Posted on 01/06/2013 2:32:30 PM PST by blam
The White House Is Planning A Major Push On Guns, And One Democratic Senator Is Already Calling It 'Extreme'
Brett LoGiurato
Jan. 6, 2013, 1:40 PM
The White House's task force led by Vice President Joe Biden is considering expansive proposals to tackle the nation's gun violence, something that is already drawing early condemnation from even Democratic lawmakers.
The Washington Post reported Sunday that the group headed by Biden is preparing to go far beyond a simple reinstatement of the expired assault weapons ban:
A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.
But on Sunday, newly sworn-in Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, a Democrat from North Dakota, called the reported proposals "way in the extreme" and cautioned that they would not pass if brought together in a comprehensive bill.
"Well, I think you need to put everything on the table," Heitkamp said on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."
"But what I hear from the administration — and if The Washington Post is to be believed — that's way, way in extreme of what I think is necessary or even should be talked about. And it's not going to pass."
It's an especially strong rebuke from the Democrat Heitkamp, who comes from a red-leaning state and earned an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association. The Post reported that the White House plans to bypass trying to earn support for the measure from the NRA, instead turning to businesses like Wal-Mart for support.
On "This Week," Heitkamp said that there should be
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This is going to end badly for the gun grabbers.
If they overreach, they won’t even have the votes in the senate
Obamugabe will do this, while simultaneously committing some other anti-Constitutional move. We will focus on his hatred for the 2nd Amendment and only find out later the other activity he did that destroyed liberty.
He is calling attention, on purpose, to this move so that we won’t see something else coming.
Anybody who doesn't see that coming is blind.
Or at least thats his plan.
""A sixth claim is that the data in the long-gun registry are too valuable to be destroyed. Unfortunately, the many errors and omissions in the registry vitiate its utility. The RCMP testified to the auditor-general that they could not rely on it in court. Recent information shows that many errors remain despite the best efforts of the Canadian Firearms Program.
Immense problems similarly have been reported concerning the accuracy of the South African firearms registry and the now-abandoned New Zealand long-gun registry.
The RCMP has reported error rates between 43% and 90% in firearms applications and registry information. " "
Then there is the non-compliance of the law abiders not to speak of the gang-bangers.
This has never been intended to pass, matter of fact it has be designed to fail.....all to set up conservatives as extreme and so the kenyan can issue multiple executive orders that will eventually declare all guns are illegal......and thus can be confiscated.
They have alredy lost before they even start because the Supreme Court has already ruled that the federal government has no authority to institute a "gun free zone" around schools.
Obama wants to lose in the House. This is only the start with immigration amnesty, more tax hikes, etc. to paint the House as against the will of the people and run for a democrat House 2014 where he can pass his radical agenda.
Maybe Heidi needs to ask herself that.
But they still claim them........
Dictator POS. One person cannot do this to a “free” country. Or whats left of our freedom.
I lean more towards “Lock and load, here they come” - takes me back to earlier days. Different enemy though. Who would have thought my greatest enemy would be my own government?
I don’t think the electorate will ever get within a hundred miles of speakerette of the house nancy pelosi. At least not with that weazen old man leading the senate and the messiah still in the white house
I saw a graphic that read something like, ‘I saw a movie one time when only the government had guns: Shindler’s List.’
“Who would have thought my greatest enemy would be my own government?”
Those among the Founders who wanted “The right of the people to keep and bear arms” in the Bill of Rights.
...would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors... newly sworn-in Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, a Democrat from North Dakota, called the reported proposals "way in the extreme" and cautioned that they would not pass if brought together in a comprehensive bill.IOW, no committee assignments for her.
It won’t be just one person. Obama will be backed by tens of millions of his supporters and the world as a whole.
The scheme is to bring “overwheming” force in the form of business, Walmart, corporations, media and Lefty American outcry against us, to practice indoctrination and propaganda techniques for other items on their communist agenda, coming down the road.
Fundamental change is certainly rolling up our culture, politics, media, thanks to PUBLIC EDUCATION.
Tens of millions? So, I guess they will be heavily outnumbered.
Thomas Jefferson, et. al.
I’d be a lot more worried about this if Biden were’t in charge.
He strikes me as being too dumb to find his butt with both hands and the lights on......
“A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said. “
OK...what “key law enforcement leaders”? Holder?
And, just how do you intend to establish and populate a “national database” of firearms?
And, of course stricter penalties for carrying firearms near schools would have avoided the tragedy in CT...
Good to see a dhimmicrap that recognizes this for the tripe that it is. But, we all need to raise our voices, loud and long. Burn up the phone lines to your elected representatives at ALL LEVELS. Tell them to leave the Second Amendment alone, and get the hell out of our gun safes.
One thing to keep in mind, this will only be one of many rounds on this. They may try for a home run on this - for gun control, registration etc - then “settle” for a single or a double. No way, no compromise on our rights, none. We don’t give an inch. We don’t “have to give them something.” So be vigilant, they don’t really expect this to fly, they’re really after anything they can get in a so-called “compromise.”
Here you are on another firearm thread, fretting about conservatives not kneeling to the almighty government.
Your grasp of logistics leaves much to be desired.
Put on your big girl panties, and get conservative, or get gone.
/johnny
“Why the long-gun registry doesn’t work — and never did”
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/12/11/gary-mauser-why-the-long-gun-registry-doesnt-work-and-never-did/
The media reports all this as “the bill WILL ban ...this and that” where it should honetly, at most, say “the bill would”.
They want to stampede us into hysteria when they know it takes both houses of Congress plus President’s auto-pen, then Courts take a whack at it. The same USSCT majority which recently upheld individual right to bear arms should hold.
Meanwhile Dingy Harry has said that no gun bills will come up in Senate. Sure he could change his mind. But he has a long record of being NRA’s “bitch”. They support and endorse him, we all get madder than a wet het, but he stays bought. Nevada is still a pro-gun state.
True, we cannot count on Boehner for anyting, but I think the NRA has withstood the media blitz over the Sandyhook crisis opportunity for the gun grabbers.
Gabby Giffords and Jim Brady can rail all they want but neither was shot with an assault rifle. Brady was hit with a .22!
Unless I missed something, Mister Reid, who has always seemed like a true weasel's weasel to moi, seems most reluctant to call Mister Obama's push on guns as "extreme" or anything at all negative, n'est ce pas?
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P4L
“It won’t be just one person. Obama will be backed by tens of millions of his supporters and the world as a whole.”
Good. Then we’ll have them where we want them. Enemies in all directions. That eliminates the concern for the dangers of receiving ‘friendly fire’ from any quarter.
His supporters are mostly metrosexual wussies that have never served in the military, hunted, or worked in any manly profession. They can stamp their feet and throw a hissy fit, but they can’t beat us by force.
Obama’s supporters cannot hope to prevail in a dirty war.
The “occupy” movement, where they posted those photos of messages, held in front of their sad little faces, is as rough as they’ve ever had it.
As for the rest of the world, i double dog dare him to bring foreign troops here to enforce so much as a traffic ticket. NO, i triple dog dare him!
Foreign soldiers doing -any- action against Americans can be shot on sight. I cannot find anything, anywhere, that states the American people must ever tolerate foreign troops arrayed against us, -here-.
Unarmed disaster relief, like handing out water, driving a bulldozer, or flying a rescue helicopter, fine. Training on a base as our friendly guests, like the Luftwaffe flying jets in the desert southwest, perfectly fine.
But conducting law enforcement, COIN, or gun grabbing raids (even in a support role) makes them an instant legitimate target.
In September, 1994, Congress passed an assault-weapons ban. Less than two months later, an historic election took place which returned control of Congress to the Republicans after decades of wandering in the wilderness.
A chief sponsor of the 1994 ban was Senator Dianne Feinstein, who is now leading the effort to pass another similar ban this year.
The most intensely active voter-base organization of the Republican party is the NRA, and crazy Dianne wants to take them on again?!
The Republicans maintained control of Congress until two years after the NRA’s goal was achieved — expiration of the 1994 assault-weapons ban without renewal. Having nothing to fight for, the NRA was not active in the 2006 elections, when the Democrats regained Congress. But now that Dianne Feinstein wants to bring them back into the fray, what can Republicans do but encourage her? Please, Senator, go ahead. Make our day.
That's why God created Executive Orders.
It's not so much what you don't know that will get you in trouble. It's what you know that ain't so.
No kidding, the hunting and shooting argument is loosing. It’s about defending us from tyrannical government. Right now we need the 2nd amendment more than anything. The lefties know it. Gun laws will never pass the house.
https://twitter.com/ChristiChat/status/287926826217652225/photo/1
That's golden! I am going to use that one!
Just wonder which GOP will side with Obama on this new Gun Control Facism......you know there will be some. Look at all the liberal PhonyCons starting to support Illegal Alien after the election
Razamataz to divert attention away from the spending crisis.
Also, the real reason to nominate Hagel, to create a diversion from the spending crisis
Great post, Kris.
Is she related to Shirley Temple?
Mark
Oh no, no, no, no, no, only Republicans be extreme.
Get ready to look behind the curtain, the a##clown magician is going to throw out the smoke screen aka “gun ban legislation” while he pushes, passes or executive orders something unconstitutional.
Did you think Obama would get Obamacare passed? He did.
Did you think Obama would get Obamacare past the Supreme Court? He did.
Did you think Obama would get re-elected with the sorry state of the economy? He did.
It makes absolutely no difference what has happened historically. It makes absolutely no difference what used to be common knowledge. It makes absolutely no difference what used to be impossible.
With Obama, all bets are off.
We dismiss his efforts and underestimate him at our peril.
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