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BANK OF AMERICA Freezes Gun Manufacturer's Account...
CNSNews.com ^ | January 7, 2013 | Gregory Gwyn-Williams Jr.

Posted on 01/07/2013 1:56:51 PM PST by CNSNews.com

Bank of America has reportedly frozen the account of gun manufacturer American Spirit Arms, according to its owner, Joe Sirochman.

In a Facebook post dated December 29, Sirochman wrote the following:

“My name is Joe Sirochman owner of American Spirit Arms...our Web site orders have jumped 500 percent causing our Web site e-commerce processing larger deposits to Bank of America. So they decided to hold the deposits for further review.

“After countless hours on the phone with Bank of America, I finally got a manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for further review -- her exact words were -- ‘We believe you should not be selling guns and parts on the Internet.’”(emphasis added)

Sirochman also wrote that he told the bank manager that “they have no right to make up their own new rules and regs” and that “[American Spirit is a] firearms manufacturer with all the proper licensing.”

He also noted that he has been doing business with Bank of America for over 10 years, but will now be looking for a new bank.

According to Unlawful News, this isn't the first time Bank of America has targeted a customer involved in the firearms industry.

McMillan Group International was reportedly told that its business was no longer welcome after the company started manufacturing firearms – even after 12 years of doing business with the bank.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/07/2013 1:56:57 PM PST by CNSNews.com
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To: CNSNews.com

Because thieving banks don’t trust you.


2 posted on 01/07/2013 2:02:14 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: CNSNews.com
will now be looking for a new bank

Will be? I'd have pulled out every dime that wasn't covering recent transactions and orders and moved it within the hour. When will people learn not to use BoA and Wells Fargo?

3 posted on 01/07/2013 2:04:52 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: CNSNews.com
I had to have an account with bank of america once for a car loan. After about 6 months of their crap I refinanced with another bank. Trust me the door did not hit me in the back side as I left and I WILL NEVER darken their doors again.
4 posted on 01/07/2013 2:05:23 PM PST by DWaves
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To: CNSNews.com

Why does anyone want to do business with BOA? This same banking congomerlant refused to allow our flag on one of their branch bank sites a year or so ago. Their name is a misnomer. They do not respect our constitution.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 2:06:57 PM PST by Saltmeat
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To: CNSNews.com

Yesterday, there were a number of PhonyCons posting on FR that claimed this story was bogus. Looks like PhonyCons got it wrong again


7 posted on 01/07/2013 2:13:27 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: bgill

blessing in disguise. Closed mine a long time ago.


8 posted on 01/07/2013 2:13:45 PM PST by Morris70
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To: CNSNews.com

I dumped BOFA years ago, when it came to light they would accept the Matricula Consular ID card from Mexico.

Been with a local credit union, with great satisfaction.


9 posted on 01/07/2013 2:15:40 PM PST by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: CNSNews.com

Talk about an injustice and robbery. Please get an attorney. What a crazy person at the bank/and management which they have a history of this. I am very thankful of not ever having to dealt with these crooks over my life. Bank of anti- America.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 2:25:09 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

If you notice, many of the people bitching about blogs and blog posters as news sources will also take news from the MSM as the word of God.

Since I don;’t have a blog or write for anyone else, the wannabe blog cop thing does not impact me personally, but I find it rather funny to watch them commit act after act of hypocrisy and never once get a clue.

Blog BAAADDDD. MSM Trusted news source.

Right.


12 posted on 01/07/2013 2:27:30 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: CNSNews.com

I’ll be closing my account with them right away!


13 posted on 01/07/2013 2:28:20 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: CNSNews.com

Soo...the bankrupt bank who likes illegal aliens and drug-dealers does NOT like gun owners, huh?

I’ll remember that.


14 posted on 01/07/2013 2:30:01 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Halls

Closed my accounts with them years ago. Nice people in the local branch but too may a**holes at the top! Worst bank in America even with pretty fierce competition.


15 posted on 01/07/2013 2:37:14 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

It would be interesting if you could show any positive comment about the MSM from those blog cops.

That would really shore up your position.

Passing up the MSM crap sandwich in favor of the
Blogs-of-recycled-rotting-roadkill is hardly an improvement.


16 posted on 01/07/2013 2:40:29 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

What is wrong. Why don’t you let the others play and allow the owner of this site to say who gets to post or not and allow the forum to visit links they decide to or not. You are missing the entire story of how the bank is taking control of the manufacturer’s/company funds/his money/his profits.


17 posted on 01/07/2013 2:46:01 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: humblegunner

I’m sorry, but can I see a badge? I mean how do I really know you have any authority other than just whine like a nerd stuffed in a gym locker?

I don’t mean to ‘imply’ you are a nerd stuffed in a gym locker. I just wonder if you do this all on your own or if you have some heretofor unknown authority.

See, it’s because I see posts from many of the sources you badger people about all the time and figure if management did not want them posted, they would be pulled and banned.

But since I have read stories from the same people you bitch about for a long time now, I have to think you’re just trying to attract attention to yourself.


18 posted on 01/07/2013 2:52:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: humblegunner

“It would be interesting if you could show any positive comment about the MSM from those blog cops.”

What, like all the MSM talking points spewed during one of your “Sarah is an ikky girl” tantrums?

Hey, I didn’t want to bring her up, but you asked.


19 posted on 01/07/2013 3:01:38 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
I’m sorry, but can I see a badge?

Do you call the cops when someone cuts in line?

Or maybe do you have the wherewithal to handle it by yourself?

Blogpimping is bad behavior and it doesn't take a badge to spot it or address it.

In what way is your objecting to my posts any different from my objecting to blogpimping?

20 posted on 01/07/2013 3:03:59 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Saltmeat

I have banked with BOA for 14 years with no problems. Not only their staff at the local branch is exceedingly friendly and courteous, even their central phone answering people have given me numerous reversing of charges for accidental overdrafts on my part. I get unlimited check writing with zero monthly maintenance charges and free printing of checks. The bank also gives me free $1000 life insurance each year.


21 posted on 01/07/2013 3:03:59 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: humblegunner; Norm Lenhart
It would be interesting if you could show any positive comment about the MSM from those blog cops.

Hell hum-gun, all your rants against Palin are right there from the MSM, MSNBC crap cartel and you don't give them credit.
Kind of hypocritical of you not to give credit to your authors.
At least give credit to little, humble DU.

Passing up the MSM crap sandwich in favor of the.........

You seem to never be able to pass up the MSM crap sandwich when it comes to Palin or her family, hypocrite.
I'm starting to think your sole purpose here is to stifle conservative opinion (Blogs) and criticize Palin.

22 posted on 01/07/2013 3:04:32 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Fail.


23 posted on 01/07/2013 3:05:37 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: The Cajun

Ain’t you just a little ray of sunshine?


24 posted on 01/07/2013 3:08:17 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Christie at the beach

Do you know Earnest? He is at the beach also.

I have worked with some people at Bank of America and asked them about this last year when another from AZ about Bank of America and gun companies came up. They were in commercial banking and only dealt with large companies and were not familiar with the story. They said that they had no policy to avoid gun companies. The only companies that there group avoided was porn producers.

I know of this group in part because they packed and sent around 250 packages of candy and sundries to the troops every month.


25 posted on 01/07/2013 3:09:19 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: humblegunner

So you have nothing but an attitude problem. Well that was obvious but I mean that’s ‘all’ you have.

So we remain free to comment negatively on your negative comments. Hopefully people will make a habit of that. Because blog posts are not nearly as annoying to read as your bitching is. After all, had we mot been interested in the post/article, we’d not have clicked the link to begin with.

You on the other hand, add exactly nothing but negativity and waste bandwidth.


26 posted on 01/07/2013 3:09:37 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: humblegunner
Ain’t you just a little ray of sunshine?

Just here to brighten your miserable day little buck-a-roo.

27 posted on 01/07/2013 3:10:49 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: humblegunner

Gunner, you are now officially 0 for 7. I do not see your posse coming to save you. As it should be.

WINNING!!!


28 posted on 01/07/2013 3:12:16 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
So we remain free to comment negatively

Yes, I grant you permission.

29 posted on 01/07/2013 3:12:55 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Norm Lenhart
I do not see your posse coming to save you.

I have a posse?

30 posted on 01/07/2013 3:14:28 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Yup. with lotsa sand in it...


31 posted on 01/07/2013 3:15:05 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: CNSNews.com
Arming Goldman With Pistols Against Public: Alice Schroeder
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=ahD2WoDAL9h0
[Title and link only, as no content from Bloomberg is allowed to be posted at FR.]

Intelligent Investing Panel
Going Great Guns
Forbes
David Serchuk, 04.23.09
"Thomas:...But, you know, you could always find another job that would pay all right, and pay slightly above minimum wage, could allow you to at least live and have a home in most communities. And I think that's slowly changed."
[...]
"Forbes: I was in Colorado, and I knew people who had 200, 300 guns. And they'd stash them in various hidden places around their compound. This wasn't all that uncommon out west."
[...]
"Sonders:...we have gone from a couple decades ago being a manufacturing economy to more of a service-oriented, information economy. That has just displaced permanently a lot of workers,..."

Aurora Shooter’s Father Supposed to Testify in LIBOR ?
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/4052/aurora-shooters-father-supposed-testify-libor (TF Metals Report)

BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL
http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/breaking-news-ct-school-shooter-killer-link-to-libor-scandal/

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were to testify
http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify

Gunman’s computers may be key in Connecticut school shooting investigation
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2969326/posts

Rupert Murdoch, Fox News Owner, Calls for Automatic Weapons Ban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2969123/posts

Murdoch calls for automatic weapons ban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2968913/posts

Rupert Murdoch Tells Romney To ‘Stop Fearing [The] Far Right’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2929478/posts

Murdoch Apologizes for ‘Jewish-Owned Media’ Tweet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2961268/posts?page=1

"Gun-Control Group Changes Name, Keeps Agenda"
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5C%5CNation%5C%5Carchive%5C%5C200106%5C%5CNAT20010615a.html
(and Bill is a contributor)

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/july-dec97/guns_11-4.html
(more money for gun control from Gates and his father)

"Is Bill Gates a closet liberal?"
http://archive.salon.com/21st/feature/1998/01/cov_29feature.html
(Bill Gates for gun control, pro-abortion, etc.)

http://vikingphoenix.com/news/madminute/1997/mm970040.htm
(Gates on gun control)


32 posted on 01/07/2013 3:19:08 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ThomasThomas

It is the management ( bank of America) doing this which some of the employees have no say over unless they leave the company after learning this. Happy I don’t bank with them. Period. Even if they have some lovely people because I disagree with the top chairs/officials. Plus the flag issue that occurred before. I only see Ernest here on this forum by the posts; do not know him personally.


33 posted on 01/07/2013 3:19:24 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I love you too, grit-mouth.


34 posted on 01/07/2013 3:21:19 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

What? I didn’t mean to ‘imply anything. It’s a dusty road riding from thread to thread stirring up crap and derailing discussion.

Just thought your boys might have gotten a little trail dust on’em.

Why? did you think I meant something else? Really, I didn’t mean to IMPLY that.


35 posted on 01/07/2013 3:24:14 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Christie at the beach; All
It is the management ( bank of America) doing this which some of the employees have no say over unless they leave the company after learning this.

People, go read any banks disclosure. This is called 'red flagging' banks do this all the time. It's not unusual and is CLEARLY disclosed to customers when they open the account. When deposits exponentially increase a bank will Red Flag the account for review to make sure no illegal activity is taking place.

For the most part this is MANDATED by the gov't. At the very least it is a bank policy.

36 posted on 01/07/2013 3:32:26 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Soothe and please yourself as you will.

Consider that your crying about me is far more disruptive of the thread than any little criticism of mine.

Imply that.


37 posted on 01/07/2013 3:36:42 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

I wonder what started this mess. And who....

Wasn’t me.


38 posted on 01/07/2013 3:37:53 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: sirchtruth
The woman at the bank was quoted in telling the customer that her bank was not helping a company to make profits on selling firearms so they made a decision to hold his money His money! It's nothing but robbery. I hope that he sues them. Hello, anyone home.
39 posted on 01/07/2013 3:43:25 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: humblegunner; CNSNews.com

The whole article was posted, and that’s encouraged at FR. Nothing wrong with that. It’s also news from a conservative perspective. Thanks, CNSNews.com.

humblegunner, we wouldn’t see such news from the media racket sponsored by the bipartisan, socialist political/regulator class (also known as the MSM).


40 posted on 01/07/2013 3:48:05 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I noticed that the complaints come from those who believe anything the liberal MSM puts out. Of course the same MSM that got most of the Sandy Hook story so wrong


41 posted on 01/07/2013 3:51:54 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: humblegunner
What prevents the pimp from posting in full? Why do you think he shouldn't?

Seems like the article is posted in full hum-gun.
On the sauce early tonight, are you?

43 posted on 01/07/2013 3:59:08 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Minutemen

I were a bankster, I’d not want the good guys to be armed.


44 posted on 01/07/2013 3:59:40 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: The Cajun

Yep and yep.

Sure paying a lot of attention, ain’t you?

Care to buy the pay-per-view package?


45 posted on 01/07/2013 4:04:26 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Tell you what, you go up to the top of the thread and read who and what my post was responding to.

Then, see if you can find your name i it. If you cant, then ask yourself why it is that YOU responded to ME.

And since you admittedly have ZERO authority ti dictate posting at FR, the rest of your sand filled little rant is meaningless.

For a guy that defended himself for IMPLYING (your words) Palin was a prostitute (post pulled) I find it odd you’d bitch about ANYTHING anyone else posted. But lust like a liberal, it’s ‘rules for thee and none for me.

Own it Gunner. And go away quietly before you disrupt the thread any further. No one here is on your side. The poster followed the rules and you haZ a tantrum.

Too damn bad.


46 posted on 01/07/2013 4:04:32 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: humblegunner
Sure paying a lot of attention, ain’t you?

Always pay attention to the trolls trying to sabotage the best conservative site on the net.
Some are just pure dumb and repetitious, in an obsessive compulsive, attention whore type of way.............Just observing.

48 posted on 01/07/2013 4:12:17 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; The Cajun; humblegunner

“No one here is on your side.”
“Just here to brighten your miserable day little buck-a-roo.” “Gunner, you are now officially 0 for 7. I do not see your posse coming to save you. As it should be.”

Those of us in Gunner’s “posse” are laughing too hard at your crying about Gunner, to post. Not a good idea to mess with Gunner.

Yours truly,
One of Gunner’s posse (You just thought you didn’t have one - now you do.)


49 posted on 01/07/2013 4:14:51 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: humblegunner

The difference is one of us followed the rules. The poster.

You did not.

I didn’t cleverly do squat. I pointed out a fact. Liberals hate facts.

Palin: According to you she is ‘implied’ to be. What a good God fearing Conservative that makes you.

Just stop now Gunner.


50 posted on 01/07/2013 4:14:58 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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