Skip to comments.Beyond 9mm: Concealed Carry in .40 and .45
Posted on 01/09/2013 5:37:14 AM PST by bestintxas
The 9mm is a great round, and in my last concealed carry post I covered some great concealed carry guns built around that caliber. However, there are a lot of handguns in larger calibers that are perfect for concealed carry as well -- that are also designed for concealed carry -- and these guns carry the benefit of having more knock down power, or more one-shot stopping power.
Specifically, I'm thinking about handguns chambered in .40 and .45 caliber.
To cover these rounds, I'm going to examine the Glock 27 in .40, the Smith & Wesson M&P in .45, and the Springfield XDS in .45.
Let's begin with the Glock 27.
Just as I wrote concerning the Glock 26 in an earlier post, the Glock 27 is as close to handgun perfection as mankind can witness in this world. It is compact, unbelievably durable, and it shoots any kind of factory-loaded ammo you want to put through it.
Like the Glock 26 in 9mm, the Glock 27 in .40 provides great second shot accuracy for those who take the time to practice, practice, practice. Unlike the 26, the model 27 shoots the potent .40 cal round. This round is very popular with federal agencies and police departments and is a concealed carry staple because of its raw stopping power.
For anyone unfamiliar with the .40 cal round, it is slightly more expensive to buy than 9mm, but not significantly so. And plus-P hollow points in .40 cal are simply a force to be reckoned with.
The Glock 27 comes standard with two 9 round magazines, and it's so popular that accessories galore -- holsters, lights, lasers, etc. -- are readily available for it.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
My wife has the M&P .40 cal compact - great home defense weapon - plus the multiple magazines that I purchased to go along with it...
I carried a .40 cal S&W 4006 when I was in L.E...
After multiple tours in Iraq using both the 92F and Glock in 9mm....
I came home and purchased a .40 cal S&W 410 SS and a Springfield 1911 .45cal...I carry the 1911 all the time...great weapon...
One must take into consideration that there is several hundred million .40 rounds out there in somebody elses warehouses as well.
Maybe Santa Claus will bring me one later this year.
Among these, how would the Kimber compare?
was going to do a diatribe against glocks. I don’t like them, but if you are comfortable with one go for it.
as far as caliber...depends how much weight and bulk you can carry. When I was young, I use to tote a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag on my belt all day while hunting...did not even know it was there....
now when I conceal carry, I feel weighed down by my tiny (but steel)Colt Mustang .380. My son bought himself a Ruger lightweight LCP the same caliber and it is practically weightless. now they have a similar piece in 9mm...the LC9...more power...I have fired both, and if you like DAO guns, these are hard to beat.
good luck with whatever you do...and watch out for the Gun Grabbers! it is open season on The Constitution!
Lock and Load
There’s no such thing as “knock down power”.
Most of us are not snipers and a 9mm chambered carbine (the extended barrel adds about 300fps) could be the most efficacious home defense system for Joe paycheck to paycheck Six-pac in the current race to prepare for the coming totalitarian tyranny of the Marxist Obama.
I'm not a fan of CC weapons with no external safety features, nor am I a great fan of the .40 cal round. I'd go with either a compact .45 (which is what I do, most of the time), or a 9mm - a smaller round, to be sure, but compensated for by higher muzzle velocity and extra magazine capacity (up to 16+1 in the Springfield XD). The 9mm gets a bad rap in my opinion. It's perfectly serviceable for self-defense, using good-quality JHP's. Shot placement is everything, of course; that's why we train and practice.
Says who? I've seen several people shot with a .45 and all of them died. Seems to me it knocked 'em down just fine.
I think you’ll still within the Christmas period — I would get it NOW! I’ve shot Glock alot - had to per regulation to carry that weapon hot in Iraq...but nothing compares to the old standard - tested in combat - served this nation well - than an 1911!
I’ve seen and held the XDS - but I’m kinda off of the composite lower style of weapons — but if that’s the weapon that suits you - then get it - train with it - and carry it!
It really depends on the user - scary things are happening - I went on line yesterday trying to find anyone that has 30rd magazines for AR15/M4 rifles in .223/5.56 - and all I got was, “Out of Stock” -— if some of the people were armed before Sandy Hook and Fienstein’s meddling - now ALL the people are armed with something...
Get it now before we are all buying percussion cap .44cal pistol and walking around like Blondie(Clint Eastwood)...
Good but expensive.
“Among these, how would the Kimber compare?”
Kimber may be going out of business today at 1:30 p.m. when Cuomo announces his “extreme new gun laws” for NY State.
Then you need more practice. There is no excuse for poor marksmanship skills.
Kimbers are beautifully-made weapons, especially their 1911 .45’s. Great materials, fit, and finish, But they come with a hefty price tag.
I don’t get...”and it shoots any kind of factory-loaded ammo you want to put through it”. I can literally put any kind of bullet into this gun?
I’m new to all of this and have been looking for a handgun that can stop an intruder and be fired by my 15 year old daughter without loss of control. Any suggestions?
A full size 1911 in .45 is not at all hard to carry all day for the average size person in the right holster.
As in Goldilocks and the Three Bears: The 22 is a bit large; the 27 is a bit small; the 23 is just right!
Because a poor shot never gets to join the Corps.
Is not being good enough to be a Marine just an excuse or can just anybody be a Marine?
I agree with your post. There is no one shot sure stop with a hand gun (short of getting to the CNS.) I recall an incident reported in NYC in the 70s when the police and feds fired and hit a subject over 40 times in an elevator with rounds from 380 to 45 cal and the guy still managed to get his hands around the neck of a Narc and almost choked him to death. He bled out eventually.
That said, I personally prefer the sandw 40 and use a Bersa ultra compact as I like the external safety feature. When I was on the job, carried a Glock 19 then a Glock 22 over my last 10 years there. Having used a wheel gun (sandw 19)before that, never became comfortable with the trigger safety...a personal preference matter for sure.
What a load of crap!
Marines are TAUGHT marksmanship!
Here’s a no BS article from a no BS sort of guy who has actually used a gun to defend his life and end others:
Oh, and putting my money and my life where my mouth is I daily carry a .40 caliber Glock G23 with Gold Dot 165 JHPs in it.
I would suggest a 20 gauge shotgun for you and your daughter for home defense.
Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870 would work fine. Under $400
A full size 1911 in .45 is not at all hard to carry all day..
I love .45 but I live in South Texas where it is hot and humid. Uniform of the day is shorts, T-shirts and flip flops 9 mos out of the year.
I do admit to wearing jeans, socks and shoes several days out of the year, however.
I feel most comfortable with front pocket, cargo pocket or rear pocket carry.
Nothing over 16 oz. or it really feels like my shorts are about to hit the floor before I give the command.
You'll need to test various handguns, but it's hard to beat a good 38sp/357mag revolver.
Also check out the FN Five Seven if you don't mind dropping a grand or so. It's used by the secret service.
stop an intruder and be fired by my 15 year old daughter without loss of control. Any suggestions?
regarding your point, the only thing that helps with that is grip and practice. When adrenaline is pumping, rote response rules the day. As to what gun, that is personal to the person who will be using it. I’ve seen men and women who can fire high caliber firearms well, and some poorly. My wife falls in the latter category so we have a 20 gauge double for her in case an intruder gets inside...she is confident with that, more so than with any hand gun.
I have the mod 22 .40 Glock and like it a lot.
(shrug) Works for me.
I have a 23, and a 27. The 23 stays home, the 27 travels a lot.
Reagan was very nearly killed by a ricochet from a cheap .22 cal snub nosed revolver.
I’ll pass on this glass of Glock cool-aid, thank you very much.
I used to believe that was true.
However, several reports over several years of suspects carted off to the hospital after 3,5,7, or 9 hits from a 9mm changed my opinion. If someone is threatening me I don't want a round that sends them to the hospital, I want a round that sends them to the morgue.
Some will only feed reliably with round nose, not the best choice for defense.
As for home defense, look at an all stainless steel .357mag double action revolver with 4” barrel.
You can shoot .38 special or .357mag. any style bullet will work. Mix or match makes no difference. Still works.
If one round fails to fire for some reason just pull the trigger again for the next round. No having to learn how to clear a jam. Load, aim, shoot, eject. Repeat.
I’ll keep my G19. Critical Duty +p is just as effective as a .40 using anything else.
Good thing the barrel is ported. Otherwise it would kick like a mule.
The Marines teach marksmanship. I can tell you from personal experience, many of the Marine Recruits come from the cities and have never fired a long arm before joining. Many of them have never used a shovel or swung a sledge either.
I’ve CC a Sig p220, a full sized DA 45acp weapon. You do need to choose your wardrobe carefully though.
I would have to agree with that except for the .45 for obvious reasons. The problem is you really only get one good shot. A 9mm holding 15 Critical Duty is heady stuff. Who cares if it can penetrate a car doors and windows. That’s cop stuff.
I own and XD in .45 ACP. I love it.
The 9 mike mike is the most common round, it’s used by most miltary forces so running out will not be an issue. Same same for .223/5.56 and 7.62. I can carry more rounds of 9mm than .40. Heck, I can carry a brick of .22s in the space of 5 9mm/.40 mags. Weight matters when hoofing.
.22 may be small but most will break off an attack when hit a few times from max range. We are talking about people not Grizzlies.
Glock 32 and an M4. My back up is a .22 mag bolt action that is accurate out to 150yards+. I have 3000 rounds for it.
As I recall, recruits are taught marksmanship and don’t become Marines unless they meet the Corps’ minimum standards.