Skip to comments.GOP scrambles to fix its primary problem (by stacking the deck against Conservatives)
Posted on 01/05/2013 1:50:07 PM PST by Timber Rattler
The disastrous 2012 election and embarrassing fiscal cliff standoff has brought forth one principal conclusion from establishment Republicans: They have a primary problem.
The intra-party contests, or threat thereof, have become the original sin that explains many of the partys woes in the minds of GOP leaders. Its the primaries that push their presidential nominees far to the right (see self-deportation and 47 percent); produce lackluster Senate candidates (Todd Akin has almost become a one-word shorthand); and, as seen most vividly in the last two weeks, dissuade scores of gerrymandered House members from face-saving compromise while politically emasculating their speaker.
What to do about the primaries has become Topic A in many a post-election Republican soul-searching session, and now the first steps are being taken to address the issue. For Senate Republicans, that means a modified return to their 2010 posture of openly playing in primaries. A retiring House Republican is starting a super PAC to help House members challenged from the right. And an RNC commission is mulling over changes to the partys presidential primary.
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People need to get to your state conventions in force and replace your RNC committeemen. A few hundred votes is usually enough to get it done.
As for the tea party costing the election. A lot more tea partiers won than lost.
I think the GOPe has come to the conclusion that if they offer the freeloaders more handouts and offer citizenship to the illegal aliens, they won’t need their base to win elections. The GOPe is going to get in a race with the commie Democrats to see who can create the BIGGER government.
“I think the GOPe has come to the conclusion that if they offer the freeloaders more handouts and offer citizenship to the illegal aliens, they wont need their base to win elections.”
You’re right, but they will never “out-freebie” the Dems. The Dems are notorious for having no expectations of anyone, and it has crafted this image for generations. The Repubs are wasting their time; see that they’re not wasting our money as well. In the end, all politicians (from either party) are government workers, and behave accordingly: self-preservation is their driving purpose.
The GOP openly declares war on conservatives. Lets see how well that works out for them. Ha ha
Apparently CWII.1 is going to be between the GOPe and the TP.
Time to leave them. Now.
You said it. Exactly.
The Fascists have agreed with the Socialists that to follow the Constitution or to make and live with a budget will not make them rich or famous.
So America is screwed by both sets of traitors.
Good thing there is a Hell.
7 All the bridesmaids got up and prepared their lamps.
8 Then the five foolish ones asked the others, Please give us some of your oil because our lamps are going out.
9 But the others replied, We dont have enough for all of us. Go to a shop and buy some for yourselves.
10 But while they were gone to buy oil, the bridegroom came. Then those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was locked.
11 Later, when the other five bridesmaids returned, they stood outside, calling, Lord! Lord! Open the door for us!
12 But he called back, Believe me, I dont know you!
The preferred GOP-e compliant moderate squishes as opposed to Tea Party patriots.
The Republican Party has shown that it is not the answer
We need solid conservative candidates who can complete a sentence without sticking their big fat foot in their politically clueless mouth.
We will and must crush them!
The GOP is done and needs to be replaced with the Tea Party.
I agree that the GOP is done. It's principal purpose seems to be to reelect
incompetents incumbents. We have seen how that works.
However, the "Tea Party" is not a political party and it is not useful to pretend that it is. Call it anything you wish, but we need an actual party, capable of putting conservative candidates on Federal, State and local ballots and helping them to win elections.
I have heard lots of moaning and groaning, but have seen precious little movement in that direction. Will we wait until January of 2016 to get started? That's not a great way to proceed.
I didn’t leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me.
There is one party that comes in two flavors. There is a radical, fast track flavor. There is a slightly less radical, slightly slower flavor.
They both taste bad.
Todd Akin was Michelle Bachmann’s and Mike Huckabee’s choice, but not the choice of the tea parties.
So the RINO's put forth the false flag that conservatives cost them the election. The truth is that the DINO RINO Oligarchical crooks cannot allow a law abiding honest citizen to ever assume the office of Presidency.
The GOP fight against Conservatives will only make the GOP weaker.
How do Republicans think they will get elected if there aren’t enough of us left in the party to elect them. They are committing political suicide by fighting Conservativism.
I know I am ready to leave, Just waiting for somewhere to go, The GOP has left me.There are thousands like me and they are creating more every day. If GOPe leaders expect to get elected in the future they better start thinking about becoming the democrats they really are or they will find themselves standing in the rain with nothing over their heads.
I agree and we must take the Tea Party to the next step.
We have 2 years ahead of us and I hope that it is made use of.
Anyone who thinks that the GOP is salvageable has not been paying attention for the past several years. It’s time to take the grass roots movement national.
We can’t beat the GOP on a level field but we can keep picking them off and putting people who represent us in GOP seats.
We also have to deal with the collaborators who talk about being tea partiers but happily work to destroy them.
In the increasingly unlikely event that there is a GOP candidate who represents us, by all means we should vote for and otherwise support him. If there isn't, we need to have the means necessary at least to try to have someone who does represent us beat the GOP candidate.
That requires a party structure. With only a few victories in that at the State and Federal levels, there may be a fair chance to begin to turn the GOP more in our direction and thereby to get a more level playing field.
I have lived in NE Ohio as an adult for 35 years. I have been a registered republican all that time. I am still waiting for the first invitation from the Ohio GOP to come attend a meeting, get involved, volunteer, whatever. Clearly, the GOP couldn't care less about grass roots members. Their GOTV effort was a pathetic abortion. That in a nutshell, btw, is why Romney ate shit in November.
We need a new party, one that voluntarily imposes term limits on itself.
We have the choice between federal (commie) socialists and local (fascist) socialists. And we have another choice: neither. Be frugal, and save. Let them default. Laugh at every one of them going through foreclosure and leaving. Let them each throw the usual tantrum. It will be the political/regulator class that will riot, obviously (as seen in Greece and other places). Prepare to take some time out at home, when they do.
I suggested that here just a few days after the election debacle.
Rather than try to keep incumbents perpetually in office, the New Party should do the reverse: there should be no New Party support for any House incumbents reelection after he has served one, or perhaps two, terms as a member of the New Party. Being a CongressCritter should not be a career; it should be a brief period of service to the country perhaps four years for members of the House and six years for Senators followed by return to being a private citizen. If, following that period, he wants to run again, New Party support should depend on what he did while in office and what he did when he got back home. Was he effective in promoting New Party principles while in office? Good. Did he go to work with or for a company at which he had shoveled pork while in office? Bad. Did he spend much of his leisure time talking with former and hopefully future constituents to probe their views as well as give them his? Good. Did moral shortcomings or too many gaffes cause him to fall on his face and become unelectable? Bad.
The idea obviously needs to be fleshed out, but it's a start. Now, we need some folks capable of doing something about it.
BINGO! They have gone the way of the Press...they are NOT what they used to be...merely a poor corrupted shadow dancing on the walls of Marxism while the flames of statism consume our Constitution.
I know what side I'm on, and thanks to these competing groups I'll know which candidates to vote for and which ones NOT to vote for.
“I think the GOP is a closed group, a bunch of assholes who don’t really care about winning, or expanding their base.”
Artfully stated and dead on accurate too. They have been this way for a long time.
Reagan was an anomaly in the GOP stream of insipid, tired mush. Someone like Reagan will NOT be allowed to rise again in the Rockefeller/Rove/Romney GOP. Never.
Time to bolt.
If you think conservatives were ever part of the process in the beginning you are delusional.Were you one of those people who claimed that romney was the only candidate that could/would beat obumer?
Absolutely NO MORE holding my nose and voting 'R'.
I did not vote for Romney, and I will not vote for the next Romney, or the one after that. Never again.
I think 2 terms for Congress and 1 term for the Senate is great. However, I would not want ANYONE elected for thart office again. A congressman coukd run for the senate—but not for congress again. Term limits would apply at the local and state levels as well. Professional politicians are the problem.
Todd Akin was Michelle Bachmanns and Mike Huckabees choice, but not the choice of the tea parties.
Yep, I wish Sarah Palin’s pick (Sarah Steelman) had won the primary—she’d be Senator Steelman today.
So when, where and how are we going to do something about it?
Absolutely not. I never got on board with RINO Romney, nor with ABO. I went from Palin to Santorum (lukewarm) to 'None of the Above' on election day.
Exactly and I have shouted that for years.
There are no political solutions to the problems that the USA faces. So what the GOP does now is just a fart in the wind. The die is cast there will be blood at some point and a solution will be found probably on the battlefield of CWII.
“The GOP openly declares war on conservatives. Lets see how well that works out for them.”
It will work out just as it did this time except their liberal man will win the primary faster based on their “new” plan and conservatives will do as they did this time and vote for him, and that includes most Freepers, and he will lose just as this one did.
I can hear it now - “You Freepers HAVE to vote for the liberal R or you are voting for Clinton (or whomever)”, “Clinton (or whomever) thanks you for your vote.”
I can say right now with gusto - I don’t vote for liberals.
The Repubican Party is no longer a conservative party and that is the truth.
Here’s a good place to start:
Philip Blumel, US Term Limits
It seem like the Left infiltrated the GOP and then became the GOP-E. No way they "evolved" from conservatism.