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Conspiracy theory professor says Sandy Hook shooting may not have happened
Daily Mail ^ | 1/8/13 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 01/08/2013 9:51:11 AM PST by Nachum

Outrageous claims made by a professor who specializes in conspiracy theories are set to provoke grieving family by saying that the Sandy Hook massacre may not have happened at all.

James Tracy, a tenured history professor at Florida Atlantic University, wrote a lengthy post on his personal blog saying that the shooting that left 20 children and six teachers dead may not have happened the way that it is widely believed, if it happened at all.

Backed solely by the erroneous early reports filed during the midst of the horrendous incident, Mr Tracy 's claim is preying on the confusion of the tragic day.

'While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place -- at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation's news media have described,' he has said.

The 47-year-old professor bases his outrageous claims largely on the flurry of conflicting media reports that were made as news of the shooting was released throughout the day on December 14.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; conspiracy; conspiracytheory; crisisactors; inconsistantstories; msm; newtown; nutcase; professor; sandy; sandyhook; sandyhookshooting; theory; truther
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1 posted on 01/08/2013 9:51:25 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Backed solely by the erroneous early reports

Incompetence of the media is not a conspiracy, it is business as normal.

2 posted on 01/08/2013 9:55:01 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Nachum
Outrageous claims ...

News media telling you how to think about things.

(They are supposed to tell you what other people say and do and just leave it at that. They deny their bias, but it's pretty darn blatant.)

3 posted on 01/08/2013 9:56:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Nachum
This was fake
4 posted on 01/08/2013 9:57:18 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Nachum

I consider Emilie Parker to be a 21st century version of Schrodinger’s Cat — is she alive? is she dead? The answer has to be: it depends.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 9:59:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Nachum
The 47-year-old professor

Why is his age relevant to this story?

6 posted on 01/08/2013 9:59:30 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: thackney

I don’t know why anybody should be surprised that rumors fly while such events are in progress and immediately afterward, and that a very great many of them turn out to be inaccurate.

I believe in a slightly different context it’s called “the fog of war.”

In the MSM it’s made much worse by a desperate need to have something to report, and even more to be the first to report it. Any outlet that acted responsibly and reported that they really didn’t know yet would immediately lose its audience to one that was reporting something, even if it later turned out to be wrong.


7 posted on 01/08/2013 10:00:18 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Nachum

He is well respected on infowars..

Meaning he is a nut case truther. Please make sure everyone knows this.

in 9/11 Truth, Inner Consciousness and the “Public Mind”

he opines

“With opinion polls indicating at least half of the public distrusting the official account of September 11th, the foremost basis for the “war on terror” “

which is farcical.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 10:01:44 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Nachum
Over the weekend, I spoke with a friend whose co-worker is an aunt of one of the victims. Yes, those children were massacred. Yes, those children are still dead.

I blame the media and its rush to be the first to report the news. If it wasn't for all the erroneous reporting, we wouldn't have all these whacked conspiracy theories.

9 posted on 01/08/2013 10:01:49 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: thackney

Not to worry. As soon as they have the complete story lined up the way they “need” it to line up they’ll give us the “real”story. (Slight cough of B*** S***! in to hand.) The msm, as usual, boned this whole thing up from the git-go. The old “I had my hand raised first” syndrome. In the end, everybody gets a trophy. Maybe even a pull-it-sir prize or two.

Molon labe.


10 posted on 01/08/2013 10:02:08 AM PST by rktman
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To: Nachum

He should have included pix of those children ‘murdered’ and were also at the “memorial” with obama.


11 posted on 01/08/2013 10:02:46 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Nachum

I am sure the parents of the now buried children would differ.


12 posted on 01/08/2013 10:03:29 AM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Yes it is a fake.. normally he uses his middle finger in domestic photos.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 10:06:46 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Raycpa

Prolly went to an uber-liberal college/university. If he was older maybe the school he went to hadn’t gone liberal yet.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 10:06:53 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Nachum

We saw bloody students, shattered glass, sheet covered bodies, etc. at Columbine. Here at Sandy Hook we see nothing. Why is that?


15 posted on 01/08/2013 10:08:02 AM PST by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: Nachum; null and void

Yep.


16 posted on 01/08/2013 10:09:37 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Raycpa

His nuttyness aside, his age is relevant to this because he is most certainly a white man. Specifying his age puts him in that oh-so-hated category of “The Barrack” in this country that have begun their tirade that “Old White Men” are this country’s new N word and a bunch of dinosaurs, who when they die off, will allow the Barack to realize their utopian version of Eden - except without the religion part.


17 posted on 01/08/2013 10:10:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Nachum

Misinformation, no transparency, no official police reports.


18 posted on 01/08/2013 10:15:54 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: ironwill

Seriously?


19 posted on 01/08/2013 10:16:12 AM PST by Flightdeck (My four children have been robbed)
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To: Bidimus1
He is well respected on infowars.. Meaning he is a nut case truther.

Complete ad hominem.

You disagree with him about 9/11 and therefore he is wrong about everything under the sun.

20 posted on 01/08/2013 10:16:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Nachum

The Board of Trustees of FAU should be meeting right now, determining how they hired an idiot and terminating his contract right then and there.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 10:23:00 AM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Conspiracy theorists have a form of mental illness. I have a friend who was a large trader at the CBOT. A few years ago he was worth millions, married to a knockout woman, 3 great kids and a brownstone in a tony section of Chicago.
About 3 years ago we were having dinner and he tells me 9/11 was a set up and it was to fund a trillion dollar war on terror. I knew right then he’d lost it. He started trading on these theories and soon lost everything.

Usually a respected trader with a good track record can get some sort of backing except he’d been telling folks about his theories and no one was willing to back him.

Fast Forward...He’s now living in a studio apartment bagging groceries his wife has left him.
I just saw him recently and he comes out and say’s Sandy Hook was a set up by Holder to take away our guns.


22 posted on 01/08/2013 10:25:43 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Nachum
Sandy Hook has many of the indicia of a false flag operation, IMHO.

The guy crying over his daughter a few minutes after laughing and joking around and then getting into character leaves little doubt (although there is some doubt, admittedly) that he was an actor.

The name "Sandy" seems a little too convenient to me, after Hurricane Sandy. It looks like a marketing ploy to me.

There doesn't seem to be much information on the shooter. None of his neighbors it would appear even knew he existed, according to some MSM reports.

It follows a pattern of the crazed devil-worshiping gunman (Arizona, Colorado) shooting up a crowd with a fully automatic weapon, that seems a bit too consistent to be coincidental.

And qui bono? It comes at a suspiciously good time for the Obama administration.

False flag?

I don't know. I would say that at this point don't believe anything you hear from MSM about this (or anything else for that matter).

23 posted on 01/08/2013 10:26:29 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Bidimus1

Did you know that during the Kennedy Administration there was a plan developed ,signed by the Joint Chiefs, to terrorize America and blame it on the Cubans. One part of it involved planes.

Operation Northwoods.

That doesn’t mean that 9/11 didn’t happen or that it wasn’t the Muslims.

But it does mean there is a basis for distrust of the government and what they are capable of doing to us.

Operation MK Ultra should have clued you in to the depths of depravity that can be authorized.

It is quite possible that Jones is a disinformation specialist. Sort of like Sorcha Faal whom many believe is a CIA disinformation specialist.


24 posted on 01/08/2013 10:27:04 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Nachum
'As documents relating to the Sandy Hook shooting continue to be assessed and interpreted by independent researchers, there is a growing awareness that the media coverage of the massacre of 26 children and adults was intended primarily for public consumption to further larger political ends,' he wrote.

"[T]here is a growing awareness that the media coverage of the massacre of 26 children and adults [IS] intended primarily for public consumption to further larger political ends."

Without his outrageous claim his statement of fact never had a chance of ever appearing in any newspaper; with the outrageous claim.. behold! that fact has appeared in one of the tens of thousands of MSM articles. The newspaper employee slipped up. It won't happen again.

25 posted on 01/08/2013 10:28:08 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Raycpa

Because if he were 94 his rant might be more understandable


26 posted on 01/08/2013 10:28:46 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Nachum
Outrageous claims made by a professor who specializes in conspiracy theories are set to provoke grieving family by saying that the Sandy Hook massacre may not have happened at all.

 

This is no more outrageous than the coverup of what really happened that is ongoing now and certainly no more outrageous than the knee-jerk reaction that what happened in Sandy Hook means that all guns are bad and all guns must be confiscated.

Outrageous claims? The libs have a lock on those.

27 posted on 01/08/2013 10:29:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Nachum

This is the crux of the problem, the more the media practices intentional malpractice in the process of pushing a pointed liberal agenda the much more respected the conspiracy kooks will be among the populace....


28 posted on 01/08/2013 10:33:11 AM PST by GraceG
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To: ClearCase_guy

Complete ad hominem

yes in this case I am attacking the man. The man likes to make things up that are not true. Note I posted a quote by him that shows this.


29 posted on 01/08/2013 10:44:14 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: RummyChick

Yes I knew all that.

Note that it did not happen and that northwoods was a one of thousnads of plans/ideas the are created that were rejected.

Curtis LeMay wanted to first stike the soviets too.. now we did not do that even though there were plans for it.

What is your point, that northwoods was a crazy idea that was rejected ? that would support the idea that CRAZY ideas tend to be rejected!


30 posted on 01/08/2013 10:51:50 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: ClearCase_guy
Complete ad hominem.
You disagree with him about 9/11 and therefore he is wrong about everything under the sun.

If it walks like a duck...

G

31 posted on 01/08/2013 10:53:28 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Nachum
There are a surprising amount of kooks who believe Sandy Hook did not happen or that it was 100% government orchestrated to pave the way for gun-grabbing.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't worry about the government's desire to disarm people. I'm saying those who are convinced this event was government-led for that purpose are loony.

32 posted on 01/08/2013 10:53:52 AM PST by gdani
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“-—normally he uses his middle finger in domestic photos”

I really think I did see, in the same article, a 2nd pix of obama using his special salute - went back to find and could not.


33 posted on 01/08/2013 10:53:58 AM PST by malia
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To: Nachum

I was being fed information from a SHES parent when this was going on.

I wanted to believe that that there were only minor injuries and that there were only a few fatalities (as first reported).

I was being told things were much worse.

The news reports were wrong. They may have been given bad information intentionally to prevent panic and allow for parents to be contacted, but they were wrong.


34 posted on 01/08/2013 11:22:30 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Mitt has dogs for pets - Obama had them for lunch)
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To: Bidimus1

How about MK Ultra? Was that crazy idea rejected?


35 posted on 01/08/2013 11:34:58 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: fatnotlazy

“Over the weekend, I spoke with a friend whose co-worker is an aunt of one of the victims.”

Is that from a SNL skit? Seriously- it made me laugh.


36 posted on 01/08/2013 12:00:59 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: Truth2012

Glad you found it funny. I don’t. And I’m sure the families of the victims wouldn’t find it funny either.


37 posted on 01/08/2013 12:19:35 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Truth2012

Here is some conspiracy evidence that I think has been overlooked by most everyone including the tenured professor.

The evidence I cite involves those therapy dogs that were sent to Newtown to comfort the grieving “actor-parents”. I contend that they were actually fake comfort dogs because real comfort dogs would be able to tell that the “actor parents” were just faking their grief and would not have licked their faces. Just sayin’.


38 posted on 01/08/2013 12:55:15 PM PST by M.T. Helmets (All the news that fits.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Oh. Well, I don’t think there were any victims, so I thought you were kidding.


39 posted on 01/08/2013 12:55:26 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: fatnotlazy; Nachum; thackney; Berlin_Freeper; Raycpa; ironwill; Bidimus1; ClearCase_guy; ...
Make of this what you will.

Consider the source, consider that it isn't welcome on FR.

Consider the implications if it is accurate...

40 posted on 01/08/2013 12:56:54 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: null and void

Consider the source

Thanks. Considering no one talked about it until after the shooting occurred, I consider the reputation of the source as deserved.

Cheers


41 posted on 01/08/2013 1:02:09 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: null and void
Jones thrives on conspiracies, which all have just a smidgen of believability. It is who he is and what he does, there is nothing to little that is actual truth.
42 posted on 01/08/2013 1:07:06 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: null and void

Makes perfect sense to me. United Way planned the attacks.

Or, possibly, somebody fiddled with the image.

Or, there was a glitch that caused the date to come up inaccurately.

Which of the three would Occam’s Razor say is least likely?


43 posted on 01/08/2013 1:08:48 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Truth2012
26 dead people. So no victims. Um....ok....

Oh, I know, they are all alive, but have been confined to special camps to train as Obama’s special militia.

Or maybe they were all taken away and replaced with shot up mannequins.

The dry cleaner must have shrunk your tin foil hat. You need a new one. This hat is cutting off circulation to your brain.

44 posted on 01/08/2013 1:20:36 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Nachum

Here we go, the nutty living in denial folks at it.


45 posted on 01/08/2013 1:20:59 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: null and void
Make of this what you will.

Consider the source, consider that it isn't welcome on FR.

Consider the implications if it is accurate...

Of course, the most logical and most likely answer is that United Way, from their HQ down to this local office in Connecticut, is engaged in a massive conspiracy, probably took part in the "shootings" themselves, and it probably all has to do with The War on Christmas(tm). Or something like that. I'm still working on that part.

Is it not the only explanation at this point?!?!

(Really, this was exactly the type of kookery I referenced in my first post).

46 posted on 01/08/2013 1:28:19 PM PST by gdani
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To: Bidimus1

I disagree with you.

Did you miss the point that the Joint Chiefs signed off on Operation Northwoods.

It wasn’t too crazy for the JOINT CHIEFS.

Do you know why the public knows about MK Ultra?

It’s because Richard Helms didn’t get all of the documents destroyed.
Back then, people like you would have said “Oh, it’s just those conspiracy nuts again”

You don’t know if there has ever been an offshoot to Operation Northwoods...just like you almost didn’t know about MK Ultra.

Btw, here is a KEY point.

Kennedy didn’t say the plan was too crazy.

He said he was not contemplating military force at the time according to Lansdale’s memo.

I am not one of those that believe Bush was behind 9/11

HOWEVER, I am one of those that fully believe that our government is capable of just about anything.


47 posted on 01/08/2013 1:30:45 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: null and void

Have you ever watched the show Spooks ? Called MI5 in the US. I watched it on Netflix.

It is pretty negative about the US..but also government officials in general.

Maybe it is all over the top.

BUT..I don’t doubt some of it happens to some extent.


48 posted on 01/08/2013 1:36:41 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: null and void
Like I said, it has many of the markings of a false flag operation. The laughing actor getting into his character as grieving parent is indeed troubling.

I wonder what the significance, if any, of the term "Sandy" is. My gut tells me it's some sort of marketing slogan for something.

Also, the Arizona, Colorado and Connecticut shooters all share a MK Ultra profile. Were they MK Ultra? I wish that I could dismiss the notion out of hand, but there's too much there to ignore.

49 posted on 01/08/2013 1:50:13 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Biggirl

I suppose you also believe Arlen Specters Magic Bullet Theory?

One of the main victims of that shooting didn’t even believe it!

One of the greatest conspiracy theories of all time - launched by Arlen Specter.


50 posted on 01/08/2013 1:52:24 PM PST by RummyChick
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