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White House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings
The Washington Post ^ | Saturday 5 January 2013 | Philip Rucker

Posted on 01/05/2013 10:59:41 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/05/2013 10:59:50 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Decisive win?” Washington Compost!


2 posted on 01/05/2013 11:06:32 PM PST by Blacksheep (There are no coincidences......)
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To: MinorityRepublican
So the Obama Syndicate is seeking to infringe on the law-abiding citizen's right to bear arms. When does the action of a crazed kid give the right of government to infringe on our Constitutionally protected rights? Answer: Never.
3 posted on 01/05/2013 11:13:40 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think it is fine for the government to weigh broads and control their guns just so long as they leave mine alone.I can think of a few broads they can start with like Hillary, Feinstein, Boxer, Sanchez, just to name a few.


4 posted on 01/05/2013 11:18:43 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: jonrick46

I may decide to become a law-breaking citizen!


5 posted on 01/05/2013 11:23:50 PM PST by JaguarXKE (Welcome to the new America.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

(yawn)
None of this crap will happen.
Only when the political scum get serious will there be any real “reform”. That means JAILING anybody who carries a gun in the commission of a robbery for a minimum of, say, 5 years. No probation, no parole, no longer ever to be allowed to own a gun.

Leave regular people alone and spank criminals hard. That’s the only viable - - and fair - - way to address gun violence.


6 posted on 01/05/2013 11:27:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“No probation, no parole, no longer ever to be allowed to own a gun.”

A person has a right not to be killed. That means he has a right to carry a gun.

Even felons cannot be denied their God-given right not to be killed, unless their crime carries the death penalty.


7 posted on 01/05/2013 11:35:52 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

really trying to start another civil war. just amping up the pressure. on purpose. the wole newtown thing is contrived and another fast and furious piece of bs.


8 posted on 01/05/2013 11:38:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I thought he was on his 21st vacation. He doesn’t run anything. Who is running this so called Administation?


9 posted on 01/06/2013 12:00:41 AM PST by DISCO
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To: DISCO

10 posted on 01/06/2013 12:25:46 AM PST by GraceG
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To: DISCO

jarrett is still at the wh i believe.


11 posted on 01/06/2013 12:31:02 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: dsc

Horse manure.
If you use a gun to rob somebody, screw you. No gun for you again, ever.


12 posted on 01/06/2013 12:34:08 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MinorityRepublican

The White Hut can kiss my a$$, any further abrogation of my right on the part of the Kenyan Klown is an open admission of the illigitimacy of USfedcorp.


13 posted on 01/06/2013 1:16:32 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: gnarledmaw
or an admition anyway....

I need to stop posting after midnight...

14 posted on 01/06/2013 1:39:44 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: All
Posted earlier on FreeRepublic HERE.

I point this out so people can view the many comments there.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

15 posted on 01/06/2013 3:52:58 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

You want to impress us? try taking guns from the inner city gangbangers and drug gangs across the US. I THOUGHT SO! So we can only assume that the “new” gun ban/grab is for the law abiding citizen because it is a threat to thier existance, plain and simply put!


16 posted on 01/06/2013 4:11:11 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart, Concord and Lexington America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Obama’s advisers have calculated that the longer they wait, the more distance there is from the Newtown massacre and the greater the risk that the bipartisan political will to tackle gun violence will dissipate . . . gun-control advocates are growing impatient with a legislative process that is just beginning . . . “As we get involved in these ad nauseam debates over the Second Amendment, our children are still at risk,” said Jon Adler, national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association. “Debating is not the action verb we need to protect our children.” . . . Adler, who has submitted recommendations to Biden’s group, said he has told administration officials that they need to pursue multiple measures to increase their chances of success. “We can’t put all our protection-effort eggs in one basket with one piece of legislation,” he said. “We’ve got to do more than that.”

Translation: We've need a legislative tsunami to overwhelm the public and use the great opportunity of them dead kids. Hurry, hurry.. the next time may be a car or truck running over 20-30 kids in the school yard. Who cares about that? We can't us those dead kids and people will forget the dead kids we need. Hurry up!

17 posted on 01/06/2013 5:24:38 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“never waste a good crisis”


18 posted on 01/06/2013 5:42:19 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: MinorityRepublican

TPMDC

White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory

Benjy Sarlin January 4, 2013, 4:04 PM 91416

The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade.

While the fiscal cliff has dominated Washington’s attention in recent weeks, lawmakers and activists are laying the groundwork for their big push. Vice President Joe Biden, tasked with heading a commission to investigate gun violence, has been quietly meeting with experts, interest groups, and public officials and is expected to release a set of recommendations within weeks. Boston mayor Thomas Menino, co-chair of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told the Boston Herald this week that an optimistic Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”

“We had been led to believe their report would come by end of January, but we’re hearing they may want to have something out by January 15, even quicker than expected,” Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told TPM.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/white-house-nra-gun-victory.php


19 posted on 01/06/2013 5:59:18 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: MinorityRepublican

Track the movement and sale of weapons = F&F


20 posted on 01/06/2013 7:18:46 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: MinorityRepublican

There isn’t going to be any new gun control. Neither house of Congress is going to do diddly. The mood of the country is totally opposed to gun control and the pols know it. One thing they all know how to do is stick their finger in the wind.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 7:30:29 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
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22 posted on 01/06/2013 8:18:09 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Lancey Howard
Lancey Howard said: "If you use a gun to rob somebody, screw you. No gun for you again, ever."

You don't really believe that there has ever been even ONE felon who was prevented from being armed because of the law do you?

Why are you willing to put up with the BATFE and the NICS for such meager gains? I support death penalties. I support tatooing "VIOLENT FELON" on the foreheads of such, and I support some limited liability for intentionally transferring of a gun to a person with such a tatoo.

But I don't support the de facto gun registration created by the FFL system, I don't support waiting periods, I don't support requiring a permit to carry a gun, I don't support nonsensical quizzes on gun safety that cost $25, I don't support disarming the adults responsible for the safety of our children, and I don't support banning three-ounce plastic pistol grips on rifles.

Do you support all those infringements? By doing so you lend credence to the call for the incremental nonsense we see happening now. There is no "reasonable restriction" clause in the Second Amendment.

Please tell me where your "Line in the Sand" is. Your support for the present nonsense will inevitably lead to every state having Kalifornia's 68 pages of gun laws or much, much worse.

23 posted on 01/06/2013 11:12:13 AM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell

You made quite a leap there.
OF COURSE criminals are going to obtain, possess, and likely use guns again after they are released. And if they are nailed in possession of a gun, then BACK to jail for a minimum of TEN years. And so forth. Build more prisons to warehouse the scum. Whatever.

But gun registration of any kind is a non-starter. I never even suggested it.


24 posted on 01/06/2013 11:32:44 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“If you use a gun to rob somebody, screw you. No gun for you again, ever.”

If the law does not order the execution of a person, it should not deprive him of his right to self-defense.

If you want to ensure that an armed robber never again owns a gun, you should lobby to have armed robbery punished with the death penalty.


25 posted on 01/07/2013 12:50:27 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
If you want to ensure that an armed robber never again owns a gun, you should lobby to have armed robbery punished with the death penalty.

That's a little harsh, even by my standards.
(shrug)
No, I'm fine with an armed robber just going back to jail for a long stretch if he's caught in possession of a gun.

26 posted on 01/07/2013 2:00:36 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

So, a criminal who uses a gun to commit a crime forever loses his God-given right not to be killed?


27 posted on 01/07/2013 3:01:49 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
So, a criminal who uses a gun to commit a crime forever loses his God-given right not to be killed?

No. He loses his right to possess a gun.

28 posted on 01/07/2013 8:27:34 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“No. He loses his right to possess a gun.”

Same thing. As they used to say in the 19th century, “God made man, but Sam Colt made them equal.”

No gun, no self-defense. One’s right not to be killed is nullified.


29 posted on 01/08/2013 12:07:59 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
No gun, no self-defense. One’s right not to be killed is nullified.

(shrug) That's the criminal's problem.
He shouldn't have used a gun to rob somebody if he didn't want to lose the right to possess one. Tough crap for him.

30 posted on 01/08/2013 12:14:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“That’s the criminal’s problem.”

I would see it as a problem for anyone with an interest in a just society.

Either make a law calling for his execution, or let him live.

I lean toward execution, myself.


31 posted on 01/08/2013 12:29:56 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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