Skip to comments.Obama to draw on public support in new round of economic battles (What is Hussein's fiscal plan?)
Posted on 01/06/2013 6:38:55 AM PST by Libloather
President Obama intends to take a confrontational approach with Republicans in future economic battles by using the same campaign-style events the White House saw as effective in the fiscal-cliff fight.
Many in Obamas party believe that he got the upper hand in the recent deal to avoid the mixture of across-the-board tax hikes and spending cuts, and that the aggressive approach helped build his public case.
Sources close to Obama say he can fend off Republicans for several reasons: his successful reelection; polling suggesting public support for many of his positions; and division among Republicans on Capitol Hill.
Jen Psaki, who served as a press secretary during both of Obamas presidential campaigns, said that the biggest lesson the president learned from his first term was the power of the American people and the importance of having the will of the American people behind you.
In practical terms, that means taking the argument on the road, taking the time, as he did before the fiscal-cliff deal, to explain the stakes... and to use real-world examples of how certain fights impact the middle class, she added.
Yet there are risks to the approach as well. A Jan. 31 rally Obama held at the White House during which supporters cheered the president on as he scolded Republicans angered the GOP just as sensitive talks with senators were taking place. Republican senators warned it could cost the president votes, though in the end it appeared it did not.
Obamas supporters want him to press his case forcefully. The left criticized the president during his first term, saying the prodigious organization that had been built up during his 2008 campaign was harnessed only sporadically, if at all, when it came to governing.
Team Obamas desire to keep the campaign infrastructure alive and vibrant was evident last week, when 2012 campaign manager Jim Messina sent out an email blast to supporters with a video of the president talking about the merits of the fiscal-cliff deal.
But any sense of triumphalism over Republicans could spark a backlash in Congress and erode Obamas image among centrist voters as someone committed to forging bipartisan consensus.
Republicans have long argued that the idea of Obama-as-conciliator is a self-serving fiction put forth by the White House. In recent days, The Wall Street Journal has run two op-eds by prominent conservatives Fred Barnes and Peggy Noonan insisting that Obama talks the talk but does not walk the walk when it comes to bipartisanship.
At Mr. Obamas campfire, he gets to sing Kumbaya solo while others nod to the beat, Noonan wrote.
The presidents aides firmly deny the characterization.
The president has demonstrated repeatedly his willingness to find common ground, one senior administration official said. Hell continue to do that, Im sure. The negotiating positions he takes are in the best interests of the middle class. That will continue to be his North Star.
Obama aides justify his refusal to negotiate over raising the debt ceiling in a similar fashion. The president has twice in the last week issued unambiguous statements asserting that Congress needs to do what is required to increase the national debt limit, without any quid pro quo attached.
At a brief White House press conference after the fiscal-cliff accord was reached, Obama said: I will not have another debate with this Congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that theyve already racked up through the laws that they passed. Let me repeat: We cant not pay bills that weve already incurred.
In his weekly address, recorded in Hawaii and released on Saturday, he made a similar statement, warning against the dangerous game of Congress declining to raise the ceiling until the last moment, as happened in the summer of 2011.
The last time Congress threatened this course of action, our entire economy suffered for it, he said.
Obama aides insist that this is not political posturing. One administration official said the president will definitely not come to the negotiating table. Full stop, the official emphasized.
Republicans argue that the president might have little choice, however, lest the public blame him for intransigence.
They also argue that other Obama priorities, notably immigration reform, are achievable, but only if Republicans can be persuaded of their merits.
Asked if the most recent negotiations had poisoned the well around the Capitol, GOP strategist Dan Judy replied, I think the well was poisoned long before the fiscal-cliff fight. There has been a lot of poison dumped in that well, most notably Obamacare.
I think that is really too bad, because there is an opportunity for bipartisan consensus on a lot of these things, especially immigration reform, Judy added. If the president really wants to bring along some Republicans on immigration reform, he can do it. But it is incumbent upon him to go to them wanting their help, not offering the kind of my way or the highway approach weve seen before.
Democratic strategist Jamal Simmons, however, made light of the idea that sharp, campaign-style rhetoric could by counter-productive.
This aint nursery, he said with a laugh. The Republicans have been known to use fairly heated rhetoric themselves. When the Tea Party was out in front of the Capitol or turning up at Democrats town halls, the Republican Party was not upset by that level of political activity. Thats what youre supposed to do.
In terms of legislative realities, Simmons also noted that last weeks deal set a potentially useful precedent for Obama. Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) jettisoned his usual insistence that he would only bring forth legislation that could win the approval of most of his own conference.
Boehner did not have to live by the rule of getting the majority of Republicans, Simmons said. Some of these big bills are things that are good for the country and he can get them passed with Democratic votes. This is a precedent for bills to be passed by a majority of the House rather than a majority of the majority.
Still, the question about Obamas willingness to make concessions is hotly disputed across the political divide.
Psaki insisted that the president had expressed an openness to reforming programs cherished by Democrats, including Social Security.
He has reached out an olive branch and hes shown hes willing to make tough choices, she said. But she added, Hes also not going to cut programs that have a dramatic impact on the middle class.
To Judy, the Republican strategist, Obamas olive branches have always looked illusory, part of a sleight-of-hand in pursuit of political gain.
I think his press conferences and campaign events are symptomatic of a larger disease, which is his unwillingness to strike a deal. If you talk to Republicans, its his inability to negotiate with them in good faith that is really what upsets them, he said.
The fundamental problem is that hes not willing to make a deal.
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Being black is his plan. Why not? It’s worked for everything else that’s come up in his life.
Exactly the point - no budget/no plan = nothing to talk about. The lack of a budget is what allowed the Dims and their Zero to run up so much debt and hide away so much slush money - each continuing resolution was an opportunity to take the People to the cleaners for a new round of "laundering".
This is made to order for the “1st Idiot” who is always in campaign mode anyway.
Governing by campaigning.
Not anywhere that can't be denied. It is the Alinskite strategy of crashing the system. Endless debt will destroy the US and the revolutionaries believe they can rebuild their dream on the ashes. I think that conservatives are beginning to think they too can rebuild after the crash, but their vision of what can be rebuilt is very different. Either way, a great tribulation is coming with Obama leading the country over the cliff.
Just like other husseins this one plans to simply take other people’s property to clothe himself in opulence. He and his 3 witches will enjoy living like kings and queens at taxpayers expense. It seems that all Husseins are basically alike. Mugabe is their icon and model.
Obama is simply recycling the failed bad policies of the Left. He is doing great harm. However it is not clear if the Republicans have the strength or the political skills to stop or even moderate him. The sad tragedy is that America will become less prosperous and less tolerant. Social justice correlates with the production of wealth. The time has come not only to oppose this clown, but to mock him mercilessly.
Hemorrhagic, feverish spending to continue, supported by both Parties.
Rules for Radicals playbook
Harry Reid just tells his trained monkey to demand more than Harry wants.
Obama is too inept to do any more.
Doubling down on ineptocracy.
It does sound a bit silly to promote as a political tactic the concept of “mocking a politician mercilessly.” However political history has shown, it is effective. Nixon’s career was adversely affected by the Left’s endless parodies and guerrilla like harassment. This was effective in molding the opinion of the unsophisticated especially the young. Carter and Bush I, to a lesser extent were hurt by mocking. Today virtuous conservatives are in a minority. Creative mocking will hamper Obama.
His plan may be summed up in two words..."Cloward-Piven".
in other words, obama will continue to ramp up anger and envy and class warfare, dividing Americans against each other, because this is what “community organizers” do
this sorry excuse of a man is what will be leading the free world for the next 4 years
Just remember that this is the guy that by his own admission can’t grasp math above the 7th grade level..........
I am not so sure anymore about what game they are playing, other than it does result in the destruction of our country.
They are using some strategies we recognize, but even some progressives are starting to realize the endgame is not what they thought. In fact, it is being done wrong per se.
Freeper Lorianne posted this the other day:
Wake Up Call Next Bubble To Burst: Government Spending
As usual there is a bevy of FReepers that made comments, but I doubt they took the time to listen to the podcast given the source. I did listen to the podcast and was pretty shocked at the point of view being espoused. If what this guy says is true according to the progressive agenda, then I’m not sure where the regime is taking us?
I know it is not gross incompetence, because too many pieces of legislation fit together for a controlled collapse. But...my concern about what emerges post collapse is changing based on that podcast. If the useful idiots are just now realizing something is horribly wrong...then where are we really going? What is the real endgame?
Because it is NOT anything we currently think it is. Destruction of the Republic is not the war, it is just another battle in the game.