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Little Canada man videotaped sheriff's deputies, and got charged for it
pioneer press ^ | 1-8-13 | emily gurnon

Posted on 01/09/2013 5:41:40 AM PST by TurboZamboni

Andrew Henderson watched as Ramsey County sheriff's deputies frisked a bloody-faced man outside his Little Canada apartment building. Paramedics then loaded the man, a stranger to Henderson, into an ambulance.

Henderson, 28, took out his small handheld video camera and began recording. It's something he does regularly with law enforcement.

But what happened next was different. The deputy, Jacqueline Muellner, approached him and snatched the camera from his hand, Henderson said.

"We'll just take this for evidence," Muellner said. Their voices were recorded on Henderson's cellphone as they spoke, and Henderson provided a copy of the audio file to the Pioneer Press. "If I end up on YouTube, I'm gonna be upset."

Henderson calmly insisted he was within his rights to do what he was doing. He refused to give his name.

His is the latest in a string of cases nationwide involving citizens who record police activities.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; govtabuse; littlecanada; minnesota; rapeofliberty; tyranny
"I wish the police around the country would get the memo on these situations," said Jane Kirtley, professor of media ethics and media law at the University of Minnesota. "Somebody needs to explain to them that under U.S. law, making video recordings of something that's happening in public is legal."

The courts have been "pretty clear" on the issue, Kirtley said. "Law enforcement has no expectation of privacy when they are carrying out public duties in a public place."

yet the county is still proceeding with prosecution.

1 posted on 01/09/2013 5:41:43 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Well, the US has it’s well known constitution. I can’t speak to what is constitutional in Canada, but some laws have already been upheld there that would NEVER see the light of day in the US thanks to the first ammendment. So who knows if the cops will prevail in this case?


2 posted on 01/09/2013 5:48:45 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Never mind. I interpreted “little canada” to be Canada.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 5:50:49 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

...me too..


4 posted on 01/09/2013 5:52:41 AM PST by Does so (Dims don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Why is this man called ‘little’? Have they pants him, to make sure?


5 posted on 01/09/2013 5:54:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: TurboZamboni
yet the county is still proceeding with prosecution.

Sure, they have lawyers on staff, and no-one has to take money out of their monthly budget to proceed.

The guy that is being prosecuted, though, has to hire a lawyer and blow his monthly budget to defend himself. He's already being punished, even if he gets off of the charges.

/johnny

6 posted on 01/09/2013 5:55:34 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cuban leaf

I live here in the metro, Little Canada is but a small city in the greater St Paul area. The Ramsey County sheriffs dept has been known to overstep the bounds.

I hope this gets enough attention so a decent law firm can provide the guy with some donated help to make an example out of these law enforcement thugs.


7 posted on 01/09/2013 5:55:34 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: TurboZamboni

The juicy part of this story is that he was charged because he violated Hipaa. :-)

Of course that won’t stick, but it is interesting that they went to those lengths to bring charges.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 5:56:22 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Lazamataz
It was shrinkage.
9 posted on 01/09/2013 6:01:36 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Lazamataz

Little Canada is the town...

should be Little Cuba.


10 posted on 01/09/2013 6:04:57 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

This is LEGISLATION BY INTIMIDATION.

The police ROUTINELY do the BS of “dumping to the judge” as a means of harassment. This person has their life turned upside down, has a permanent bloch on his record because of this police officers EGO.

The only way this will end is when the police officers become personally liable along with prosecutors who pursue this anti-first amendment intimidation. Perhaps even joint and several liablity for attorney fees even though it is criminal.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 6:13:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TurboZamboni
They squeezed Canada into a town?

Canada IS little.

And they talk with half their heads bobbing up and down.


12 posted on 01/09/2013 6:14:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: cuban leaf

“charged because he violated Hipaa”

ROTFLMAO


13 posted on 01/09/2013 6:43:11 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: shelterguy

I was once run out of a town by a group of sheriff’s deputies years ago because I asked questions about a gal that later turned out to be a prostitute who one of the deputies was cheating on his wife with. She later got a little letter in the mail from an “anonymous source”. They didn’t know I was working undercover on that case. The deputy’s wife later filed for divorce and got taken to the cleaners so I got the last laugh...lol


14 posted on 01/09/2013 6:45:37 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Lazamataz

Oh little town of Canada how still we see police lie?

Above your deep & dreamless sleep your rights now go buh-bye.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 7:38:23 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Yup, they are throwing away taxpayer dollars simply to intimidate taxpayers.


16 posted on 01/09/2013 9:27:08 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: cuban leaf

Then there’s this gem:

“Eggers noted that the incident report said nothing was recorded on the camera.

“I mean, were you just pointing it?” he asked Henderson.

“No. It was deleted,” Henderson surmised.

“You deleted it?”

“No. She must have deleted it,” Henderson said, referring to Muellner.

Not possible, Eggers replied. “There would have been some documentation about that.” “

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Sure, police always file a report when they do something illegal or improper. It’s impossible that they wouldn’t file a report incriminating themselves :P

If you are going to record the police it’s probably best to do it on your phone, and make sure the phone has a password lock on it. Then, lock your phone before you hand it over to the police. They can’t force you to unlock your phone just so they can view/delete the video.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 9:42:21 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Gubmint sees that as their best investment.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 9:45:33 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: cuban leaf

http://www.ci.little-canada.mn.us/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Canada,_Minnesota


19 posted on 01/09/2013 10:49:20 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: TurboZamboni

They are aware of it; they threaten not out of ignorance, but out of a desire to intimidate.

Thankfully, there are still peace officers like Lawdog around:

Apparently there has been some Internet kerfuffle involving officers being videotaped by citizens. Seems some officers get their Hanes all up in a half-hitch about it — to the point of pulling some truly feather-legged stunts.

Why?

And I’m asking that question of both sides, by-the-by.

I ask the officers because, well, duh. If you’re not doing anything to be ashamed of, why do you care if someone videotapes you?

http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2012/01/mediations-on-cameras.html


20 posted on 01/09/2013 11:03:26 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: jsanders2001

May I suggest you think some about being a little clearer in your writing?

The subject of the last part of your first sentence is the prostitute. Your next sentence makes it seem as if you sent a letter to the prostitute, instead of the wife.

The subject of your last sentence is the deputy’s wife, and you make is sound as if she got taken to the cleaners.

Of course, most of us were able to ‘figure out’ what you really meant. I just thought it odd that as a ‘detective’, you would have such inconsistencies in your grammar.

Maybe you were just in a hurry, or LOL too hard. : )


21 posted on 01/09/2013 11:20:14 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Lazamataz

I would like to point out that other than French Quebec, Canada is populated largely by people who dodged being drafted in WWII, and pretty much every war after.


22 posted on 01/09/2013 11:25:25 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Boogieman

There are apps you can get that will stream your video directly to the cloud, so even if Officer Dumbass throws your phone into a fire you still have the video. These apps were developed for just these situations.


23 posted on 01/09/2013 11:49:16 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: UCANSEE2

> Of course, most of us were able to ‘figure out’ what you really meant. I just thought it odd that as a ‘detective’, you would have such inconsistencies in your grammar.

You haven’t read many police reports have you?...lol (I’ve read thousands)

I wasnt putting together a probable cause affidavit or narrative for incident report. Truth be told I was posting from an IPad on the crapper so it may not have been as well versed as it would in an “official” report...LOL


24 posted on 01/09/2013 1:07:24 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: UCANSEE2

“Canada is populated largely by people who dodged being drafted in WWII”

Any males of draft age in Canada during WW2 were subject to conscription so I’m not seeing why American draft dodgers in that period would have fled to a jurisdiction where they faced even greater prospects of conscription than they did in the US.


25 posted on 01/09/2013 1:22:40 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: MeganC

Thanks for your response. Perhaps you are correct.

During WWII avoiding the draft by going to Canada didn’t ‘guarantee’ anything. That doesn’t mean that that many didn’t flee there. It’s not like they couldn’t easily cross the border, unidentified, and avoid not only the US draft but ‘conscription’ by Canada. So far I haven’t found any ‘estimates’ of how many tried to do this, or succeeded.

However, starting with the Civil War, and especially including the Vietnam War, many Americans fled to Canada to avoid the draft.

Thank you for helping me get the info straight.

Reference Material: http://www.answers.com/topic/draft-resistance-and-evasion


26 posted on 01/10/2013 9:30:52 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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