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A recipe for activism against efforts at gun control
americanthinker.com ^ | 6 January, 2013 | Lee DeCovnick

Posted on 01/06/2013 10:19:08 AM PST by marktwain

"Obama Plans Broad Gun Control" screamed the Drudge Report headline. So what actions can a responsible gun owner take to stop this legislative insanity? There are, of course, the accepted channels of communications: email and phone calls to your two Senators and the Representative from your Congressional district. Having once worked as an idealistic political intern in a legislative office, I was flabbergasted at the utter contempt that the staff and "my" legislator held for the ordinary voters of the district. Respect was only paid to the large financial donors and their minions.

Emails and phone calls may have a modest but fleeting effect on most ordinary Congressional votes. However, the Obama Gun Grab is not an ordinary vote. This legislation is a direct assault on the 2nd Amendment, personal firearm ownership, and certainly paves the way for the indefinite detention of disarmed undesirable political and religious opponents and their families.

So, what actions can a responsible gun owner take to stop this legislative insanity? First and foremost, accept that you have fears and channel that anger and outrage into a productive and effective plan to defeat this legislation. Humans have an instinctual fear / threat reaction that saved our Pleistocene ancestors on the plains of Africa. Today gun owners must not wave weapons in the air and jabber mindlessly at those who wish to disarm us.

We are still thinking citizens of this great nation, not a mob. We must act calmly and rationally. We must let our legislators know exactly what the electoral consequences of their votes will be. Period. Everything else is just the mis-allocation of American gun owner resources. Money, time and stick-to-itiveness are exactly what is needed to defeat B. H. Obama's gun grab.

Ok here is a recipe on how

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It is a good idea. It needs to be done pretty quickly, however. The whole strategy behind the left's plan on this is doing it very quickly.
1 posted on 01/06/2013 10:19:16 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

And while we are doing all these nice things, the Communists are screaming, hollering, stirring up the people to demonize us.

When are people going to get it through their thick skulls that elected officials don’t give two hoots in hell what the people do or say?

This is a war for our very survival as a free people. You had better prepare for a long and ugly conflict. A lot of us won’t survive; but it is better to die free than to live in chains.


2 posted on 01/06/2013 10:27:48 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: marktwain

First, if you go state by state...more than half just won’t agree with any significant change in gun laws. Mandating smaller ammo clips might pass through most voters, but that’s just all that would be accepted.

Second, once the media has kinda burned out on the topic of discussing the gun control stuff and people are turning their news off or just laughing over commentary....the whole thing starts to dissolve away.

Third, elections are just twenty-two months away, and with twenty democratic US Senators in the running...most don’t want a fuss over this topic, especially if they are from a southern state.

Finally, there are ten thousand fed and state laws and regulations on the books currently. The mere suggest that another page will help solve the mess...makes it all just a comedy of sorts. We have laws against murder, and we aren’t seeing much of a plus-up on that situation.


3 posted on 01/06/2013 10:27:57 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: marktwain
what are the ‘electoral consequences’ of our legislators actions?
Haven't they learned there basically aren't any for most of them and that is why they continue to ignore the citizens at will.
this guy is talking about nonsense when rebellion is called for
4 posted on 01/06/2013 10:32:21 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: pepsionice
Mandating smaller ammo clips might pass through most voters, but that’s just all that would be accepted.

Number 1, they are magazines. number 2, 'that's just all' is another step down the road to disarmanent

5 posted on 01/06/2013 10:35:40 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: NTHockey

I hear you. It is better to die on one’s feet than to live on one’s knees.


6 posted on 01/06/2013 10:39:27 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: marktwain

If your Congress-Critter is already among the more conservative, pro-2A types, focus on your Senator.

The only problem there is they are even more impervious to non-finacial influence.
They are wed to their ideology, and only care if you support them.
Not if you don’t.


7 posted on 01/06/2013 10:42:05 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: marktwain; JRandomFreeper

“We must act calmly and rationally.”

I am acting calmly and rationally. I just found and ordered a 25 shell magazine for my Ruger 10/22 rifle. That plus hollow points for that weapon is acting calmly and rationally.


8 posted on 01/06/2013 10:44:26 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: marktwain
Start wearing one of these. Yellow lids from oleo tubs are a good start, or just use your color printer, and pin it on. Get in their faces with this concept.


9 posted on 01/06/2013 10:50:13 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

As much as the European Jews may have benefitted from gun ownership, I don’t think any remaining survivors of the Holocaust (not many still alive given the passage of almost 70 years) would appreciated the Star of David as choice for this symbol. The Nazis used different markings, usually colored triangles, for other enemies of their state, for gypsies, for communists, for homosexuals, etc. Maybe something based on that concept, this one is hypersensitive and would not be appreciated, probably for some right, and wrong reasons.


10 posted on 01/06/2013 11:25:37 AM PST by john drake
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To: paul51

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11 posted on 01/06/2013 11:37:34 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: marktwain

The author is not correct, when he writes: “The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or self-defense.”

We understand that he’s trying to say, that the 2nd Amendment is *not exclusively about* hunting and self-defense, but he is not careful.

Carefully ...

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Various wordings of the Second Amendment were tried during its development. The end result *purposefully* leaves out any enumeration of reasons why an individual has the right to keep and bear Arms. Any reason *why* an individual may or may not keep and bear Arms, was left to the states and the people thereof, to settle among themselves.

The only enumeration in the Second Amendment focuses on what to do about a group of men under Arms - what is to happen when individuals who bear military grade Arms are in a group, and they *are* capable of exercising martial power. What *then,* was to become of that power?

The answer was, that both the states and the federal government would rely upon *the group* being formally mustered, well-regulated, well trained to Arms, well discplined, and answerable to civilian authority.

Both the states and the federal government sought unity of function and preparedness of the militia of each state. The state militiae should be “well trained to Arms” and be capable of, and mindful of, lawfully exercising martial power and respecting lawful civilian authority.

In the old days up to around WW-I times and for a while thereafter, there was a tradition of local militia drilling on the common, the town green, or the county fairgrounds. It gave people an opportunity to remain somewhat familiar with military duty; it helped to keep them from becoming too rusty. It demonstrated the proper practices and discipline *for all to see.*

It is a shame that most communities and counties and states got out of that practice.

All the uses of weapons, firearm or not, for non-military purposes, were left to be decided by the states and their people.

Again, there would be no condition within the Second Amendment, by which you do, or do not, have the right to keep and bear Arms; because, the Founding Fathers correctly anticipated that any such enumerated condition might be used as grounds for an individual to either be forced to bear Arms or be stripped of their Arms.

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The *only* say in the matter, that the federal government has, is in the agreement of the state and the federal government, specifically regarding *What will be “military grade” weapons.*

The reason, there, and there only, that the federal government has a say re the agreement, is because of the need of both the state and the federal government, that we maintain some common Arms for the common defense.

Having established in agreement, what are military grade Arms, then the state may use its authority to consider and establish regulations about such agreed-upon military grade Arms - while the federal government has no Constitutional authority to regulate those Arms within the states, though a state *could* adopt a federally-proposed war department regulation ... but still, the federal government cannot Constitutionally impose weapons regulations within a state.

All other Arms that the people keep and bear, are a matter for the people and their respective states to consider and regulate if the people choose to within the common law of their state -— this is a continuance of the same common law practices and individual rights to keep and bear Arms from before, during, and after all of the American Revolution, founding of our country, and establishment of our national government via our Constitution and its ratified Amendments.

The real issue that the left is trying to take over, is its desire to usurp the common law.

The common law is no business of the federal government to be in; but the leftists keep trying to displace the common law with a radical, nationalizing-socialist, communo-organizers’ legal system, generated from the left’s own liberal-media-vapors and other thoughtless pop-cultural demands for *both* police state security and “professional student security” at university among students who do not know why they are free individuals and really could care less as long as they are taken care of by government - something that popular leftist professors’ in loco dictatorships, relish.

OK, having cleared that up, I will try to follow the steps suggested by Lee DeCovnick, about visiting my Representatives’ (state and U.S.) and Senators (state and U.S.).


12 posted on 01/06/2013 11:44:08 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: NTHockey

Divide the country into a Blue Country and a Red Country.

Let the dems have half - and we’ll take half. Dems can have all the gun control they want. We won’t be here to stand in their way.

Dems can also offer every female free birth control and abortions until 5 minutes after the child is born (kid might be ugly)

Dems can unionized every job - and start minimum wage at a hundred dollars and hour. Union bosses can charge any dues they want. No dues, no job.

Marriage can be between any groups - people, animals, threesomes, fiftysomes... whatever.

Traditional Americans won’t live in the dem country to stop them. Dems can finally get it all their way. They can open their borders to every third world ‘immigrant’ in the world. We won’t rain on their parade.

Every area can be ‘gun free’ - well, except for the criminals..


13 posted on 01/06/2013 11:55:58 AM PST by GOPJ (Our Friends don’t trust us.. Our Enemies don’t fear us .. - Freeper Tilted Irish Kilt)
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To: Marcella

I found one of the Ruger BX-25s in a shop nearby - made specifically for the 10/22; was so impressed with it I got a few more.


14 posted on 01/06/2013 12:05:29 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: marktwain

I totally disagree at this being a good idea. It sounds like bribery and I do not condone that at all, and there is absolutely no way I am going to give a nickel to Bill Nelson no matter how he votes on this issue.


15 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:08 PM PST by Ferndina
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To: marktwain

I totally disagree at this being a good idea. It sounds like bribery and I do not condone that at all, and there is absolutely no way I am going to give a nickel to Bill Nelson no matter how he votes on this issue.


16 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:25 PM PST by Ferndina
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To: marktwain

I totally disagree at this being a good idea. It sounds like bribery and I do not condone that at all, and there is absolutely no way I am going to give a nickel to Bill Nelson no matter how he votes on this issue.


17 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:25 PM PST by Ferndina
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To: marktwain

I totally disagree at this being a good idea. It sounds like bribery and I do not condone that at all, and there is absolutely no way I am going to give a nickel to Bill Nelson no matter how he votes on this issue.


18 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:25 PM PST by Ferndina
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To: marktwain

I totally disagree at this being a good idea. It sounds like bribery and I do not condone that at all, and there is absolutely no way I am going to give a nickel to Bill Nelson no matter how he votes on this issue.


19 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:25 PM PST by Ferndina
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To: marktwain

I totally disagree at this being a good idea. It sounds like bribery and I do not condone that at all, and there is absolutely no way I am going to give a nickel to Bill Nelson no matter how he votes on this issue.


20 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:25 PM PST by Ferndina
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To: marktwain

Something is going to happen somewhere, most likely there will be another mass shooting, probably in Illinois, might even be a connect to Libor again.
And then Illinois will start road blocks, will do block by block searches, will offer insane rewards for information leading to the seizure of all said weapons. All phones will be monitored, all purchases check in by Swat teams.

Obama will do a trial run with just one state, if it enrages the whole nation it will be a success.

So any way about it as long as their is the Islamic infiltration in our nations capitol they will continue to plan on how to get our neighbors to decapitate each other.

Islam has no army per se, no they are going to make us fight each other.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 12:22:08 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: pepsionice
Finally, there are ten thousand fed and state laws and regulations on the books currently. The mere suggest that another page will help solve the mess...makes it all just a comedy of sorts. We have laws against murder, and we aren’t seeing much of a plus-up on that situation.

Last count puts it a lot closer to 20,000 laws and regulations. That's enough to make everyone a criminal, thank God that most are not enforced (not even remembered!).

Regards,
GtG

22 posted on 01/06/2013 12:30:43 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: marktwain

The author’s advice shows the extent of vanity in only some of the government corruption.


23 posted on 01/06/2013 12:32:36 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Ferndina

I don’t think you really read the article. It says to write a check to the NRA or JPFO while in front of the aide, then ask them to mail it for you. And promise that the second check in the same amount will be written to the congresscriminal’s next opponent.


24 posted on 01/06/2013 12:44:44 PM PST by DPMD
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To: Ferndina
-- I totally disagree at this being a good idea. It sounds like bribery and I do not condone that at all ... --

Zero money is given or promised to your representative. You send money to the NRA, JFPO, GOA, and state that you will donate to your representative's political opponent if your representative votes in favor of any federal restriction on firearms.

It's sort of like mailing them a handwritten letter that you will be watching, only it has a greater effect, because you take the time to be there, and you put your money where your mouth is.

25 posted on 01/06/2013 12:49:41 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: john drake; Oatka

I think it’s the perfect symbol, and yes, it should drive up those horrible passions from the holocaust, because this is exactly where we are in American history today. We have been swindled by Progressives that would murder every single person that voted against Obama and the Democrats that exists if they could get away with it, and don’t ever think anything different, because if you do, you are a fool. It is coming, just as sure as the the night.


26 posted on 01/06/2013 12:52:58 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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To: marktwain
So, what actions can a responsible gun owner take to stop this legislative insanity?

Refuse to follow the "new" law, especially when it infringes on a right.

Today gun owners must not wave weapons in the air and jabber mindlessly at those who wish to disarm us.

Horsehockey. Wave weapons and threaten. It takes that and more since some of those questionable lawmakers won't listen until they are hit over the head.

27 posted on 01/06/2013 1:22:22 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Marcella

I’m doing my part to be rational. I bought 2 sig compacts this morning. There is hardly anything left at gun stores. Other people I guess are being rational too.


28 posted on 01/06/2013 1:22:22 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Oatka

Bravo!


29 posted on 01/06/2013 1:31:18 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: Ferndina
Wow! Six hiccups. Are you okay after that?
30 posted on 01/06/2013 1:37:58 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor; JRandomFreeper

“I found one of the Ruger BX-25s in a shop nearby - made specifically for the 10/22; was so impressed with it I got a few more.”

Excellent. They are scarce and could be outlawed before this month is over. This is all madness. The anti-gun guys talking on TV don’t even know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. The want every semi-automatic weapon taken up. Say, what? There would go almost every gun in the country.

I have one that isn’t semi-automatic. It’s an Army Springfield Long Rifle made in 1873 and I have the serial number. It takes powder and ball so it is not semi-automatic as you shoot one time, then go through the process to prepare another ball to be shot. I guess Hussein will leave that one alone.


31 posted on 01/06/2013 2:07:49 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: lookout88
“I’m doing my part to be rational. I bought 2 sig compacts this morning.”

Good for you. It is rational, when you see your liberty threatened, to do something about it. It is irrational not to.

32 posted on 01/06/2013 2:13:40 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: NTHockey

Do you think it’s working? Not if you look at the number of people buying weapons as fast as they can. We know why.
I keep a very close eye on a certain forum because I know what they’re like & what they’re capable of. I have to hand it to their peers who are gun owners- & there are *many*, for fighting back, hard, & I believe they won’t back down. They know what’s going on. They know, too, *not only* what their “friends” are like & what they’re capable of. They know that their “friends” will turn on them in a heartbeat if they don’t go along. They Can’t Trust One Another.
Knowing that (about your alleged “friends), what would *you* do when push came to shove?

They are failing & they know it. OWS, which was a push by the communists, fell flat on it’s face. A joke. A laughing stock. Turn out for this election was *terrible*. 0bama didn’t win America’s votes by 51%. He didn’t even win 51% of the people who voted. They cheated like crazy. We know that, but most of all *they* know it. They saw it coming waaay before November. Except for a sprinkle of literally incoherently babbling-crazy astroturf (did Y’All see the loon on this article?), comment sections & forums everywhere are filled with disgust for this administration.
They are desperate & dangerous. Bill Ayers & his treasonous cronies are especially desperate because this is their last chance before they die from old age. It’s not going to end well, but their odds of prevailing are almost non existent. (The good news is that America will then be rid of them, once & for all)
Just remember that. They can puff & preen & wallow in their contrivances & delusions, but a lot more people than us know the truth. When they can’t “wait for him to be voted out of office” & their childrens’ lives are at stake, that’s a different story.

I don’t think we need to be throwing money around. It’s a better investment somewhere else. A blackmailer never gets “enough”. (& that’s what Congress has become: extortionists. Sold to the highest bidder). We need to show up, though- calmly, quietly, look them in the eye, & remind them to never gamble more than they are willing to lose. We’re not doing that & that might be urgent.
It’s time to choose.


33 posted on 01/06/2013 2:57:57 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: marktwain
This is an excellent idea except if you're broke like me. Therefore, I've turned to letter writing and will continue to write my State Senators and Congresswoman until they get the message: Here's my first letter:

The Honorable Kelly Ayotte
The Honorable Jeanne Shaheen
The Honorable Ann Kuster

Washington, DC.

Subject: Pending Federal Gun Control Legislation

The Second Amendment of the US Constitution clearly establishes the limits of the Government concerning gun control. It was established by our founding fathers to give “We the People” an equal footing with the Government should our Government ever become tyrannical. We are at, or very near that point today.

I, as an American citizen, will not be disarmed! I will not give up my guns to the Government. I will not surrender my Rights to an out of control, despotic government, whose agenda is the destruction of this great nation as we once knew it.

The killings at Sandy Hook by a lunatic were tragic, but it pales in comparison to the murder of more than 3000 children per day to government sanctioned abortion. It pales in comparison to the number of innocent people that were killed in Mexico due to Operation Fast & Furious. It pales in comparison to Waco and Ruby Ridge. Our Government is complicit to murder in the first degree, willful and mindful of the very facts.

I urge you to consider carefully your actions in the forthcoming deliberations on the new Assault Weapons Ban. Magazines, clips, flash suppressors, thumbhole grips, folding stocks, night vision sites, lasers and lights do not make a firearm dangerous. A firearm is no more dangerous than a screwdriver. In the hands of a deranged human being, they are both deadly weapons.

Remember these four words as you cast your votes, “Shall Not Be Infringed”.

Sincerely, Keith P. Momberger

34 posted on 01/06/2013 5:06:33 PM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: GOPJ

I am on the same page.


35 posted on 01/06/2013 5:12:36 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: GOPJ
It's Time to Part Company
36 posted on 01/06/2013 5:29:27 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: KGeorge

The biggest problem is that the Communists have no fear that anything will be done to them. Only when that fear becomes palpable will they back down.

Lawsuits and primaries and money won’t have the desired effect. Knowing that danger is right around the corner will.


37 posted on 01/06/2013 5:33:43 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey

“Only when that fear becomes palpable will they back down.”

Agree with you there, especially, but also otherwise. I don’t think money would work even if our resources were pooled (which isn’t to say that people should not donate to the NRA or GOA/ both where they can). I just think that even then, we’d be no match for a Soros type driver.


38 posted on 01/06/2013 6:07:49 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Marcella

God Bless Texas. My kid is at Dyess in Abilene. I love visiting him. I would love to move there, and make a stand if it comes to that.


39 posted on 01/06/2013 6:45:26 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Oatka; All

OBAMA MACHT FREI


40 posted on 01/06/2013 6:52:29 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: B.O. Plenty

LOL - my idea is the same as Walter E. Williams’ but I’m 13 years late? Great, just great. Oh well, better late than never...


41 posted on 01/07/2013 8:15:12 AM PST by GOPJ (Our Friends don’t trust us.. Our Enemies don’t fear us .. - Freeper Tilted Irish Kilt)
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To: john drake
As much as the European Jews may have benefitted from gun ownership, I don’t think any remaining survivors of the Holocaust [snip] would appreciated the Star of David as choice for this symbol.

I understand the sensitivity, having worked with many and more than a few with numbers still on their arms. That being said, I chose that as a direct slap in the face of the anti-gunners, many Jewish, as a reminder of what happens when the State starts demonizing a segment of their law-abiding population.

No one ever came up to me complaining - they just averted their eyes.

42 posted on 01/07/2013 8:44:09 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: john drake

Sorry, forgot to post a link to the full story:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2975195/posts?page=15#15


43 posted on 01/07/2013 8:48:43 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


44 posted on 01/07/2013 9:01:50 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


45 posted on 01/07/2013 9:02:43 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Marcella

They are always yammering about assault rifles. I don’t think they know precisely what the term means. They appear to be confusing semi-automatics with machine guns.


46 posted on 01/07/2013 9:08:38 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Dogbert41

I’m not sure that this bunch is actually competent enough to kill us all. After all, this is the same government whose treasury department is considering minting a trillion-dollar platinum coin to get around the debt limit.

Whatever they ultimately do will probably have us facepalming or rolling on the floor in stitches, not dying en masse.


47 posted on 01/07/2013 9:12:12 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: bt_dooftlook

OBAMA EATS DACHSHUNDS!


48 posted on 01/07/2013 9:20:00 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“They are always yammering about assault rifles. I don’t think they know precisely what the term means. They appear to be confusing semi-automatics with machine guns.”

Yes, that is what I was saying - they don't know how guns work. Plus, if the weapon “looks” dangerous, they call it an assault weapon no matter what the firing mechanism is inside the gun.

49 posted on 01/07/2013 9:47:11 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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Very well done. Do you mind if I copy it (sans the personal info)?


50 posted on 01/07/2013 10:22:06 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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