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Barack Obama a Liberal Fascist?
New York Daily Sun ^ | January 8, 2013 | Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D

Posted on 01/08/2013 6:33:34 AM PST by vharlow

There are now two Americas. One America cherishes individual liberty, respects the Constitution and honors the ideals and traditions that made the United States a great country. The other America, composed of liberal fascists, hates all those values and is pursuing an agenda that will lead to tyranny and oppression.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyorkdailysun.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fascism; liberalfascist; obama; obamafascist
I believe it was Jonah Goldberg who wrote a good book about liberal fascism... Clearly, Sellin and others have picked up on and recognize it when they see it.
1 posted on 01/08/2013 6:33:36 AM PST by vharlow
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To: vharlow

Liberal Fascist.

Redundant.


2 posted on 01/08/2013 6:34:39 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vharlow

Can’t be. I’ve been taught all my life that fascism is a right-wing thing.


3 posted on 01/08/2013 6:36:50 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: vladimir998
Redundant.

You're right.

4 posted on 01/08/2013 6:39:34 AM PST by GOPJ (News anchor arrogance is a cover for ignorance. - - freeper ryan71)
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To: vladimir998

Liberal, like gay and comrade, was once a perfectly honorable word. What they actually are is leftist. The Founders were liberal, in the true meaning of the word, not the corrupted modern usage.

If we cannot control the language, we will certainly lose the debate.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 6:39:45 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Fresh Wind

“fascism is a right-wing thing.”

LOL well that is the Official Reality.

We even have fascia on the dime coin!


6 posted on 01/08/2013 6:39:54 AM PST by DBrow
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To: vharlow

To call Zero that is like paying him a compliment. You wanna insult him? Say he’s slightly Left of center... course that’d be a whopping lie.


7 posted on 01/08/2013 6:44:38 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Psalm 144
“The Founders were liberal, in the true meaning of the word, not the corrupted modern usage.” Spot on. Careful now. There are those on this site that don't know the difference between liberal, and Leftist. Including Rush Limbaugh.
8 posted on 01/08/2013 6:48:35 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: vladimir998

Not only that, it’s tautological!


9 posted on 01/08/2013 6:48:43 AM PST by pingman (ust)
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To: vharlow
Never knew of this quote from Sam Adams until I read the article:

"If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!"

Powerful.

10 posted on 01/08/2013 6:52:36 AM PST by Toadman (To anger a Conservative, tell a lie. To anger a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: vharlow

obama is the first ANTI-American president, everything else about him flows from this fact.


11 posted on 01/08/2013 6:53:39 AM PST by no-llmd
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To: vharlow

12 posted on 01/08/2013 6:57:56 AM PST by PLD
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To: Fresh Wind
fascism is a right-wing thing.

They have been lieing to you. If the Nazi's had won and we would have never found out about their atrocities and the Soviets had lost and we found out about theirs the right would have been tarred with Socialism.

NAZI stands for National SOCIALIST Party

13 posted on 01/08/2013 6:59:11 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: vharlow

The title “Liberal Fascism” was to inform people as to what Goldberg’s book was about, ie that some American liberals have long admired fascists. A fascist is a fascist is a fascist. There is not liberal or conservative to it. So Obama being a fascist means just that and there is no liberal about it.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 7:01:47 AM PST by JLS
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To: Psalm 144

“Liberal fascists”. Is there any other kind now?

In an objective view of the Fascist movement of Italy and Spain, and the Nationalist Socialist German Working-men’s Party of Germany, the US liberals, both Democrat and Republican, are following closely in their footsteps. Even the Stalinist Soviet Union and Maoist Chinese Peoples Republic much more nearly resemble the current liberal establishment in this country, than any of the American ideals of God, home and country, with freedom and liberty for all.

In fact, in the early part of the 1930’s, FDR and his New Deal were patterned in great part upon the blueprint being used by both Germany and Italy to shore up the shaky economies of their countries as well. The Germans and Italians managed to make it work for a while by aggressive actions against their own internal dissidents and those in neighboring nations.

But so far, the liberals in the US have not been able to establish “re-education camps” in this country. On the other hand, they do seem to have gained sufficient marginal control of the election process to subvert it to win elections.

It matters not how the people vote, it matters who counts the votes. And there appears, from anecdotal reports, to have been some MASSIVE vote fraud perpetuated in key states that, somehow, at the last minute, tallied up by sufficent margins to win in practically ALL the “battleground” states.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 7:02:56 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: vharlow

16 posted on 01/08/2013 7:06:17 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: vharlow

I thought facism was socialism teamed up with corporations in some way (as in the corporations are part of the government). I guess that could apply sometimes (”green energy”, GE, Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, etc), but everything I’ve read or seen is that he is a garden variety communist & wannabe despot.

no-llmd has the correct answer. That is the bottom line. He hates America so much, he wants to destroy every last thing about us. That is perfectly clear.

(There it is again: 2 Americas. Except that they’re not.)


17 posted on 01/08/2013 7:08:55 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: Psalm 144

Your point on the language thing is a real one.

That’s why I appreciated Alex Jones’ style and substance against Piers T. Morgan, (” T “ for tyrant) on LIVE CNN, before a fascist audience.

First time in decades anyone, anywhere, pushed back in the right tone for the occassion, and used exactly the right language.

With Jones’ nerve and testosterone in his use of language, we conservatives who are not crazy could be taken seriously. Alas, the silence and PC approach has us where we are today.


18 posted on 01/08/2013 7:11:18 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: vharlow
Obama and the lefts concept of “positive” rights are inherently in conflict with “negative” rights (positive, negative the lefts terms)

“Negative” rights are Freedoms
“Positive” rights are Free stuff

The thing is freedom and free stuff are not free....and while all can have freedoms ...for some to get free stuff they must take that stuff and freedoms from others

19 posted on 01/08/2013 7:34:50 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: pingman; vladimir998

Not only that! It’s pleonasmic!


20 posted on 01/08/2013 7:39:50 AM PST by HomeAtLast
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To: KGeorge
I thought facism was socialism teamed up with corporations in some way (as in the corporations are part of the government).

You are close.

Facism is a method of governing. Wikipedia defines it as "Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training"

Corporatism is an economic system. Under Corporatism, corporations are privately owned, they are strong-armed by regulations and quotas to the point that they are essentially controlled by the government. It is a form of socialism.

Both facism and corporatism are aspects of the Nazi party.

21 posted on 01/08/2013 7:54:13 AM PST by kidd
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To: kidd
Under Corporatism, corporations are privately owned, they are strong-armed by regulations and quotas to the point that they are essentially controlled by the government.

But corporatism is a mutually beneficial arrangement - the regulations and quotas are deemed a small price to pay in return for the guaranteed market monopolies, government contracts, and indemnification from the laws of capitalism the larger corporations get in return. This is why the likes of GE and Monsanto are going the IG Farben route and enthusiastically supporting Obama's budding dictatorship.

Smaller businesses, on the other hand, get all of the regulations with none of the guarantees.

22 posted on 01/08/2013 8:06:41 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: ksen

Ping. You are invited to enlighten the thread about how Barry 0bama is really a centrist.

23 posted on 01/08/2013 8:12:23 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Psalm 144

If we cannot control the language, we will certainly lose the debate.

&&&
So true.


24 posted on 01/08/2013 8:16:56 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: DBrow
We even have fascia on the dime coin!

And who just happens to be on the other side?

Yep. Good ol' FDR.

25 posted on 01/08/2013 8:17:23 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
But corporatism is a mutually beneficial arrangement

Not to the consumer. Corporatism means higher prices, lower quality, fewer choices. The system is highly vulnerable to graft. And in the long term, innovation suffers.

26 posted on 01/08/2013 8:24:27 AM PST by kidd
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To: Perseverando

Antony to Brutus


27 posted on 01/08/2013 8:25:24 AM PST by onedoug
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To: alloysteel

“But so far, the liberals in the US have not been able to establish “re-education camps” in this country.”

I beg to differ. Although the architectural subtleties vary they are very much in evidence and our children and grandchildren are corralled within them daily. But I ‘get your drift’.


28 posted on 01/08/2013 8:54:11 AM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: DBrow

I used to try to explain to liberals that right wing doesn’t mean the same thing here as it does in Europe. But I’ve given up arguing with idiots.


29 posted on 01/08/2013 9:35:28 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: MotorCityBuck

Your right. When I was in school it was called “classical liberal” but probably isn’t even taught anymore.


30 posted on 01/08/2013 9:38:13 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Toadman

Yesterday when O was presenting his nominees I had the volume muted but the bottom of the screen qouted him saying, “security is our most important job”. I wanted to scream that no it’s preserving our liberty and freedom.


31 posted on 01/08/2013 9:41:31 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Your right. There’s no way the people governing our country could get away with what there doing if people were truly getting an “Education”, as opposed to “Indoctrination”. How far we have fallen.


32 posted on 01/08/2013 10:03:14 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: Fresh Wind

Regarding the notion that fascism is a right wing ideology : Only if you are a STALINIST. It was Stalin who ordered that the Comintern ( office in the politburo charged to spread the ideology of Marxism)to spread the line that any form of socialism other than Marxism is right wing & reactionary.


33 posted on 01/08/2013 11:05:44 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Fresh Wind

All those endless, repeated ad nauseam , oh so sincere explanations that Fascism is really GASP! left wing, and that, STOP THE PRESSES! - it was called the National SOCIALIST Party, yes, horror of horrors, SOCIALIST! add to that inability to discern irony in your post, all of that day after day, year after year, as if we hadn’t heard this tuneless song before, and it seems that no one out there has been persuaded. Why, oh why?! Just axin’!


34 posted on 01/08/2013 11:14:16 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: vharlow

More accurate: Obama and his following, are fascist nationalizing socialists.


35 posted on 01/08/2013 12:02:34 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Obama is the tool of the liberal fascists. Socialism is the temporary security blanket to put the ignorant in bondage. It promises to provide a fair share of wealth but in the end it will deliver only misery to the masses. The rich and the productive class who Obama has designated as the Golden Goose will fly away. No amount of Mussolini head bows by Obama will bring them back. His arrogant frustration will bring further beatings to the American economy. With fists clenched he will scream at his minions to do something but they will be in Hawaii on long government paid vacation... By the way, Nice tan
36 posted on 01/08/2013 12:54:28 PM PST by Postnbeam
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To: PLD

Well, 50% of your fellow citizens are below average and the kenyan has a lock on those voters.


37 posted on 01/08/2013 1:02:02 PM PST by Sirius Lee (Get your hair clippers, Patriots! The Vichy Republicans asked for it. 2014!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Exactly!!!!

Like the one in this video..She is having Obama voters for the future and expecting us to pay for it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPRtIOmPOD0


38 posted on 01/09/2013 6:11:18 AM PST by PLD
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To: Psalm 144
5 posted on Tue Jan 08 2013 08:39:45 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Psalm 144: “If we cannot control the language, we will certainly lose the debate.”

Agreed.

He who defines, wins.

39 posted on 01/09/2013 8:51:58 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Servant of the Cross
You are invited to enlighten the thread about how Barry 0bama is really a centrist

define "centrist"

40 posted on 01/15/2013 6:45:10 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen; Lakeshark
You're back!

Okay, I'll bite. A centrist = Mitt Romney ... or John McCain.

41 posted on 01/15/2013 10:40:10 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross
You're back!

Only thanks to the groundswell of support from you guys! :hug:

Okay, I'll bite. A centrist = Mitt Romney ... or John McCain.

Two guys vilified by the Right? I'm pretty sure if you go down the line you will find that other than taxes (maybe) Obama and those two guys are in synch with each other.

42 posted on 01/15/2013 12:23:25 PM PST by ksen
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To: ksen; Servant of the Cross; C. Edmund Wright
Ooh! Ooh!

Our favorite leftist is back.

Goodie, we can play again..........kindly ping us to all your clever sayings.......

Quoth the ksen: Bambi is a centrist........*rolls eyes*

43 posted on 01/15/2013 3:09:09 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: ksen

uh, no, you won’t. Obama is way to the left of both of them, McCain next (in reality) then Romney.

And BTW, when you say “other than taxes” - that’s a BIG other. But energy, regulation, second amendment, etc - many many differences.


44 posted on 01/15/2013 3:31:18 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Servant of the Cross
41 posted on 1/15/2013 12:40:10 PM by Servant of the Cross: "Okay, I'll bite. A centrist = Mitt Romney ... or John McCain."

I think I can go with that definition.

45 posted on 01/16/2013 5:07:13 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: ksen
... if you go down the line you will find that other than taxes (maybe) Obama and those two guys are in synch with each other.

Laughable. There are huge dramatic differences (which you already intellectually know); a very incomplete list below:

Federal Deficit
Entitlements
Iran
0bamacare repeal
Supreme Court Justices
Right to work states
Immigration/Magnets
Cap & Trade
Keystone Pipeline
Vice Presidents
Czars
Cabinet: Holder, Kerry, Hagel ....
Same Sex Marriage
Abortion (Roe v Wade)
America's future stabilizing role in the world
Appreciation and love for America's historical role in the world

Sure I would have loved for the GOP to run a conservative rather than a centrist to make the differences that much more obvious. But your boy barry, the most liberal/marxist senator and now president ever, is NO centrist.

46 posted on 01/16/2013 5:39:49 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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