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Bullies: Obama Administration Summons NRA to White House
Breitbart Big Government ^ | 1/8/13 | Ben Sharpiro

Posted on 01/08/2013 3:35:23 PM PST by Nachum

Vice President Joe Biden, who is heading up the President’s task force on gun control proposals, announced Tuesday that he would be meeting this week with the National Rifle Association, among other groups. And his timing is just a bit suspect; the day before meeting with the NRA, Biden will be meeting with gun control organizations and shooting victims. Presumably, his welcome for the NRA will be somewhat less hearty. The NRA, under heavy public pressure thanks to the White House’s bully tactics after the Sandy Hook massacre, said it would visit the White House

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1 posted on 01/08/2013 3:35:33 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I could handle this easily. Just say “no Joe”.


2 posted on 01/08/2013 3:36:50 PM PST by dforest
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


3 posted on 01/08/2013 3:36:59 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I could handle this easily. Just say “no Joe”.


4 posted on 01/08/2013 3:37:06 PM PST by dforest
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


5 posted on 01/08/2013 3:38:03 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I hope the NRA just tells them no, no and what part of no more guns laws don’t you understand.

If you try we well fight to the bitter end.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 3:38:29 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Nachum
All the NRA would have to do to become a VIP around this White House is pony up a little contribution.

Reward your friends & punish your enemies, so sayeth the president.

7 posted on 01/08/2013 3:40:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Nachum

Summons - And the NRA is going?
They should have said bugger off.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 3:41:01 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: riverrunner

I will not be infringed.
If I am, it will mean our contract is null and void and it’s time to write a new one.


9 posted on 01/08/2013 3:41:09 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nachum

Thanks very much, Nachum.


10 posted on 01/08/2013 3:42:04 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Nachum

Brilliant strategy except for the fact most gun owners don’t even belong to the NRA. The opposition is grassroots so the WH could get a total concession from the NRA and it won’t change a thing.


11 posted on 01/08/2013 3:42:27 PM PST by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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12 posted on 01/08/2013 3:42:56 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Nachum

Hand the commies a copy of the Second Amendment, turn around, and leave.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 3:43:26 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Nachum

Punks.

Have some balls, Wayne. Don’t bow your knee to these jerkoffs.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 3:44:39 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: tet68

Exactly. Bust one amendment, you just busted all of them. FU Obama. Bust the Constitution, your authority is no longer valid.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 3:45:14 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: laweeks
BINGO and worth repeating

Hand the commies a copy of the Second Amendment, turn around, and leave.

16 posted on 01/08/2013 3:46:05 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: riverrunner
I hope the NRA just tells them no, no and what part of no more guns laws don’t you understand.

I think I might bring up the Federal "gun laws" currently on the books which are rarely enforced. How many "Felon commits another crime using sawed off shotgun" stories have you seen where the miscreant pleads down to an armed robbery and the gun crime is expunged.

Regards,
GtG

17 posted on 01/08/2013 3:50:48 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Nachum

Begun it has, the end of the Republic draws near - ready your arms boys - it’s going to get nasty...

...to the cheers of entitlement junkies - liberals - socialist - and the dark one - in the next few weeks the US will be attacks by a domestic force - one that will continue the destruction of the US Constitution...what say the officers of the US Military?


18 posted on 01/08/2013 3:53:22 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Nachum

Why meet with the NRA? Any such meeting would signify culpability on NRA’s part. What on Earth could 0bama/NRA agree to that would benefit the NRA or even be mutually beneficial? NOTHING. This is a losing proposition. Get a clue, NRA, or lose a few thousand members to the GOA (Gun Owners of America), the ONLY “no compromise gun lobby in America”. Got that, NRA? NO COMPROMISE.


19 posted on 01/08/2013 3:53:26 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Nachum
A summons? Like to appear in court?

Who does he think he is?

Why not hold "another beer summit"? Summons is a loaded word.

20 posted on 01/08/2013 3:54:32 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: onyx
One is Pure Evil.

The other is just a Moron.

You got that 100% right Onyx my dear!.

21 posted on 01/08/2013 3:58:11 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: laweeks

Tell Biden to get back to us when his gun control “thoughts” gets Chicago cleaned up.


22 posted on 01/08/2013 4:01:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

Nothing that anyone has proposed would have stopped the SH shooter and therefore is just political posturing. The thing that would have stopped/slowed this idiot is if the full capacity mags had been locked away. To me it sounds like a pretty benign proposal. Everyone gets to keep their mags but the owners must lock them up when not in use. If you use an AR for home defense you can keep a few 10 rounders handy. If you hear someone breaking in and you have time, get out the 30 rounders. Obama suspends the constitution, civil unrest, mob violence, zombies, going to the range, training, etc. get out the full capacity mags. How does that sound?


23 posted on 01/08/2013 4:01:49 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Nachum

Yet Congress can’t get the 0bama administration (Clinton) to comply with a legitimate summons on Benghazi.


24 posted on 01/08/2013 4:04:02 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Nachum

I don’t think there have been enough republicans who have flipped yet, so no legislation will pass. Looks like we’ll be getting another exec order


25 posted on 01/08/2013 4:04:32 PM PST by C0nservativeJunkie
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To: Nachum
Enjoy the visit...just don't take the corporate jet. That didn't work out very well for the car execs.

Remember, appearance over substance is what matters to the one stream media and its customers. Fly coach or drive an older car to the meeting.

26 posted on 01/08/2013 4:06:53 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: BCW
Begun it has, the end of the Republic draws near - ready your arms boys - it’s going to get nasty...

Yep. Just make sure those responsible don't escape.
27 posted on 01/08/2013 4:08:39 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: Nachum

Is this “summons” legally binding? Otherwise, the NRA should not comply.


28 posted on 01/08/2013 4:11:04 PM PST by virgil
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
The thing that would have stopped/slowed this idiot is if the full capacity mags had been locked away. To me it sounds like a pretty benign proposal.

Not really. The shooter was changing mags when they were still half-full, so he could've done just as much damage with a bunch of full 10-round mags.

29 posted on 01/08/2013 4:13:03 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Nachum
The NRA, under heavy public pressure...

They are? I sure haven't seen it, outside of the usual handful of loudmouth Democrat scumbags..
And I wouldn't call that the "public" by any stretch.

30 posted on 01/08/2013 4:14:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: crosshairs
Just make sure those responsible don't escape.

Some will, for sure. But that's okay - I've always wanted to go hunting overseas.

31 posted on 01/08/2013 4:17:05 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
The thing that would have stopped/slowed this idiot is if the full capacity mags had been locked away.

There have been reports that the SH shooter didn't expend his mags before swapping them out, that there were still rounds left in them. Possibly a lot of rounds. Apparently due to his fixation (and possibly muscle memory) with first-person shooter games that allow the shooter to replenish their virtual ammo at any point without penalty.

If someone can please repost the link to those, I'd appreciate it.

If accurate, it should serve to demonstrate that high-capacity mags weren't really an issue here. What it WOULD mean is that detachable mags were - since it only takes a second or two to swap out mags.

At least that's how the Left will portray it. I know a lot of gun-ignorant Libs who have managed to get well educated, VERY quickly, on the differences between high-cap mags, low-cap mags, detachable mags, etc. I have no doubt that's where they're going in a incremental manner. First ban "mean-looking" guns and "high-capacity" mags. Then go after semi-autos and low-capacity mags. Then go after detachable mags altogether.
32 posted on 01/08/2013 4:25:17 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: dforest
I could handle this easily. Just say “no Joe”

Incorrect.

I am booked solid can't possibly make it, but you are welcome to come to my place at 10:30 on Thursday.

Never go to their place...always make them come to you.

33 posted on 01/08/2013 4:25:49 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: laweeks
Hand the commies a copy of the Second Amendment, turn around, and leave.

I would *not* respond to their "summons". All that Obama is trying to do is make this look like a compromise, where a pro-gun heavyweight is agreeing to the deal. They need a photo to run with that story. Don't give it to them.

34 posted on 01/08/2013 4:26:09 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: FrdmLvr

Yep, let alone acting on a contempt citation against Eric Holder.


35 posted on 01/08/2013 4:28:34 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Nachum

Here’s hoping they tell the gungrabbers to ESAD.


36 posted on 01/08/2013 4:29:51 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Nachum
Molon Labe !!!

37 posted on 01/08/2013 4:31:53 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Nachum

When “summoned” by the dictator, always bring your musket.


38 posted on 01/08/2013 4:33:26 PM PST by Argus
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To: Nachum
You know what Obama’s thinking, “I want your membership list and I want it NOW!”
39 posted on 01/08/2013 4:34:55 PM PST by 444Flyer (Genesis 12:3)
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To: Nachum
Dear Joe,

You want to talk to me?

Make an appointment and come to MY office.

Signed NRA

40 posted on 01/08/2013 4:38:45 PM PST by TYVets
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To: eyedigress
Bust the Constitution, your authority is no longer valid.

There it is.

41 posted on 01/08/2013 4:41:37 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
The thing that would have stopped/slowed this idiot is if the full capacity mags had been locked away.

He killed his own mother and stole her guns. What would have stopped him from stealing the magazines too?

Everyone gets to keep their mags but the owners must lock them up when not in use.

And you enforce that...how?

42 posted on 01/08/2013 4:51:01 PM PST by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Everyone gets to keep their mags but the owners must lock them up when not in use.

Uh, no. My house...my rules and you and your fascists don't get a say in it.

43 posted on 01/08/2013 4:52:24 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Nachum

The NRA,through its members, should tell him to kiss their asses.


44 posted on 01/08/2013 4:54:48 PM PST by sport
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To: Nachum

The NRA,through its members, should tell him to kiss their asses. But I smell a sell out coming.


45 posted on 01/08/2013 4:55:39 PM PST by sport
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To: Nachum

NRA needs to take the offense demand they repeal NFA 1934 and 1968 gun control and all silly states gun controls...


46 posted on 01/08/2013 4:56:28 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: eyedigress
"Exactly. Bust one amendment, you just busted all of them. FU Obama. Bust the Constitution, your authority is no longer valid."

His "authority" NEVER was valid.

Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),

Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.

But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

47 posted on 01/08/2013 4:57:03 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Godebert

I understand your point but the powers that be recognize his position as valid. It is what it is.


48 posted on 01/08/2013 5:03:59 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: BCW
Actually, it will take more than ready arms. It will take an organized militia with arms.

And in this case, it will take an organized militia wherein all the members don't know each other (because weak militia members will expose the membership when pressed by the opposition).

This is a time for those who want to defend this country and its constitution to become strong and clever.

Even the old among us must get fit...and armed. And we need to stay isolated so those traitors (like Obama) cannot divide and conquer us.

Get a weapon...practice with that/those weapons...and get physically fit...get strong.

49 posted on 01/08/2013 5:11:02 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Liberty and Freedom!)
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To: tanknetter

“There have been reports that the SH shooter didn’t expend his mags before swapping them out, that there were still rounds left in them. Possibly a lot of rounds.”

I heard that too but considering how accurate the media reports have been I dont put too much faith in them. We also dont know how many rounds he fired from each mag before changing. Could have been a few or many.


50 posted on 01/08/2013 5:14:04 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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