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(VA) GOP governor: Obama 'minister of God'
WND ^ | January 9, 2013 | William Murray

Posted on 01/09/2013 12:10:30 PM PST by Perseverando

Prayer breakfast calls on president to act 'for the people'

Barack Obama is “an appointed minister of God to do what is good,” according to the prayer of Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell at the Commonwealth Prayer Breakfast held at the Richmond, Va., convention center.

The annual breakfast yesterday drew more than 1,000 people, including many of the state’s leaders. In addition to McDonnell, others offering prayers included Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, House Speaker William Howell and state Democrat Chairwoman Charniele Herring.

McDonnell asked, during his prayer for Obama, that God give him “the wisdom of Solomon.”

The opening prayer was delivered by the mayor of Richmond, Dwight C. Jones, a Democrat. Jones, an African-American, sat next to Cuccinelli, a tea party favorite who currently is running for governor to replace McDonnell.

All those at the head table sat quietly as McDonnell prayed for Obama and his family. McDonnell prayed for Obama’s “wife Michelle and his two girls to have normalcy.” For Obama’s duties of office, the governor prayed that he would “get done what is right and just for the people.”

Speaking of all elected officials in the nation including himself, the governor asked God that “all do what is right in the eyes of God.”

It is not the first time McDonnell has advocated prayer for Obama.

Early in 2012, he told a Boy Scout troop to “pray for Mr. Obama, because he’s got a lot of hard decisions to make.”

That request came as the troop was on a tour of the

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cuccinelli; gop; mcdonnell; ministerofgod; prayerbreakfast
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1 posted on 01/09/2013 12:10:40 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Obama is not a minister of God but we should pray for him


2 posted on 01/09/2013 12:12:42 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: frogjerk

Yes. I can think of a number of the Psalms that are highly appropriate.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 12:14:31 PM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: Perseverando

~~~Barack Obama is “an appointed minister of God to do what is good,” according to the prayer of Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell~~~

What a maroon. This world couldn’t discern the Antichrist when the time comes.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 12:18:07 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Dick Bachert

“Jesus wept.” John 11:35

and so should we. Obummer is certainly NOT a minister and we do need to pray for him. God answers a variety of prayers every day...

Plan for the worst, hope for the best, work to the glory of God, and pray without ceasing.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 12:18:15 PM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Perseverando
People are missing the point. The verse means that a ruler is appointed by God to do what is good. But woe unto him if he doesn't do good. God will condemn a ruler whom He (God) has appointed, but who renounces God's authority by doing evil.

The governor was warning Obama of the heavy punishment that awaits an evil ruler.

6 posted on 01/09/2013 12:19:46 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Perseverando

0bama doesn’t believe in God. His actions speak loudly about his beliefs. He believes government is a god.


7 posted on 01/09/2013 12:20:56 PM PST by A message
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To: Perseverando; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy
>> Barack Obama is “an appointed minister of God to do what is good,” according to Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell <<

Someone please have Gov. McDonnell undergo drug testing immediately.

8 posted on 01/09/2013 12:22:34 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Perseverando
I want to see the actual text of the prayer.
9 posted on 01/09/2013 12:23:36 PM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Perseverando

Our leaders are selected by God I think is what he meant.


10 posted on 01/09/2013 12:25:26 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: frogjerk
"...we should pray for him."

Yes, I have no love for Obama or especially his actions and his policies, however...

1 Tim 2:1,2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness."

Daniel 2:20-21 Daniel answered and said: "Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, For wisdom and might are His. And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings; He gives wisdom to the wise And knowledge to those who have understanding.

Psalms 75:6-7 For exaltation comes neither from the east Nor from the west nor from the south. 7 But God is the Judge: He puts down one, And exalts another.

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, Like the rivers of water; He turns it wherever He wishes.

Daniel 4:37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise, exalt and honor the King of heaven, for all His works are true and His ways just, and He is able to humble those who walk in pride.”

11 posted on 01/09/2013 12:26:47 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: frogjerk

obama is a spawn of satan and i pray for him to be impeached from office.


12 posted on 01/09/2013 12:27:31 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Perseverando
McDonnell was warning obama that he's been put in place by God to do good. Woe unto him if he fails to good...aforegone conclusion if you as me!

I've known Governor McDonnel for 15 years (we're NOT best buds) and he's one of the good guys, and always has been.

13 posted on 01/09/2013 12:29:26 PM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AppyPappy
Leaders selected by God is an old Europe paradigm of monarchy by Divine Right.

Wasn't such a ruler (king) also the head of the church?

-PJ

14 posted on 01/09/2013 12:30:22 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
>> a ruler is appointed by God <<

Huh? God didn't "appoint" Obama as President (though Obama's supporters like Jamie Foxx certainly seem to think he's God chosen one). Flawed, fallible human beings elected Obama as President. He was selected by voters for a government position, not "called" by God to be leader of a church or ministry.

15 posted on 01/09/2013 12:32:02 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
People are missing the point. The verse means that a ruler is appointed by God to do what is good. But woe unto him if he doesn't do good. God will condemn a ruler whom He (God) has appointed, but who renounces God's authority by doing evil.

The governor was warning Obama of the heavy punishment that awaits an evil ruler.

I absolutely agree. Very much like the warning to leaders and nations as explained by Jonathan Cahn in his book, "The Harbinger."

16 posted on 01/09/2013 12:32:02 PM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando

Must be reading this blog.
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/


17 posted on 01/09/2013 12:32:43 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Perseverando

18 posted on 01/09/2013 12:35:35 PM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Psalm 109:8-May his days in office be few and may another soon take his place.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 12:36:28 PM PST by GeorgeTex (Obama-Four M President (Mendacious Manchurian Muslim Marxist))
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To: Perseverando; All

Yes, Proverbs 21:1 indicates that the Lord guides king’s hearts however the Lord pleases.

On the other hand, consider the kings of the ancient Israelites who did evil in the eyes of the Lord, the Lord ultimately turning these kings and the Israelites over to invading armies.

And given that it has been said that the Constitution is our king, the problem is that many patriots evidently do not understand how evil Constitution-ignoring Obama is because many patriots are evidently not familiar with the roughly two pages of constitutionally limited powers of the federal government.


20 posted on 01/09/2013 12:38:23 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Perseverando

Not a Minister of God, but a minister from God, not to do good, but to do evil to this unrepentant Nation.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 12:41:37 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Perseverando

Is everybody on drugs?


22 posted on 01/09/2013 12:42:52 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
The governor was warning Obama of the heavy punishment that awaits an evil ruler.

You and I understand that but the Governor either got tang-tongueled or was catnapping during that particular Sunday sermon. It didn't come out right.
23 posted on 01/09/2013 12:45:38 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Political Junkie Too

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities. For there is no authority but of God; the authorities that exist are ordained by God.


24 posted on 01/09/2013 12:49:24 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: GeorgeTex; pgkdan; Perseverando; AppyPappy; Political Junkie Too
>> obama has been put in place by God to do good <<

>> I absolutely agree. <<

>> Our leaders are selected by God <<

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. God would never put Obama in charge of America. God gives men free will to choose whom they want. It is up to us to use that gift wisely. The selection of Obama was a poor choice, made by flawed human beings. God ALLOWED it, but had nothing to do with it.

>> Leaders selected by God is an old Europe paradigm of monarchy by Divine Right. Wasn't such a ruler (king) also the head of the church? <<

Political Junkie Too nails it. The idea that "God" selected the person who governs the country is an outdated "divine right of Kings" European ideology that most Europeans don't even believe anymore. Historical figures "chosen by God" to be leaders are people like Moses and St. Peter (both of whom were capable of being sinners, and DID sin and make mistakes, thus the "warning" from God). Those leaders were chosen to lead people spiritually, as are all religious leaders who get a calling. God doesn't "appoint" secular government leaders, and He certainly wouldn't pick someone like Obama to run a country.

25 posted on 01/09/2013 12:53:26 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: AppyPappy
That's different than saying that the leaders are selected by God to be the leaders.

-PJ

26 posted on 01/09/2013 12:53:35 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Perseverando

Traditionally, the “Powers that be” are supposed to be of God, and are supposed to be prayed for. But a time comes when it becomes evident that a political leader is a deliberate enemy of God.

Allah is not the God of Solomon. Allah is not God.

Usually, I pray for our political leaders. But for some time now, I’ve been praying for our country instead.

God knocked Saul off his horse and converted him from a persecutor of Christians to a saint. But the difference is that Saul thought he was obeying God and doing the right thing, until God taught him differently. Obama has deliberately chosen evil, of the worst kind, and it’s pretty hard to believe that he is going to change. Saul was open to God. Obama from all appearances is not.

He has been an active baby killer, a purveyor of sodomy, a destroyer of people’s jobs and lives, a Communist trouble-maker, and a supporter of Muslim terrorism all his life. And he knows what he is doing and takes great pride in it.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 12:57:04 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Perseverando

I think Barry’s reply to Bob O’Donnell’s prayer would go something like “there is no God but Allah”


28 posted on 01/09/2013 12:59:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

You missed the part about praying for our leaders. Didn’t say pray for them if we like them. Kind of like the whole pray for you enemies thing. It gets easier with practice and we are commanded to do so


29 posted on 01/09/2013 1:00:03 PM PST by Mom MD (Liberals are slinkies. Good for nothing but they make you smile when you push them down stairs.)
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To: Amendment10

I have read that one of the slogans from the Revolutionary War by Patriots was “No king, but King Jesus.”

We have rejected God and look at our nation. All the problems discussed so frequently here at FR are just “symptoms” of the problem. Yes, symptoms of the problem - a sickness of the individual soul and the soul of the nation.

People wanted a messiah, a savior, an earthly king. And God, apparently, has allowed us as a nation to have the leadership we collectively deserve.

Can we save ourselves without God (and I don’t mean Allah or any other impostors from hell)? NO we can’t!!


15 “See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil, 16 in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, His statutes, and His judgments, that you may live and multiply; and the Lord your God will bless you in the land which you go to possess. 17 But if your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods and serve them, 18 I announce to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong your days in the land which you cross over the Jordan to go in and possess. 19 I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; 20 that you may love the Lord your God, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for He is your life and the length of your days; and that you may dwell in the land which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them.”
(Deuteronomy 30:15-20)


30 posted on 01/09/2013 1:00:03 PM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: BillyBoy

God has put obama in charge of America. Nothing happens outside of His will. God also gives countries and nations the leaders they deserve. Can you tell me with a straight face our nation does not deserve Obama? He has given us over to our depravity. We as a nation should be repenting and seeking Gods wisdom. Alas, we are too far gone for that. But the remnant of believers in this nation should pray on behalf of our country without ceasing. God can still work a miracle if it fits His plan


31 posted on 01/09/2013 1:06:13 PM PST by Mom MD (Liberals are slinkies. Good for nothing but they make you smile when you push them down stairs.)
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To: Perseverando; All
People wanted a messiah, a savior, an earthly king. And God, apparently, has allowed us as a nation to have the leadership we collectively deserve.

I agree.

As a consequence of parents not making sure their children are taught the constitutionally limited powers of the federal government, the corrupt media is able to get away with deifying people whom misguided voters then elect to the Oval Office to excercise powers way beyond the scope of constitutionally enumerated powers. It's as if God programmed us to worship something, evil trying to get us to worship anything but Jesus.

32 posted on 01/09/2013 1:16:31 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: BillyBoy

Here’s what God said:

the authorities that exist are ordained by God.


33 posted on 01/09/2013 1:18:15 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: frogjerk; All
Yes. I can think of a number of the Psalms that are highly appropriate.

Love your enemies, something I need much practice with.

34 posted on 01/09/2013 1:19:42 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: AppyPappy

You pray to Paul?


35 posted on 01/09/2013 1:20:01 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: fattigermaster

I’m just telling you what the Bible says. If you don’t believe it, that’s your deal.


36 posted on 01/09/2013 1:21:33 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Perseverando

Somehow I think some context is missing on these quotes. I do believe the only hope Obama has left is that we pray for him to repent and change his ways.


37 posted on 01/09/2013 1:24:35 PM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
People are missing the point. The verse means that a ruler is appointed by God to do what is good. But woe unto him if he doesn't do good. God will condemn a ruler whom He (God) has appointed, but who renounces God's authority by doing evil.

The governor was warning Obama of the heavy punishment that awaits an evil ruler.


Amen. Thank you for your post.

Christians are exhorted to pray for our leaders, whomever they may be, and for our enemies, whomever they may be.

You don't need to tell God how to do His job, but you do need to ask for what you need; and we certainly need leaders who submit to God, and enemies whose conscience leads them to recognize the true God, and that His judgment awaits them.

Think about it -- the best possible outcome is that "every knee shall bow."

38 posted on 01/09/2013 1:33:16 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: Perseverando
All governmental authorities are ministers of God according to Romans 13:4 "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

The caveat is that being responsible to God to minister to God, he is also RESPONSIBLE to God for abusing and/or neglecting his responsibility to subdue evil. God's judgment upon the abuser of god-given responsibility will be greater than upon those who never sought the privileges of national leadership.

So is he a minister of God? Yes, not because he deserves the title for his actions, but because he has been ordained to the position. Does he fulfill his ministry? God will judge. But I can tell you ahead of time that God will judge him severely for not protecting unborn babies...as well as for other things.

39 posted on 01/09/2013 2:13:53 PM PST by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: Perseverando
All governmental authorities are ministers of God according to Romans 13:4 "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

The caveat is that being responsible to God to minister to God, he is also RESPONSIBLE to God for abusing and/or neglecting his responsibility to subdue evil. God's judgment upon the abuser of god-given responsibility will be greater than upon those who never sought the privileges of national leadership.

So is he a minister of God? Yes, not because he deserves the title for his actions, but because he has been ordained to the position. Does he fulfill his ministry? God will judge. But I can tell you ahead of time that God will judge him severely for not protecting unborn babies...as well as for other things.

40 posted on 01/09/2013 2:13:53 PM PST by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: Perseverando; Mad Dawg; EDINVA; JPG; Hawthorn; Paisan; ConservativeOrBust; VA_Gentleman; ...

Virginia Ping! If you want on or off the Virginia Ping List, please freepmail me.

41 posted on 01/09/2013 2:25:20 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: AppyPappy
Here’s what God said: the authorities that exist are ordained by God.

You pray to Paul?

I’m just telling you what the Bible says. If you don’t believe it, that’s your deal.

A person doesn't believe in the Bible unless they accept Paul is God?

You quoted a letter from Paul, and said it was from God. And I asked you if you pray to Paul.

42 posted on 01/09/2013 2:44:51 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Perseverando

Wha????
Ole Bob has jumped the shark....now officially part of he GOPe...
Has lost me BIg time....


43 posted on 01/09/2013 3:01:28 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Dr. Thorne

Then he should have SAID that!!!


44 posted on 01/09/2013 3:03:05 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Perseverando

A minister of God just like the Assyrians were for the Northern Kingdom of Israel. This country’s people are so ungodly that He has had enough so Obama & Co. are the just desserts.

It could still be turned around: 2 Chronicles 7:14 “If my people who are called by my name...”

And that’s just addressed to His people. The folks that refuse to be associated with God can continue their journey.


45 posted on 01/09/2013 3:13:25 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: American in Israel; All

“Not a Minister of God, but a minister from God, not to do good, but to do evil to this unrepentant Nation.”

What AiI wrote.


46 posted on 01/09/2013 3:18:04 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: Mom MD
>> God has put obama in charge of America. Nothing happens outside of His will. God also gives countries and nations the leaders they deserve. <<

You sound like you are a Presbyterian who believes in that "predestination" stuff and probably think it was part of God's master plan from the beginning of time to make Obama president or something. We will have to disagree. I believe that mankind has free will. God allows people to do evil things but certainly does NOT put them in the position to do so. People do that through their actions. A just and loving God would NEVER "put Obama in charge of America".

47 posted on 01/09/2013 6:29:07 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Mom MD

“Obummer is certainly NOT a minister and we do need to pray for him.” (from my earlier comment)

I do pray for our leaders, even obummer.I know that our leaders are appointed by God over us and we must pray for them, even when they are not Christian, not godly, not good, not liked.


48 posted on 01/09/2013 6:39:59 PM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Perseverando
McDonnell asked, during his prayer for Obama, that God give him “the wisdom of Solomon.”

What... to split the nation in half?
I believe the African communist scumbag has done that just fine.

49 posted on 01/09/2013 6:43:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: fattigermaster

You don’t have to believe the Bible. It’s your life. If it doesn’t say what you want to hear, write your own. I didn’t write it. Don’t blame me.


50 posted on 01/09/2013 6:44:22 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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