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Obama could sidestep Congress on gun control
radioaustralia.net.au ^ | January 7, 2013 | Lisa Millar

Posted on 01/07/2013 7:05:22 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

US president Barack Obama is reportedly considering implementing the most comprehensive gun control measures seen in decades.

US president Barack Obama is reportedly considering implementing the most comprehensive gun control measures seen in decades.

A task force led by vice-president Joe Biden is reportedly considering wide-ranging proposals going well beyond simply reinstating a ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition.

The Washington Post reports that a national data base tracking gun sales, mental health checks, and background checks are all on the table.

And in a move that is set to anger opponents of gun control, the taskforce is reportedly looking at measures that can be implemented by the president's order without the approval of Congress.

The White House is understood to want swift action while the public remains outraged over the deaths of 20 children and six adults in the Newtown school shooting in Connecticut last month.

Some reports suggest Mr Obama will have the proposals on his table within weeks.

Democrat congressman Chris Van Hollen says any approach the Obama administration takes must be comprehensive.

"The argument against gun safety provisions is always because it doesn't solve everything we shouldn't do anything and I don't subscribe to that," he said.

"I believe we need a comprehensive approach, we need to look at all the different elements here and just because a particular effort won't prevent something in one particular incident, doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything that might help in other incidents.

"Right now you can be on the terrorist watch list, you can be prevented from boarding an aeroplane, but you can go down the street and buy a semiautomatic assault weapon."

With the new Congress sworn in just days ago, 10 different bills are already on the table dealing with gun laws separate to Mr Obama's working group.


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1 posted on 01/07/2013 7:05:25 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The White House is understood to want swift action while the public remains outraged...

Never let a crisis go to waste.

2 posted on 01/07/2013 7:07:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the government. LIBERTY: When the government fears the people.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The US Constitution does not apply to King Obama.


3 posted on 01/07/2013 7:11:13 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America !!!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Right now you can be on the terrorist watch list, you can be prevented from boarding an aeroplane, but you can go down the street and buy a semiautomatic assault weapon."

And no gun law will change that, Cocaine has been totally illegal for decades and yet you can still purchase it in any town in America...

4 posted on 01/07/2013 7:12:28 AM PST by apillar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Since he can, it’s likely he will.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 7:13:16 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I didn’t know freakazoid Lanza was on a terrorist not fly list. Same for all those Chicago gangbangers who are constantly killing as many people every couple of weeks unabated as Lanza did.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 7:17:04 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Get your hair clippers, Patriots! The Vichy Republicans asked for it. 2014!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What about the 1.2 million babies being aborted each year in the US?

What about a convicted felon (certain elements are required) to buy a cap and ball musket - still a firearm - still able to kill a person???

What about all the drunk drivers that result in the deaths of 16,000 + or - each year in the US???

I’m outraged that the schools in the US don’t allow trained and cleared personnel that either want to volunteer (parents, retired police officers, etc) show up and be there to counter an active shooter...

I’m outraged that schools don’t allow trained and certified teachers/principals to carry or have access to lock boxes that contain a firearm to suppress and counter an active shooter...

But oh no....let’s just tramp on the 2nd Amendment - use this crisis to take away more freedoms - but let’s open the flood gates on abortion - alcohol abuse - legal marijuana usage that will results in more vehicle deaths and other criminal activity — but not allow FREE US CITIZENS the right to protect and defend their property and families from criminals because the govt. is broke both federal and local - and the police agencies are overworked - under staffed - and unwilling to be proactive to due the stupid lawsuits that liberal minded idiots employ to get out of criminal charges they know very well that they committed...

But no - I have to be legal - upstanding - can’t break the law - so turn over your weapons - forgo the amount of money I spent on it — just so a school shooting won’t happen again — and pay no attention to the thousands of illegals entering the country with who knows what in their backpacks...

I guess I’ll either resist or buy a percussion six shot and roll around like Blondie in a Fist Full of Dollars - (excellent movie by the way - all 3 of them)!!!

Just great....


7 posted on 01/07/2013 7:18:51 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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“”Right now you can be on the terrorist watch list, you can be prevented from boarding an aeroplane, but you can go down the street and buy a semiautomatic assault weapon.” “

gee is too bad the govt doesn’t need to actually convict you of a crime before prohibiting you from traveling.


8 posted on 01/07/2013 7:19:18 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I don’t think he has the balls to executive order this one and if he does cross that line, we’ll just disregard it and undo it when he and his ferry band of democrats suffer epic backlash in 2014 and 2016. Obama has been gun salesman of the year for the past 4 years running. If he EO’s some bull***t, he’ll be Republican recruiter of the year for the next 4 years. Look at all the guns being sold in this country, all to registered voters and not all of them are hard core conservatives-not by a long shot. Americans don’t have his back on this.


9 posted on 01/07/2013 7:19:49 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: apillar
And in a move that is set to anger opponents of gun control, the taskforce is reportedly looking at measures that can be implemented by the president's order without the approval of Congress.

The Supreme Court ruled in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 US 579 (1952) that Executive Order 10340 from President Harry S. Truman placing all steel mills in the country under federal control was invalid because it attempted to make law, rather than clarify or act to further a law put forth by the Congress or the Constitution.

10 posted on 01/07/2013 7:24:44 AM PST by apillar
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I hope the Dems and all their media minions realize that they are up against the most fundamental rights of the American people...
....And "We The People...."
...Are prepared to maintain & defend all of our God-given inalienable rights as American citizens....

That said...

The brash arrogance of the Dem's /libs' mindset...
And the (much more likely) gross political miscalculation on the entire 2nd Amendment catalog of issues may just be ultimate stumbling block for this ungodly un-American cabal...

IOW...
Impeachment for treason may become the most obvious and undeniable option to rid ourselves of these clowns...

Just my humble....

/end = [Monday rant]

11 posted on 01/07/2013 7:26:13 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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Maybe so but he will not be able to bypass Congressional constituents
12 posted on 01/07/2013 7:28:11 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: RC one

Congress does not have to allow executive orders to become law. There is a time period during which Congress can nullify executive orders, they just don’t bother most of the time.
This time their constituents would demand they nullify the order.


13 posted on 01/07/2013 7:36:54 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The murmurs of discontent are building. Who will provide the spark to outright resistance? Who in Congress will step up, stand out and denounce Hussein for the tyrant he is? Who will be our Patrick Henry?
14 posted on 01/07/2013 7:39:11 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ......Best laugh of the day! Thanks!


15 posted on 01/07/2013 7:55:45 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"With the new Congress sworn in just days ago, 10 different bills are already on the table dealing with gun laws separate to Mr Obama's working group."

My guess is some sort of piecemeal response -- with tighter screens for criminal records and mental illness. (I've wondered if much of the libs opposition to firearms is because they can't legally own them because they can't pass mental illness background checks.)

16 posted on 01/07/2013 7:56:46 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Could???

I don't recall Dear Leader ever even declaring CONgrease back in session.

17 posted on 01/07/2013 7:57:44 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A task force led by vice-president Joe Biden is reportedly considering wide-ranging proposals going well beyond simply reinstating a ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition.

I think Joe Biden wrote this sentence.

18 posted on 01/07/2013 8:03:18 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Tailgunner Joe

if so, then watch it get the fast track to the SPOTUS... no way it would pass muster.


19 posted on 01/07/2013 8:06:02 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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Thugs and dictators want law abiding citizens disarmed for obvious reasons.


20 posted on 01/07/2013 8:07:11 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If all trees were money trees, Obama would still spend it faster than they can leaf out.)
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