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Mark Steyn: The Fiscal-Cliff Mirage. Without meaningful course correction, America is doomed.
National Review ^ | 01/05/2013 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/05/2013 9:36:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The politics of the “fiscal cliff” deal is debatable: On the one hand, Boehner got the “Bush tax cuts” made permanent for most Americans; Obama was forced to abandon his goal of increasing rates for those earning $250,000. On the other, on taxes Republicans caved to the same class-warfare premises (the rich need to pay their “fair share”) they’d successfully fought off a mere two years ago; while on spending the Democrats not only refused to make cuts, they refused to make cuts even part of the discussion.

Which of the above is correct? Who cares? As I said, the politics is debatable. But the reality isn’t. I hate to keep plugging my book After America in this space, but if you buy multiple copies they’ll come in very useful for insulating your cabin after the power grid collapses. At any rate, right up there at the front — page six — I write as follows:

“The prevailing political realities of the United States do not allow for any meaningful course correction. And, without meaningful course correction, America is doomed.”

Washington keeps proving the point. The political class has just spent two months on a down-to-the-wire nail-biting white-knuckle thrill-ride negotiation the result of which is more business as usual. At the end, as always, Dr. Obama and Dr. Boehner emerge in white coats, surgical masks around their necks, bloody scalpels in hand, and announce that it was touch and go for a while but the operation was a complete success — and all they’ve done is applied another temporary band-aid that’s peeling off even as they speak. They’re already prepping the OR for the next life-or-death surgery on the debt ceiling, tentatively scheduled for next Tuesday or a week on Thursday or the third Sunday after Epiphany.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; deficit; fiscalcliff; marksteyn

1 posted on 01/05/2013 9:36:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

60 Facts That Prove The American Middle Class Is Being Wiped Out

January 5, 2013 By Breaking News

The middle class in the United States is being systematically destroyed, and nobody is doing much of anything to stop it. Our incomes are shrinking, our share of the income pie is at an all-time low, our jobs are being sent overseas, debt burdens have soared to unprecedented heights and millions of formerly middle class Americans have fallen into poverty.

America once had the largest and most vibrant middle class that the world has ever seen, but now it is rapidly being shredded. Unfortunately, this is particularly true for younger Americans. Today, families that have a head of household that is under the age of 30 have a poverty rate of 37 percent.

That is astounding.

The truth is that there are not enough decent jobs for the hordes of young people that are entering the marketplace each year. Once upon a time, a college degree was just about a guaranteed ticket to the middle class, but in 2011 more than half of all college graduates under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed. Sadly, statistics tell us that the younger you are, the less likely you are to have a chance to live “the American Dream”. Nearly half the country already lives in a household that receives direct financial assistance from the federal government, and that percentage grows with each passing day.

We are rapidly being transformed from a country of middle class citizens into a country of impoverished government dependents.

If dramatic changes are not made, the middle class in America will continue to decline every single year. What would our society look like if the middle class disappeared entirely at some point?

The following are 60 facts that prove that the middle class in America is being wiped out…

http://www.westernjournalism.com/category/news/


2 posted on 01/05/2013 9:46:17 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: RepRivFarm

Mark Steyn ping

I especially like “The Algae that ate Detroit.”


3 posted on 01/05/2013 9:49:39 AM PST by Conservaliberty (I've written over 200 pages for a novel. But I didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


4 posted on 01/05/2013 9:54:18 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: SeekAndFind
We’re already broker than anyone has ever been ever. But this is America, where we can always do better — or anyway bigger, and broker...

I think Steyn has identified the Obama Doctrine. Or at least the Obama definition of American exceptionalism.

(And in other news: As a concession to Al Gore's green agenda, it was stipulated in the sale of Current TV that al-Jazeera will henceforth be known as Algaezeera.)

5 posted on 01/05/2013 9:59:56 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If courage is the willingness to take a stand and vote for a bad deal because you’ve been painted into a corner and want Obama to fly back to Hawaii at the cost of another $3 million in public funds that could have gone to algae subsidies so he’ll stop tormenting you for a week or two, then truly we are led by giants.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Pass the wine.

6 posted on 01/05/2013 10:09:13 AM PST by Tax-chick (The paint is in the basket with the skulls in there. Don't tell me you can't find it!)
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To: SeekAndFind; potlatch; PhilDragoo

Ad for buying tickets to 0bama Inaug. at site. 0bamunist chutzpah!


7 posted on 01/05/2013 10:32:04 AM PST by ntnychik
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To: SeekAndFind
What’s it all about — algae?

Unfortunately, I think the ass clown in chief believes the hokey-pokey is actually what it's all about.

8 posted on 01/05/2013 10:37:41 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: SeekAndFind
Spending two months negotiating ten hours of savings is like driving to a supermarket three states away to save a nickel on your grocery bill.

Classic Steyn analogy.

9 posted on 01/05/2013 10:45:10 AM PST by A message
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10 posted on 01/05/2013 10:47:26 AM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should put GUN FREE ZONE on their property and persons.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It should be pretty easy to convince people that the way the govt is currently operating is completely irresponsible. Bills hundreds of pages in length voted on 10 minutes after being released? Bills full of pork, no limits on spending? How could they defend this if people started to raise hell about this?


11 posted on 01/05/2013 10:49:42 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Tax-chick
All the meetings and bickering between the two parties always ends with the productive people getting screwed. They should spare us all the drama and just make their dirty deals. We are being destroyed by scumbags who excel in corruption and incompetence.
12 posted on 01/05/2013 10:53:52 AM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: SeekAndFind
We could solve this if the MSM was willing to report facts. But, they are not. They do not even recolonize facts. They think that the deficit is not a problem.

Americans could stand up to what is needed and do it, but most of them do not even know there is a problem because they are told “there is no problem”.

The MSM has become Democrat Pravda. We need to keep getting facts out, and maybe we can salvage the country.

13 posted on 01/05/2013 11:02:42 AM PST by marktwain
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To: SeekAndFind

Fantastic writing by Mr. Steyn.


14 posted on 01/05/2013 12:32:54 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: SeekAndFind
We don't need no stinking course correction.
(The bigger the bundle; the bigger the bungle" )


15 posted on 01/05/2013 1:01:56 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: SeekAndFind
You cannot ignore the laws of physics.

The smart people in America right now are prepping for the collapse.

16 posted on 01/05/2013 1:04:09 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with Steyn that America is doomed. However, after so many years of watching the leftist idiots run this country into the ground, I no longer really care.


17 posted on 01/05/2013 1:09:26 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: marktwain
We could solve this if the MSM was willing to report facts. But, they are not. They do not even recolonize facts. They think that the deficit is not a problem.

Americans could stand up to what is needed and do it, but most of them do not even know there is a problem because they are told “there is no problem”.

Bingo.

18 posted on 01/05/2013 1:14:00 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: SeekAndFind; JLS

bump & a Ping


19 posted on 01/05/2013 6:36:57 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping neverdem.


20 posted on 01/06/2013 8:57:35 AM PST by JLS
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping neverdem.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 8:57:50 AM PST by JLS
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping neverdem.


22 posted on 01/06/2013 8:58:57 AM PST by JLS
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To: SeekAndFind
Is it just for the moment we live?

Government has not only eaten the seed corn, they've dismantled the outbuildings and salted the earth.

23 posted on 01/06/2013 9:13:00 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: JLS

Thanks for the ping.


24 posted on 01/06/2013 9:33:06 AM PST by GOPJ (Our Friends don’t trust us.. Our Enemies don’t fear us .. - Freeper Tilted Irish Kilt)
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To: A message; SeekAndFind; neverdem; sickoflibs
Spending two months negotiating ten hours of savings is like driving to a supermarket three states away to save a nickel on your grocery bill.

If Republicans aren't careful it'll all be over before they smell the coffee....

25 posted on 01/06/2013 9:44:19 AM PST by GOPJ (Our Friends don’t trust us.. Our Enemies don’t fear us .. - Freeper Tilted Irish Kilt)
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To: GOPJ; A message; SeekAndFind; neverdem; sickoflibs

OK, we all agree with what Steyn said, so now what? Many say we should keep fighting, but it seems the other side has already won. Do we go down with the ship, move out to the boonies and stockpile supplies, or try to find some place on earth that is not in the same predicament? I’m afraid most of us will go down with the ship, because the other alternatives are not feasible.


26 posted on 01/07/2013 6:48:46 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: SeekAndFind

Buy. American.

Now.


27 posted on 01/07/2013 6:53:26 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Pining_4_TX; GOPJ; A message; SeekAndFind; neverdem
RE :”For a good example of how Washington drives even the greatest minds round the bend, consider Charles Krauthammer’s analysis on Fox News the other night:
“I would actually commend Boehner and Paul Ryan, who in the end voted ‘yes’ for a bad deal. But they had to do it.”
If courage is the willingness to take a stand and vote for a bad deal because you’ve been painted into a corner and want Obama to fly back to Hawaii at the cost of another $3 million in public funds that could have gone to algae subsidies so he’ll stop tormenting you for a week or two, then truly we are led by giants.”

In the case of this latest deal it wasnt just O who painted Bohner in a corner.
The ‘we don’t want nuthin passed into law’ R cacuas in the House joined Dems in rejecting plan B, and that plan ewould would have keep even more of the taxes from going up than the final bill without the spending.

After that Bohner had little choice but to pass whatever crap the Senate had him. If he didnt he personally would have been blamed for everyones taxes going up, and for doing it out of spite. I didnt see a single House member step up and say he wanted Bohner's job, so much for guts.

There really was no 'principle' behind refusing to enact part of the Bush tax cuts, the ones that rejected plan B called it a tax increase as if taxes would not go up after it was killed. And they never argued that we cant afford any tax cuts without equal spending cuts, they never would.

28 posted on 01/07/2013 7:07:24 AM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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To: sickoflibs
RE :”And they never argued that we cant afford any tax cuts without equal spending cuts, they never would. “

With the exception of FICA late 2011, and they got their brains beat in for trying that. So they wouldnt use that argument again.

29 posted on 01/07/2013 7:11:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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To: Pining_4_TX; GOPJ; A message; SeekAndFind; neverdem
Lets say some Republicans said they wanted to block plan B because they wanted all of our taxes to go up because there were not spending cuts in the same bill.

That would be very unpopular(as when it was used to oppose extending FICA late 2011) , but at least it would honestly admit that taxes would go up if nothing was passed.

But they would never use that because back a year ago Rush said that the idea that tax cuts must be paid for is communist.:

So instead they made believe that taxes would not go up automatically if nothing was passed into law. What principle is that Rush?

30 posted on 01/07/2013 7:25:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
How could they defend this if people started to raise hell about this?

Because I got a free phone and ...

... and what was the question again?

31 posted on 01/07/2013 1:16:53 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: sickoflibs
In the case of this latest deal it wasnt just O who painted Bohner in a corner.

The corner-painting started two years ago. All that changed before this December was how much of a corner was left dry.

I don't claim to have the answer, but the last minute is not the time to realize your strategy should have been to never let it be a contest for who could give away more goodies or protect more people. You have to have a solid strategy before you move the first pawn.

Our people did not. Maybe no such exists.

32 posted on 01/07/2013 1:20:41 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: ArGee
RE :”I don't claim to have the answer, but the last minute is not the time to realize your strategy should have been to never let it be a contest for who could give away more goodies or protect more people. You have to have a solid strategy before you move the first pawn.
Our people did not. Maybe no such exists. “

I have posted your point here many times as far back as 2011.

One factor is that many appeared to believe their own BS, that 2012 was still 2010 and Rs would have another big win. So why plan? Why think?
Rush REALLY promoted this and I saw him miciced here. I never believed it. Rush is still mimicked here unbelievable.

Government shutdowns and Debt limit confrontations have shown themselves to be difficult to win by the unskilled and uncontrolled(=GOP), but forcing Obama and Reid to extend all the tax cuts in the Dem controlled Senate when they ran on the opposite and won was an impossible task. They would never do that, esp for a automatic tax increase they knew Bohner would get the blame for.

My advice after the election was to pass a partial extension for < $250K and another one >$250K ( Senate will reject ) and send both to the Senate and immediately stop the rhetoric that the final bill will raise taxes if all it did was extend some of them.

They should of moved on from this automatic tax increase as gracefully and as soon as possible as to not suffer yet another humilation. In fact I posted a vanity here with this exact advice around Thanksgiving.

33 posted on 01/07/2013 1:46:26 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NOT a principle!)
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To: SeekAndFind
(Steyn art.)
Obama was forced to abandon his goal of increasing rates for those earning $250,000.

Sorry, Mark, but you are incorrect. Obama will just reload people later -- the other shoe has yet to drop, although some liberal columnists like the JournoList RatWeasel, the infamous Ezra Klein (I've seen him on TV -- he really does look like a weaselly little rat, or maybe a zombie rat) have begun to tell people, carefully waiting until Obama had broken down Crybaby Boehner on principles, that the Big New Deal will require vast, vast new taxes, huge new streams of revenue from the middle class -- hell, from everybody -- and Ezra the Nasty RatWeasel tells us how to get it: the hated European Value Added Tax (VAT).

We need that like the Westminster Dog Show needs rabies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2975911/posts

And the kicker is (see thread) that even if the 'Rats take ALL the money, they still can't make their Frankenstein social-engineering-and-welfare monstrosity work out financially. They will break the country.

34 posted on 01/08/2013 2:35:10 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Buy. American. Now.

Why? So our non-productive overlord class can bite the apple time, and time, and time again until all anyone has got is a scrap of the core?

Barter. American. Now.

35 posted on 01/09/2013 4:25:11 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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