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California board challenges Boy Scouts' ban on gay members, approves teen's Eagle Scout bid
ap/fox news ^ | january 8, 2013

Posted on 01/09/2013 4:05:32 AM PST by lowbridge

SAN FRANCISCO – A review board has challenged the Boy Scouts of America's prohibition on gay members by recommending a local teenager for the rank of Eagle Scout, but the action won't have an immediate effect on the young man's status, his father said Tuesday.

The four-member board unanimously approved 18-year-old Ryan Andresen's application on Dec. 31 and hand-delivered it to the Mt.Diablo-Silverado Council's leadership, the boy's father said.

The board agreed to review Ryan's qualifications after the Moraga teen's scoutmaster refused to sign off on the paperwork after Ryan came out as gay last fall.

But the staff executive has refused to forward the recommendation to the national organization for final approval, leaving the board's endorsement as only a moral victory for the boy's family. Eric Andresen said he didn't expect national Boy Scout leaders to support his son, but is still disappointed.

"Ryan always hasbeen the mentoring type, the big brother type.He saw this as not only an opportunity,but a responsibility to try to make change, and he has said it many times that he doesn't want any other Scout to have to go through this," Andresen said. "It's just blatantly unfair."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; california; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 01/09/2013 4:05:44 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

This is the beginning of the end for Boy Scouts.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 4:14:25 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: lowbridge

Scout oath includes mentally awake and morally straight. A promise Ryan has compromised and a critria he lacks to achieve the honor of Eagle.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 4:15:52 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: lowbridge

Typical liberal intolerance. All their talk about respecting others’ beliefs goes out the door when there’s something they want.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 4:17:43 AM PST by Cato in PA (Land of the free and the home of the brave? Wrong on both counts.)
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To: lowbridge
Ryan always has been the mentoring type, the big brother type.

That's the worry, hence the ban...

5 posted on 01/09/2013 4:17:57 AM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: lowbridge

But the staff executive has refused to forward the recommendation to the national organization for final approval, leaving the board’s endorsement as only a moral victory for the boy’s family. Eric Andresen said he didn’t expect national Boy Scout leaders to support his son, but is still disappointed.

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In other words, propaganda.

Isn’t there actual news happening now?


6 posted on 01/09/2013 4:26:08 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cato in PA

Intolerance is not an issue. The action is a deep cut, merely one of the thousand being inflicted to destroy that which is opposed to the liberal mantra.

The day is here where liberals must be exterminated. No live ant let live will save us from destruction.

The tyranny of the law has destroyed America


7 posted on 01/09/2013 4:31:01 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: lowbridge
Ryan always has been the mentoring type, the big brother type.

Translation: Grooming younger boys for use as sex-partners, just as probably happened to him, whether in the Scouts or another context.

The new frontier in abuse lawsuits: boys who were homosexually abused by older (but still "minor") boys.

8 posted on 01/09/2013 4:31:58 AM PST by Tax-chick (Please explain how my being in a fuss would help the situation.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
>>In other words, propaganda.
 
In other words, the tyranny of the majority - which is why we were supposed to have a Republic, a framework of governance constituted by LAW, and not an arbitrarily defined, democratic, amoral cluster frackus.

9 posted on 01/09/2013 4:32:42 AM PST by TArcher
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To: DH

The action brings the troop leadership under scrutiny. The Troops charter should be revoked.


10 posted on 01/09/2013 4:33:33 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: bert

>>The tyranny of the law has destroyed America

No, theh perversion of the Law by the Tyranny of the Majority has destroyed America.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 4:34:37 AM PST by TArcher
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To: lowbridge

The BSA is a private organization and had its standards. The morally/mentally-ill State of Kalifornikate’s action means zero. Stay the course, BSA.

carriage_hill
Eagle Scout
Class of 1963


15 posted on 01/09/2013 4:36:47 AM PST by carriage_hill ("I meant to say maggot, but I have a lisp.")
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To: lowbridge

Why won’t the gay community set up their own gay boy scout outfit versus the non-gay organization? Call it “rainbow scouts”?


16 posted on 01/09/2013 4:40:25 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: TArcher

The Boy Scouts of America is a private youth organization.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 4:41:42 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

>>The Boy Scouts of America is a private youth organization.

A private youth organization constituted by Law.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=The+Scout+Law

Law which this turd burglar and his “reviewers” would like to see perverted to suit their own self-evident amorality.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 4:46:25 AM PST by TArcher
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To: existentially_kuffer

Rainbows are a gift from God as a promise to man never to flood the world again. Homos don’t own the rainbows


19 posted on 01/09/2013 4:47:39 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: existentially_kuffer
Why won’t the gay community set up their own gay boy scout outfit versus the non-gay organization? Call it “rainbow scouts”?

They did, back circa 1933 IIRC it was called the NAZI party.

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

NEVER AGAIN.

20 posted on 01/09/2013 4:50:53 AM PST by TArcher
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To: WinMod70

As long as the boy is celibate, as should be all scouts and especially Eagles, it is less of a problem than it appears When and if he starts having sex outside the holy bonds of marriage, whether whether with a male or female, then action can and should be taken.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 5:06:05 AM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

22 posted on 01/09/2013 5:16:12 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: TArcher

tyrany of the minority.


23 posted on 01/09/2013 6:33:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bert

all those who voted yes should be booted and the charter revoked for insubordination.

This is an utter lack of respect that should not be allowed to stand as an example condoning abnormality.


24 posted on 01/09/2013 6:36:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lowbridge
From the article:Well stated. Simple, clean, pure, no BS.
25 posted on 01/09/2013 6:40:17 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Burkean

As long as the boy is celibate....

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Well, the piece says that he announced his paraphilia in the fall. Unless he has plans of acting on his urges, why announce his disorder to the world?


26 posted on 01/09/2013 6:45:48 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: lowbridge

This poorly written article doesn’t tell us ANYthing about this mysterious “Review Board”. Is it a government entity? A scout sponsored committee? All we know is that they are at odds with the rules of Scouting and that they have four members. Do they even have a name?!

Boy, reporting has gone WAY down hill.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 6:53:57 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Bigg Red

No problem can be dealt with until one admits it exists.

I also think the issue of non celibate scouts (and the public at large) needs to be addressed. Sexual activity outside of marriage is too accepted in our world today. There is no sense of shame anymore.


28 posted on 01/09/2013 7:05:16 AM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: lowbridge

Try to imagine just a few years ago, if a homo were to emerge in Scouting. Your first thought, of course, is why would any parent not want their boy sharing close quarters with a male sexual pervert obsessed with another boy. The answer is, the parents would be outraged, demanding the homosexual be kept at a distance from other boys. This is the natural reaction in every sense. Now, the homosexual kid demands he have full access to all the other boys, who are the object of his perverted obsession. These sex-offenders seem destined to have all of their wants satisfied at the expense of normal people.


29 posted on 01/09/2013 7:08:05 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: lowbridge

I have long thought that the Boy Scouts should create a spin off special branch specifically for “Old School Scouting”.

This is because while the majority of Boy Scouts need and want “urban and suburban” character development, there are still boys who want a more “roughing it” experience. While the Explorers are still urban and suburban and career oriented, this would be a different program entirely.

To start with, Scouts could not just join this organization, but would have to pass some stringent tests to get into it.

By this I mean a hard physical test, demonstrate proficiency, not just basic skills, with: knives, axes and hatchets, a variety of guns and archery, construction of shelters, first aid; plant and animal identification, animal trapping, and preparation of plants and animals and cooking them for food; field water collection and purification. Field communications, such as semaphore, Morse code, and hand mirrors. Lots of other qualifiers as well. Skills required for backwoods survival.

Importantly, this would be expensive, and participation would likely run the duration of an entire summer. They would need their own Scout reservation, and the last two weeks of the summer would be devoted to maintenance, repair, restoration and improvement of the reservation for the next year.


30 posted on 01/09/2013 7:39:41 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I have long thought that the Boy Scouts should create a spin off special branch specifically for “Old School Scouting”.

There's already a small group like that, although it's not connected with the BSA, It's called the Baden-Powell Scouts' Association.

31 posted on 01/09/2013 9:44:51 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: DH

...and the beginings of Obamas Youth. This is how Hitlers Youth started. Infiltrate, corrupt and use. If I had a yound son he would not be in the BSA. I would just have to teach him all that stuff myself.


32 posted on 01/09/2013 10:08:20 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Burkean

Sexual activity outside of marriage is too accepted in our world today. There is no sense of shame anymore.

^^^
You are absolutely right. Very sad state of affairs we have come to. It is just astounding to see how mores have changed in just the past 30 years.


33 posted on 01/09/2013 10:29:29 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: lowbridge

Mitt Romney’s goals continue to advance.


34 posted on 01/09/2013 1:14:25 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said “conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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