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Travis County Texas To Discuss Banning Gun Shows
Heard on KLBJ ^ | 1/7/2013 | KLBJ Austin

Posted on 01/07/2013 5:04:47 AM PST by grobdriver

Driving in to work today I heard the KLBJ 590 boys discussing the latest in the Left's attack on the Second Amendment.
From their web site:
Officials to discuss banning gun shows from city and county owned facilities
Newsroom
1/7/2013

Officials with Travis county and the city of Austin will discuss whether or not they want to ban weapons shows from city and county owned facilities. Travis county resident Ed Scruggs tells commissioners he thinks he's not against gun shows, but thinks they should not happen in publicly owned facilities following the tragic school shooting in Connecticut, "We have the power to do something about this issue. We can't do much, but by stopping it's just a small pebble in the pond, but it's a start."

Travis county commissioners are set to discuss the issue at 11:00 tomorrow morning.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; bluezones; guncontrol; guns; gunshows; secondamendment; traviscounty; tx2013
I wrote my commissioner the following:

Commissioner Davis,

I heard the news today on KLBJ that the Travis county commissioners are considering stopping gun shows in Travis county public facilities.

I write to urge you to stand against this idea as a discriminatory action against people who view firearms the same as others view crafts, quilting, or the equestrian sport.

The vast majority of gun show dealers are FFL licensed individuals who either do their business wholely at gun shows, or use gun shows to extend their brick and mortar business, and as such their sales are required by law to use the NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System) during a transaction.
Very few people will spend $100 or more for a table at a gun show to sell their $800 firearm.

By implementing such a ban you would only deprive legal dealers of exposure to their commodity, and legal buyers their opportunity to see and shop in a condensed environment (kind of like an outlet mall).
You would also deprive Travis county of quite a large sum of sale tax dollars.

And in the end, you would accomplish nothing towards gun crime since criminals who cannot pass a NICS check either steal their weapons or buy them on the street.

What you contemplate is wrong-headed and possibly illegal (discriminatory).

Now get out there and sic 'em!

1 posted on 01/07/2013 5:05:01 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: grobdriver

Window dressing !

Mental health is the issue, not gun shows.


2 posted on 01/07/2013 5:07:26 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: grobdriver

So he seeks to deprive a sizable percentage of the population from using public facilities they help pay for.


3 posted on 01/07/2013 5:07:50 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; grobdriver
Mental health is the issue, not gun shows.

Mental health is especially an issue it the People's Republic of Austin!

4 posted on 01/07/2013 5:11:38 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: grobdriver

That’s fine. Williamson County will take the gun show revenue. Travis county and Austin can concentrate on taxing patchouli and tie dye t-shirts.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 5:11:56 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The real issue is that the government elite want to control us, and we have millions of entitlement freaks, who don’t want to work and want to do lots of crack, and need cold hard money. Mental Health is also window dressing.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 5:18:13 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yes, the “Keep Austin Weird” t-shirts are not just BS.


7 posted on 01/07/2013 5:18:51 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: grobdriver
Austin - Hanoi in the Hill Country.

The San Francisco of Texas.

8 posted on 01/07/2013 5:19:14 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: grobdriver

And who is Ed Scruggs and why is he important? Why not a quote from a citizen on the other side of the issue, too?


9 posted on 01/07/2013 5:22:46 AM PST by Truth29
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To: grobdriver

Travis county resident Ed Scruggs tells commissioners he thinks he’s not against gun shows,

BS. He is against gun shows.


10 posted on 01/07/2013 5:23:39 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: grobdriver

What do gun shows have to do with what happened in Connecticut?
An evil sick person killed other human beings. In a school. Not at a gun show. Not because of a gun show.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 5:24:02 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: TADSLOS

And don’t forget the purple hair.


12 posted on 01/07/2013 5:28:50 AM PST by Terry Mross ( I post so people who hate me will know what I think. And they can't seem to stop reading. LOL)
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To: grobdriver
Surrounding counties should send big ol' Thank You cards to the Austin fascisti !
13 posted on 01/07/2013 5:32:47 AM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: grobdriver

A friend of mine sells real estate in Austin.

He said thee is a huge influx of people from California and New York moving into Austin every week. IIRC it’s something around 500/week.

Anyone who thought Austin was a pack of left wing freak shows before haven’t seen anything yet.


14 posted on 01/07/2013 5:32:57 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Paleo Conservative

Bingo !


15 posted on 01/07/2013 5:47:30 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: grobdriver

“...he thinks he’s not against gun shows...”

He thinks; therefore, he is a shitzleftist against 2nd Amendment and guns. Banned from public facilities, then a total ban, more progressive incrementalism. This has got to be stopped cold.

“From my cold, dead hands...”—Charlton Heston


16 posted on 01/07/2013 5:54:47 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: grobdriver

They might want to look at what happened when Houston. Tried the same thing a few years back. Bottom line: Courts all said no, Houston had to pay out millions to gun show organizers, state was not amused.

Texas has a state supremacy and exclusivity clause in the state constitution that says that only the state legislature may regulate anything having to do with arms. The locals cannot do squat about it.


17 posted on 01/07/2013 5:57:42 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: grobdriver

Liberals love empty gestures.
Why don’t they ban selling guns to criminals?


18 posted on 01/07/2013 6:02:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: grobdriver

This is a coordinated, liberal effort, folks!

The same effort is being attempted in Pennsylvania. A caller tried to corner our governor on a talk radio show with the same proposal (ban gun shows at state-owned facilites).

The left is working its magic behind the scenes.

I expect this will be on of President Obama’s list of unilateral proposals....banning gun shows at any facility that received federal funds.


19 posted on 01/07/2013 6:05:15 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: grobdriver

“Travis County Texas To Discuss Banning Gun Shows”

Huh, never heard of a shooting spree at a gun show, or gun shop for that matter..........Weird.


20 posted on 01/07/2013 6:06:01 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Spktyr
Thank you for this info.
Warrants a follow-up email to Commissioner Davis.
21 posted on 01/07/2013 6:07:27 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: AppyPappy

Travis County bows to KneeJERK reactions from communist liberals is more like it. The sissies whine, complain and oversensationalize everything on the Internet because they are part of the “look at me, won’t somebody please look at me because I’m pathetic generation.


22 posted on 01/07/2013 6:08:02 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: grobdriver

They need to relook at the TEXAS DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE and see why they broke away from Mexico.

From the TEXAS Declaration of Independence from Mexico..

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/texdec.asp

“It has demanded us to deliver up our arms, which are essential to our defence, the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”

THE RIGHTFUL PROPERTY OF FREEMEN! Even Texas understood it!


23 posted on 01/07/2013 6:11:16 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: V_TWIN

“Huh, never heard of a shooting spree at a gun show, or gun shop for that matter..........Weird.”

Actually some gang bangers tried robbing a gun shop in Yakima, WA years back. Turns out the 4 off duty cops there at the time and the gun shop owner had better aim. Still some bullet holes in the concrete support beams a decade later.

San Antonio already has 2 gun shows a month. If Austin bans them it’ll just mean we get to have one every weekend.


24 posted on 01/07/2013 6:18:27 AM PST by Mac n Jac (www.vetsfightingms.org)
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To: TADSLOS

Williamson County Bump!

Austin sucks.


25 posted on 01/07/2013 6:20:49 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: grobdriver

The funny thing was that Houston fought it in state courts, then when they got shut down there, they moved it to Federal court. Specifically, the Fifth Circuit - who issued one of the shortest ‘major case’ decisions I have ever seen. This was the last word on it, and it came from the 5th: ftp://opinions.ca5.uscourts.gov/pub/98/98-20497.CV0.wpd.pdf

Best of all, when Houston then went begging the next legislature for financial aid to plug the resulting gaping hole in their budget, they were singularly unsuccessful. Who knew that the legislature is not amused when a city tries to usurp powers reserved to the legislature and only the legislature by the Texas Constitution? (Everyone BUT the idiots in Houston city government, apparently.)

So, yes, Austin, please, do ban gun shows. There’s precedent now - all you will accomplish is a huge hole in the city budget, you’ll have to reinstate the gun shows and you’ll lose a ton of revenue besides. Less money to spend on hippie liberal crap. :P


26 posted on 01/07/2013 6:22:41 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I live in Williamson County and have to make the dreaded trek every day to Travis County for work. The only thing that prevents central Texas from being the perfect place to live is Travis County, the Austin City Council, and the nut jobs that seem to be running here for jobs and bringing their f’ed up liberal belief system with them. My office is full of people from California, the NE, and even one liberal canuck. It sit in amazement and bite my tongue listening the the absolutely uninformed and stupid conversations I overhear.

I call “the city of Austin” the city of Austism”. They spend money on the dumbest things. Worse than uncle Sam believe it or not.


27 posted on 01/07/2013 6:29:40 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: grobdriver; basil; txhurl
I've been listening to KLBJ too. Ed is too d*** stupid to understand what SGT Sam is saying. He, Don Pryor and Jeff Ward need to admit they are liberal democrats.

BTW, there was ONE person who went to the silly council meeting and complained. Not a group, but one individual.

28 posted on 01/07/2013 6:34:43 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I try to limit my travel and spending range to Round Rock usually go no farther south on 35 than the 45 interchange.. I’ll gladly spend the 130 toll money to bypass Austin when going south to shop at Cabelas. Austin is a frikkin’ cesspool and a traffic nightmare to boot.


29 posted on 01/07/2013 7:15:34 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: grobdriver

William Barret Travis must be spinning in his grave, poor awld sod.


30 posted on 01/07/2013 7:28:23 AM PST by MollyGoose
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To: grobdriver

Paging Texas. Clean-up in Travis County.


31 posted on 01/07/2013 12:57:16 PM PST by S.O.S121.500
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To: grobdriver

Texans to discuss banning Travis County.


32 posted on 01/07/2013 12:59:27 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: Arrowhead1952

bttt


33 posted on 01/07/2013 2:19:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Spktyr
The locals cannot do squat about it.

But leftists will try to "do squat" on the Constitution any time they have an opportunity.

34 posted on 01/07/2013 2:26:53 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

My daughter, grandson and son-in-law lived in Hutto. They were transferred to DC. Son-in-law is a corporate attorney.

Wished they were back in Texas. Have been to visit them in Northern Virginia and I simply do not belong in that mess.

I am blessed though, kids are all conservative. Almost as conservative as I am, but not quite.

I get up each morning and look out my front door here in the middle of the “big nothing” as the folks in Dallas call it, and tell myself that this is Still Texas where I live. hee hee hee

And it is. Some of my ancestors were born in TX during the Republic. More came to TX during reconstruction after the Civil War. Some of those were burned out of Alabama for resisting the occupation. Those echoes can still be heard reverberating here.

Not since Reconstruction has the corruption and open lawlessness been this bad in the Federal Government. Very bad times ahead.

But this is Still Texas where I live and it will remain so.

FUBO!


35 posted on 01/08/2013 4:18:42 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Resolute Conservative

And let me remind you that there are POLs here who see this just like we do.

example: AG Gregg Abbott (he is the one with the balls)

We need him for governor the next time.


36 posted on 01/08/2013 4:21:42 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil; Resolute Conservative
And let me remind you that there are POLs here who see this just like we do.

example: AG Gregg Abbott (he is the one with the balls)

We need him for governor the next time.


I saw Gregg Abbott at a fund raiser after the elections in November. I got the impression that he is running for governor in 2014.

37 posted on 01/15/2013 7:25:27 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

If he does, he has my vote.


38 posted on 01/15/2013 7:34:31 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Resolute Conservative

I call “the city of Austin” the city of Austism”.

That’s what I thought the first (and last) time I visited there. All the people, adults and children, had to wear helmets to ride a bicycle. The only time I had seen that many adults and children wearing helmets was in a “state school”.


39 posted on 01/15/2013 7:44:36 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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