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19-year-old Socialist takes seat on Red Bank Regional's Board of Education
nj.com ^ | January 05, 2013

Posted on 01/07/2013 9:40:45 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Pat Noble is not your average teenager.... Noble, a graduate of the Monmouth County vocational school The Academy of Allied Health & Science in Neptune, first became interested in socialism while in high school and hearing people from opposing political parties use the term “socialist” to attack each other.

“I decided to do some research into what the problem was with it and I never found it. The rest is pretty much history,” said Noble, who summed up the socialist philosophy as “a society built for the majority instead of the elite minority.”

“I think people who are dead set against the idea of socialism have false logic,” he said. “But I think that if most people have an opportunity to really hear what it’s about, that they’ll agree with it or at least walk away with a real understanding of it.”

In March 2011, Noble helped co-found the Socialist Party of Monmouth and Ocean Counties. And then he spent the better part of the last two years campaigning, first for Freeholder then for Board of Education.

“You reach more people, more quickly when you win an election,” said Noble, whose father, Peter, is a member of the Board of Education for the Red Bank Borough Public Schools. “People would rather hear from a candidate than some guy on a street corner, especially on socialism when a majority of them are capitalists.”

Now, Noble said he plans to stand up for his socialist beliefs as a member of the Red Bank Regional school board. ....

Noble campaigned on a laundry list of issues that he would support, such as school sex education courses including lessons on LGBT lifestyles.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; nj; redbank; socialism

1 posted on 01/07/2013 9:41:00 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Let me guess...he has never worked a real job in his life, and hopes not to?


2 posted on 01/07/2013 9:44:19 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Someone should send him on an all-expense paid vacation to North Korea to further his education


3 posted on 01/07/2013 9:47:48 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The apple didn’t fall far from the tree, eh?


4 posted on 01/07/2013 9:53:46 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I was damned stupid at 19 also.

Perhaps the poor kid will grow out of it.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 9:55:08 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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“. . .Noble, who summed up the socialist philosophy as ‘a society built for the majority instead of the elite minority.’”

Reality be damned, we’ve got a philosophy! - battle cry of the useful idiot. The headshaker is that clowns like this usually are smug and condescending.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 10:08:24 PM PST by Hayride
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To: Tailgunner Joe

In other words, he for the enslavement of the minority by the majority. Deep thoughts... Forever in the search for free stuff... No matter the means...


7 posted on 01/07/2013 10:19:35 PM PST by DB
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“I decided to do some research into what the problem was with it and I never found it."

He's lying and here's why...

1. Asking dad doesn't count as "research".
2. Research is work. Like a 19 year old socialist is going to actually work. Ha.
8 posted on 01/07/2013 10:27:32 PM PST by grateful
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To: Tailgunner Joe

kid has no idea of what a con job socialism is. he assumes there are no elites. no wonder, he admits he never had any history about it.


9 posted on 01/07/2013 10:33:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“I think people who are dead set against the idea of socialism have false logic,”
“a real understanding of it”

Go fill out a self-criticism report and file it with your local commissar.
Don’t forget to register with your Street Committee to obtain your travel documentation and your work placement order.
Tango Whiskey Alpha Tango


10 posted on 01/07/2013 10:53:14 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Back from the Edge of the World, the results may shock you!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Once the socialists infiltrated the educational system of the U.S. the textbooks started excluding the bloody and baleful history of communism and socialosm. These fellow has been lured in without a clue about the utterly failed approach to society. As any emigre from the Soviet set of countries can attest Communism is something to avoid at all costs. It sounds good in theory, but takes away incentive, hope and life itself.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 10:54:39 PM PST by Best and Brightest (Orly Tatiz is a role model for Americans who love their country.)
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To: Bobalu

Me too, but I fear now that he has notoriety it’s all over for this kid. He is now a true idiot.


12 posted on 01/07/2013 11:03:05 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Bobalu

Not a chance in hell this loser will ever leave marxism. He’s self-indoctrinated and that is a hard mindset to break out of. You can write off him off as a leftist jerk but you must also write him in as an enemy of America.

Hey kid, Heavensgate is recruiting space travellers.


13 posted on 01/07/2013 11:19:22 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If/when the cause this moron champions wins here, he’ll surely Blame Bush or some other stupidity when he’s put up against a wall and shot by his socialist “betters.”

And I won’t shed a single tear...


14 posted on 01/07/2013 11:27:04 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Noble campaigned on a laundry list of issues that he would support, such as school sex education courses including lessons on LGBT lifestyles.”

If he really knew anything about “socialism” then he would know that while these are liberal/post-Christian themes, they have no role in socialism. Atheistic communism? Maybe. Socialism?


15 posted on 01/08/2013 2:21:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Trod Upon

“You reach more people, more quickly when you win an election,” said Noble, whose father, Peter, is a member of the Board of Education for the Red Bank Borough Public Schools.

This would indicate that he probably never intends to work a real job in his life, either. His father probably told him about the public school teachers’ gravy train; there are no more ardent defenders of socialism (free education for all gets morphed into class sizes of four kids each, led by a teacher and an aide).


16 posted on 01/08/2013 2:25:37 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Socialists promote homosexuality and promiscuity in order to destroy the family because the socialist views the family as private ownership of women and children by men. Socialists feels that men, women and children should all be public property. Remember that Communism is a type of socialism and that every communist is also a socialist.


17 posted on 01/08/2013 2:41:41 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kearnyirish2
“But Noble said some of the top issues he will be concerned with as a board of education member will be budget related, such as opposing merit pay for faculty members and fighting harder against budget cuts.”

Figures.

18 posted on 01/08/2013 2:43:17 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Yes, they love spending others’ money (with no accountability). I’m not sure why this loser is even news; “socialist” nowadays just means “lazy”...


19 posted on 01/08/2013 2:47:28 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Socialists feels that men, women and children should all be public property.”

The Khmer Rouge certainly put that into action; I see your point.

Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but I think of a thousand other things when I hear “socialist” before I get to those topics.


20 posted on 01/08/2013 2:49:51 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Call them socialists, progressives or Marxists. They are all no damn good and a cancer on mankind. These pieces of crap gave us eugenics, abortion, ruthanasia, mass-murder and death camps. This stupid kid is going to be a problem until Satan calls him home.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 3:28:06 AM PST by Buddy Sorrell ( John Boehner is our Pierre Laval. We need a Charles DeGaulle.)
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To: Best and Brightest

A curse on public education...they have been instrumental in the demise of America.


22 posted on 01/08/2013 3:31:06 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Buddy Sorrell

“This stupid kid is going to be a problem until Satan calls him home.”

No doubt; if there is any glimmer of hope, it is that many of the imported “progressives” don’t even speak the same language as this young fool, and they want a piece of the pie. Here in NJ there is a good chance he’ll lose his seat to a Spanish-speaking “progressive”. Blacks have already lost their place at the Dem table; since they don’t have the numbers, white libs are next.


23 posted on 01/08/2013 3:35:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, he has figured out at a young age how to be one of the elites in a socialist system.


24 posted on 01/08/2013 3:37:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I wonder if he openly campaigned with the socialist designation. If he did, it doesn’t say much about the voters in that area.....


25 posted on 01/08/2013 3:58:58 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: kearnyirish2
The fundamental flaw with socialism is that it devalues the individual. Every human being is unique, and every human being has the right to grow and distinguish themselves individually. If one wants to go live in the woods, off the grid, and write poetry or books that reflect their unique perspective on life, it is their right to do it. Their unique voice has the capacity to enrich the rest of us, because it is different and might add something to our own individuality. The only caveat is that in our individual pursuits we don't hurt other individuals.

Socialism, while touting ‘equality’, is actually extremely hierarchical - much, much more so than free capitalist societies ever are. Every socialist society that you look at has a small number of people, icons, that are worshipped. Few others have the ability to distinguish themselves. Ultimately, this diminishes people.

In a free capitalist society such as traditional America, we don't look at people in government, or in the MSM, or in any aspect of our society, and think of them as our betters. We see a landscape of opportunities, and most of us feel that where we wind up and what we do for a living has more to do with personal choice, where we put our efforts, and some circumstantial contributions, than it does with our personal stature as individuals. A plumber from Akron might be dramatically more thoughtful and creative than a university professor in Boston, or a Senator or a President, and societally we generally all know this. At least until recently we didn't have ‘Dear Leaders’.

Socialism accentuates the importance of ‘the few’, and suppresses the individuality of the rest of society. ‘Activists’ love it, because it gives them a hierarchical structure that allows them to be more important than the homogenous masses they seek to ‘lead’. Just look at this 19 yr. old’s comment that ‘elected office allows you to reach more people’. At 19 he's not concerned with learning from others, or becoming enriched by exposure to other ‘individuals’. He just wants, from his self-indulgent elected position on a school board, to use his new position in the hierarchy to push his views on the ‘masses’.

26 posted on 01/08/2013 4:12:44 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Along with his appointment he brings a wealth of his lifetime experiences and vast knowledge to bear upon his wise decisions and pondering.

/sarc


27 posted on 01/08/2013 5:05:19 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

To paraphrase Frank Herbert, every revolutionary is a closet aristocrat.
He wants to change the world, with the presumption he gets to be in charge of the new order.


28 posted on 01/08/2013 5:40:20 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Tailgunner Joe
We know that teenagers know everything.
29 posted on 01/08/2013 5:46:10 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So, the only newsworthy part is the age, right? Because a socialist on a school board is a ‘dog bites man’ story.


30 posted on 01/08/2013 5:51:48 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn stated it best in his masterpiece on Leftism. The “equality” of socialism/Marxism/French Revolution, is an absolute rejection of “quality”.

Socialism/Marxism is a mass conformity movement which dehumanizes man and reduces man into an “ant state, a termite state” so to supposedly eliminate the emotions of envy and inferiority. To remove emotions from man is impossible—unless he is drugged or pathological (not taught empathy when in the formative ages). That is why all Leftists want dope legalized and incentives to excel eliminated in schools and in the job markets. Merit has to be eliminated. Excellence is ejected from everything. It is why socialist countries alway collapse. They are reduced to the lowest common denominator, since all excellence is punished and vilified.

Human beings are unique—there is no inherent “equality” in them—they are all different, with different personality, etc. Mass movements—are all about the “herd instinct” —the identitarian nature of man-— immature man is animalistic and he will use identitarian groups as a way to ‘multiply his ego’, (feel falsely important) because man is immature and narcissistic.

Individualism is always extremely hard and takes maturity-—you have to leave the herd. Mises states, “The individual lives and acts within society. But society is nothing but the combination of individuals for cooperative effort. It exists nowhere else than in the actions of individual men. It is a delusion to search for it outside the actions of individuals. To speak of a society’s autonomous and independent existence, of its life, its soul, and its actions is a metaphor which can easily lead to crass errors.”

The “love for otherness” and respect for differences comes from Theism and “intellectual character”. Maturity will lead to elevation above the herd instinct and a moral character to reject behaviors of the “group”.

All mass movements-—the “isms” (communism.socialism, nazism, fascism, progressivism, etc.—all Leftism points to the “specter of a terrifying, bigger and more pitiless conformity”. They all “foster the herd instinct” and use emotionalism and eject wisdom and history; the movements eject the intellect which is what raises human beings above our animal nature—to seek the “other” takes maturity and character.

“Everything which is identical is automatically equal. All political systems which are inspired by the ideal of equality will almost inevitably point into the direction of identitarianism and foster the herd instinct (with subsequent suspicion, if not hatred, for those who dare to be different or have a claim to superiority).”

Socialists/Marxists are extremely immature and intellectually stunted—with no understanding of human psychology or philosophy or history. They are ignorant and their narcissism and pride will make it impossible to “educate” them-—since they “know” everything.

I think it was Socrates who said most people do not understand reality until over 30. Their lack of time on earth gives them little possible understanding of it.

Pride is so typical in the youth who know so very little; today they don’t even realize how incredibly ignorant they truly are-—unlike in Ancient Greece where they associated age and experience with Wisdom. Marxists/socialists can’t survive with Truth, Wisdom, Logic, Natural Law and history-—it all exposes the Big Lie.


31 posted on 01/08/2013 6:59:28 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Thanks for an incredibly insightful post. I love it when something someone else writes or quotes puts what I’m trying to say into incredibly concise terms with a clarity that I wish I’d come close to. I love your screen name by the way.


32 posted on 01/08/2013 8:08:09 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: FreedomPoster

At 19 I am willing to guess he doesn’t really know nearly as much as he thinks he does, about socialism or anything else. He is still in the idealistic age and he’s not had a taste of the real world himself.

Not excusing it, just saying age 19 you think you can do anything, you’re never going to die, and you haven’t been on your own yet paying for everything (this kid anyway). He is hardly hardcore, he is incredibly naive and what he knows about socialism was probably taught to him in a romanticized, it’s great, way, rather than realistically looking at what socialism/ists have done to individuals, groups, countries, and the world.


33 posted on 01/08/2013 8:59:41 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well, look on the bright side. This young skull full of mush is to the right of NJ Democrats, and probably more than a few NJ Republicans.


34 posted on 01/08/2013 9:13:29 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...summed up the socialist philosophy as “a society built for the majority instead of the elite minority.”

And other than an attempt to advance yourself politically (because you then become the "elite minority", more equal than the other animals), your main incentive is to slide by doing as little as possible. Remember the old Soviet Union? "We pretend to work, they pretend to pay us".

The kid's on his way to striving to become one of the "elite minority" he despises.

35 posted on 01/08/2013 12:29:18 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Good points, though I think socialism spreads its evils under the guise of the importance of “the many”.

Socialist economies have the same flaws as unions: effort is not rewarded, and attempts to excel are viewed as antagonistic to those who can’t.


36 posted on 01/08/2013 3:02:38 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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