargan said Friday. But he’s not fazed by the opposition to the bill. “I’m used to it,” Dargan said. “I’ve been a representative for a very long time.” Dargan was elected to the House in 1990. As chair of the Public Safety Committee, Dargan deals with law enforcement on a regular basis. But he said he hasn’t felt compelled to call any police officers to inform them of the phone messages. Dargan let CTNewsJunkie listen to one of the angry calls from a gun enthusiast. “You need to stop this please,” the caller said. “This has gone too far.” The male caller described the legislation as a “hate crime” against gun owners. Dargan, whose home phone is publicly listed, calls many of the callers back and talks to them if their number shows up on caller ID. He said they may not agree, but they seem to reach an understanding. “I’m a middle-of-the-road guy,” Dargan said.

19 posted on 01/05/2013 12:59:39 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: tumblindice

you beat me to it.


20 posted on 01/05/2013 2:01:35 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: chris37

Clearly the intent of this bill is to demonize gun ownership / owners and to publish their personal information so that the anti-gun crowd can harass them. How this bill could be passed or even considered is completely insane but then again so are the majority of Obama supporters.


21 posted on 01/05/2013 2:38:54 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of the anti-gun people are also avid abortionists and strong supporters of Roe v Wade. Ironically, Roe v Wade was decided on elusive right to privacy on which the justices couldn’t agree where that right resided in the constitution. So the anti-gunners are willing to abort Roe v Wade to be able to grab all the guns they can.


22 posted on 01/05/2013 3:07:12 AM PST by monocle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Senario...........if a nieghbor of yours confronts you for owning a fire arm and an altercation arises where the nieghbor is shot dead are these cretans not liable for indirectly inciting this incident, Much like yelling fire in a crowded theater?


23 posted on 01/05/2013 3:40:53 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart)
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To: RC one
I propose making the names and addresses of government officials publicly available.

And their criminal records. And their abortion records. Lay it all out there.

Smear the crap out of them - they aren't above the law. If they want to violate a person's right to privacy, then they also have NO presumed right to privacy.

As they reap, so shall they sow.

24 posted on 01/05/2013 3:44:33 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: RC one
One up, I propose publishing the hundreds of thousands of women’s names and addresses who have had legal abortions. We
all know that the Lib’s just love “fair”. Amen.
25 posted on 01/05/2013 3:47:31 AM PST by gakrak (“If you put the Fed Gov in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.”)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“A gun without ammunition is only a club. We really need to restrict access to ammunition,” Looney said.

Not if you have a bayonet.

26 posted on 01/05/2013 4:01:35 AM PST by real saxophonist (I show my friends my 1911. I show my enemies my Glock.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

is proposing ammunition control legislation...


Well, it finally is mentioned by the gun control freaks...AMMUNITION CONTROL!

I’ve been harping for many years on FR the fact that if they can’t get your guns they will get your ammunition.

The right to keep and bear arms (physical shooting objects and devices to protect yourself) mentions nothing about the right to keep ammunition.....if parsed by greasy, liberal, Marxist judges in the stacked Supreme Court.

Remember the phrase “what is the meaning of is” in the Clinton crime syndicate? Anything can be contorted into meaning something else by slick lawyers.

In this day and age with communism being home grown within Washington D.C. we are in very dangerous times.


27 posted on 01/05/2013 4:15:47 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I propose that all democrat politicians wear a sandwich board with their address and home phone number on both sides along with their childrens’ names and what schools they go to.


28 posted on 01/05/2013 4:18:38 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“State Rep. Stephen Dargen, a Democratic legislator from West Haven, wants the names and addresses of about 170,000 handgun permit holders in the state to be made public.”

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LEO and Corrections officers might not be too happy about that

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2975153/posts


29 posted on 01/05/2013 5:25:33 AM PST by Roccus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why don’t legal gun owners preempt this assault by placing big signs in their front yards which read, “There are legally obtained guns on these premises”.

Seriously, someone’s going to get hurt with this idiocy. Could be someone hiding from an abuser, or a current or retired cop who has enemies who are spoiling for payback.


30 posted on 01/05/2013 5:39:01 AM PST by randita
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ANY information in the hands of government is already compromised. If it suits the desires of governments or tyrants it WILL be utilized.

This will simply encourage non-registration and non-compliance with government edicts. Once you start getting people in the habit of not obeying government edicts and taxes, it’s hard to get them back.


31 posted on 01/05/2013 5:39:07 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: ANGGAPO

I suppose that would depend on how it is done, for instance. All Property Records are Public Records and so are the names of Public Employees and Public Servants, you just need 2 lists(maps) and 1 application to tie them together. No Laws Broken.


32 posted on 01/05/2013 6:20:23 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“A gun without ammunition is only a club. We really need to restrict access to ammunition,” Looney said.

Hey Looney, when you permanently give up your 1st amendment right to free speech, come talk to me about giving up my 2nd amendment right.

33 posted on 01/05/2013 7:04:56 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the do, that information must be correct lest the state be liable for consequence of errors. Seems that list published by a newspaper has a 25% error rate.


34 posted on 01/05/2013 7:07:23 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: DH

I am a firm believer in ammunition control. The quality control system that I have works great. Nothing is more satisfying than knowing that you can make your own ammo that is more accurate than anything you can purchase. Invest in a Lee Precision or a Dillon press. Stop worrying if there’s anything on the Walmart shelves. My Lee Precision spits out 308’s and 223’s that are perfectly matched to my fathers and my rifles. I watched my father put a 3 round group of 52grain Seirra hpbt’s on a dime sized bullseye at 200yds. That’s what I call both gun control and ammo control


35 posted on 01/05/2013 7:33:47 AM PST by RIGHTWING WACKO FROM MASS. (Better to have and not need than to need and not have...my theory on gun control)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
State Rep. Stephen Dargen, a Democratic legislator from West Haven, wants the names and addresses of about 170,000 handgun permit holders in the state to be made public.

Names of gun owners are now confidential, but Dargen believes if people know how many guns are spread across communities, they’ll be safer.

I'll take a wild stab at it and guess... 170,000?

36 posted on 01/05/2013 7:48:28 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
First they say they want to register all guns for safety sake, but the information will never be made public.

Then, after they have them all registered, they change their minds.

37 posted on 01/05/2013 8:09:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: Secret Agent Man

He is, but if my name was on any such list, I would also feel terrorized.

This has got to stop, this country has gone utterly insane.


38 posted on 01/05/2013 10:01:09 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jsanders2001

Unintended consequences:

Very likely that people who do not have guns will decide that the fact that they are NOT protected being publicized will remedy that, and this would result in increased gun sales and ownership.

This works for me!


39 posted on 01/06/2013 6:25:58 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

Wait a second now. If the publicize gun whets names we’ll know who our friends are. Might even be used as a recruiting tool for the new citizen anti anti-gun lobby militia...; )


40 posted on 01/06/2013 6:27:24 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: AFPhys

Wait a second now. If the publicize gun owner’s names we’ll know who our friends are. Might even be used as a recruiting tool for the new citizen anti anti-gun lobby militia...; )


41 posted on 01/06/2013 6:27:58 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell criminals who doesn’t have guns!

Brilliant!


42 posted on 01/06/2013 6:31:12 PM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: airborne
Tell criminals who doesn’t have guns! Brilliant!

Even in California with it's restrictive laws not all guns are are required to be registered.

43 posted on 01/06/2013 6:47:21 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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