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Hoping to discourage car trips downtown, Austin may drop parking requirement
American-Statesman ^ | Dec. 11, 2012 | Ben Wear

Posted on 01/09/2013 3:04:26 PM PST by Jonx6

Austin might soon ditch a three-decade-old policy of requiring downtown buildings and tenant businesses to have a minimum number of parking spaces tied either to square footage or the number of condos and apartments in a building.

Supporters of the move say the minimum requirement has caused a parking surplus downtown, encouraging people to use their cars rather than bikes, buses and rail. Take away that requirement, they say, and eventually garage parking will become a more scarce (and expensive) resource, encouraging people to use alternative transportation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agenda21; un
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1 posted on 01/09/2013 3:04:30 PM PST by Jonx6
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To: Jonx6

Good grief . There is no parking in Austin .


2 posted on 01/09/2013 3:08:12 PM PST by katykelly
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To: Jonx6

More likely, this asinine move will end all discretionary trips to downtown. Downtown merchants will be closing up shop, and relocating to the suburban malls.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 3:09:37 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Jonx6

I’m willing to ignore this, because according to Texans I’ve met, Austin is not actually a part of Texas.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 3:12:07 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Never really been to DT Austin, but my city, Tulsa, does have a surplus of parking because of zoning regulations. Not just in Downtown but also in the strip malls where more than half the spaces are never full.

Is this not just an easing of zoning regulations? Can the property owner make more parking if he chooses?


5 posted on 01/09/2013 3:13:27 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The article mentions rail. Does Austin have rail?


6 posted on 01/09/2013 3:14:17 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: katykelly

That was my instant perspective. Sixth Street parking? It is to laugh.....


7 posted on 01/09/2013 3:15:11 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: demshateGod

Austin should have a lot of rail... to run the leftist asshats out of town on.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 3:15:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: demshateGod

First I’ve heard of it.


9 posted on 01/09/2013 3:16:14 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Jonx6

Best wishes. But anyone with HALF A BRAIN will provide parking.


10 posted on 01/09/2013 3:19:52 PM PST by BobL
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To: Jonx6

Austin: the Portland of Texas....


11 posted on 01/09/2013 3:22:19 PM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: Jonx6
Free Parking is what made America Great.

Pay parking is geographically associated with Peoples' Republics.

12 posted on 01/09/2013 3:23:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Donkey Odious

Austin: the Portland of Texas....


No.....the San Francisco of Texas.


13 posted on 01/09/2013 3:26:04 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Jonx6
...encouraging people to use their cars rather than bikes, buses and rail.

It's Texas. Why not add more of these instead?

-PJ

14 posted on 01/09/2013 3:27:17 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: demshateGod

Austin has the Metrorail. One train that starts downtown and heads north to stop in Leander. I ride it to work sometimes. Faster than the bus. Way cheaper than a car.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 3:33:39 PM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: christx30

How much do you pay a month?


16 posted on 01/09/2013 3:35:32 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

That will slow economic activity in the city. Who wants to take public transportation and walk or bike in S. Texas heat?


17 posted on 01/09/2013 3:39:46 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Jonx6

Agenda 21 folks..agenda 21.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 3:44:24 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Jonx6

Ah, the authors of Agenda 21 are smiling.

I’ve spent a lot of time in Austin (on business) and it’s one of the few cities I’ve enjoyed simply because you can park with a fair amount of ease. I tend to avoid spending much time in other cities where attempting to park just raises blood pressure.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 3:46:33 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Jonx6
I guess....Chicago now has $6.25 an hour parking meters!!

I wonder how that will work out for them.....

20 posted on 01/09/2013 3:47:36 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange

I guess....Chicago now has $6.25 an hour parking meters!!
I wonder how that will work out for them.....

about as much as gun control does


21 posted on 01/09/2013 3:51:25 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: demshateGod

Surplus of parking? Not that I have seen, other than the lots charging $10 per car to park. I refuce to use those, since I can park in metered spaces for free, but often can’t find metered spaces.

Austin does have a light rail. It was shoved down our throats by a small minority and the city council who all wanted to feel smug and superior that Austin would have a ‘green’ transportation option. The light rail cars are empty every time I see them, and of course those who forced the issue are still driving their own cars.


22 posted on 01/09/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by tarawa
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To: The Antiyuppie
You heard right! No self-respecting Texan even considers Austin a part of real Texas. It's just a place where they keep politicians and liberals penned up.

And there is no parking excess downtown, in fact I don't think there much parking at all, at least there wasn't when I was there a year or two ago. I always go downtown so I can look at places where I once lived...altho all I see are mostly big buildings, the homes are gone. It was once so lovely, I lived there in the 1950’s. Wonderful place then, but “you can't go home again”.

23 posted on 01/09/2013 3:58:01 PM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: Oldexpat

It certainly slows my economic activity into downtown Austin. South Austin is much better. I’ve lived here three years, and aside from dropping off other people, have been there for business maybe 3 times.


24 posted on 01/09/2013 4:00:09 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Jonx6

The people running Austin and Texas don’t want us down there seeing what they’re doing.


25 posted on 01/09/2013 4:07:17 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: The Antiyuppie

You got that right.


26 posted on 01/09/2013 4:13:18 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Paladin2

I do not shop anywhere that I have to pay for parking
or does not have access to parking.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 4:16:30 PM PST by funfan
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To: demshateGod
Since Mar 22, 2010


28 posted on 01/09/2013 4:17:32 PM PST by deport
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To: Jonx6
Speaking as one who was for many years involved in the ownership, leasing, and management of a downtown Charlotte office building and attached parking garage, I have no problem whatever with the city eliminating the minimum parking requirement. Let the market decide. Parking, in and of itself, is a monetary loser, but it is necessary to have adequate parking in order to lease office space.

The building with which I was associated had far more than minimum required by city code, and the "excess" parking served us well as a "loss leader"; the building remained fully leased, or nearly so.

Now, if Austin were to institute a maximum parking space limit for every private office or residential building, then you'd have a major problem, especially in that the city is already competing with private parking providers in the form of metered on-street parking, municipal (taxpayer-funded, in other words) parking decks and lots, and mass transit.

One more problem for owners/operators of private real estate: hefty taxes, over and above property taxes, imposed on parking. Make parking expensive by creating artificial shortages and high taxes, and that spiffy new light rail or streetcar line starts to look more attractive.

29 posted on 01/09/2013 4:20:14 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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To: demshateGod

Yes, and the knee-jerk reaction here in support of more regulation of business and development instead of less is pretty disappointing. If a real estate developer thinks it makes business sense to construct a building without parking, why should the government stand in the way?


30 posted on 01/09/2013 4:29:42 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Jonx6

This is all part of mayor Shelly Lee Leffingwell (yes, HIS first name is Shelly) and the Austin silly council to FORCE people to use pubic transportation. It started years ago with the “smart growth plan” by a previous mayor.

I hate the Capital Metro bus system. I had jury duty for Travis county and had to take a bus to the courthouse. Sure, it drops you off less than two blocks away, but the bus stopped at every telephone pole to take a leak, like a dog does at trees.


31 posted on 01/09/2013 4:33:55 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
because according to Texans I’ve met, Austin is not actually a part of Texas.

You got that right, and Texas needs a divorce from the union and let them have the Austin libs.

32 posted on 01/09/2013 4:43:11 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Paladin2
Free Parking is what made America Great. Pay parking is geographically associated with Peoples' Republics.

Same thing with roads. Given the amount of taxes as we pay there should not be ANY toll roads as that is a legitimate government function. I absolutely detest toll roads

33 posted on 01/09/2013 4:45:34 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Jonx6

This reminds me of the 1970s and Austin’s solution to too much traffic:

Don’t build more roads.


34 posted on 01/09/2013 4:47:24 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I looked at the previous replies and all are correct, but it is not faster than by car. A local TV station sent a crew to Leander where it originates and put a crew on the train during rush hour traffic.

The TV crew in the car got downtown about 30 minutes faster to the end of the choo choo train line. BTW, 183 and Loop 1 are parking lots during rush hour. Trust me, I drove that route for over 20 years.


35 posted on 01/09/2013 4:51:22 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: funfan

“I do not shop anywhere that I have to pay for parking”

You are obviously not a city shopper.

I love cities and prefer them to malls,so I pay for parking or use public transportation.

.


36 posted on 01/09/2013 4:51:22 PM PST by Mears
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
More likely, this asinine move will end all discretionary trips to downtown. Downtown merchants will be closing up shop, and relocating to the suburban malls.

Yep. Which is probably what they should do ASAP anyway.

37 posted on 01/09/2013 4:59:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: tarawa
It was shoved down our throats by a small minority and the city council . . .

I don't know if you listen to Mark, Ed, and SGT Sam in the morning on KLBJ, but everyone in Austin should be begging for single member districts with the election being in Nov to coincide with state / national elections. The Austin silly council knows that would be the death of the liberal agenda they want for the city.

38 posted on 01/09/2013 5:03:06 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Well, for a bus pass it’s a very reasonable $30/mo. The train is $1 for a trip. Gets me downtown in 30 minutes as opposed to 45 on the bus. All in all, mass transit is the best way to get around if you’re trying to make every penny count. That money I don’t spend on gas or insurance I can devote to beer.

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”
-— Ben Franklin

Who am I to argue with one of our founding fathers?


39 posted on 01/09/2013 5:44:53 PM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: katykelly

After the secession can we please move Austin to Nuevo York or maybe near Baltimore?


40 posted on 01/09/2013 5:58:40 PM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

We do try to disavow the existence of Austin at every opportunity but they just won’t go away. I think they should just wall all the whole town and all the liberals within. It’s not like we need them for anything useful after all.

I can just imagine someone riding a bike to work in the middle of July. What bizarro world do these liberal politicians live in?

Sheesh.


41 posted on 01/09/2013 6:04:42 PM PST by wayoverthehill
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To: Arrowhead1952

Smart Growth Plan - right out of the U.N.’s Agenda 21.

How does it feel to have the entire fabric of American society transformed as per the nutjobs at the U.N who came up with Agenda 21.

Also directly related to this: Takingliberty.us


42 posted on 01/09/2013 7:28:59 PM PST by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
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To: demshateGod

>>The article mentions rail. Does Austin have rail?

If they don’t, the “city planner” Agenda 21 types will use the parking parking problems about to be created as justification for rail in a few years. See how this works?


43 posted on 01/09/2013 7:31:48 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: X-spurt
After the secession can we please move Austin to Nuevo York or maybe near Baltimore?

If it ever comes to that, there'll probably be a massive trail of Austin liberals on a mass exodus to either New Mexico or Arkansas. The remainder will get deported. That will help clear the stench down on the Colorado.

44 posted on 01/09/2013 7:39:26 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: christx30

30 dollars nets me a tank of gas that allows me to drive about 500 miles or so.

I live about 10 miles from Downtown Austin, so do the math. :)

Unless I travel downtown every day - the car is cheaper.


45 posted on 01/09/2013 8:12:43 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Don Corleone
Agenda 21 folks..agenda 21.

Exactly. Corral the People in central hubs and make the spaces in between effectively no-man lands. I doubt that it's coincidence that it supports the "divide and conquer" philosophy of the Left.

46 posted on 01/10/2013 2:40:54 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Captain7seas
Smart Growth Plan - right out of the U.N.’s Agenda 21.

One reason we moved to a small town 35 miles away from Austin. Plus the taxes are much lower.

47 posted on 01/10/2013 4:49:16 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Jonx6

This’ll help downtown Austin - NOT!

This silly “we hate cars” experiment fails everywhere it’s tried, yet the insane “planners” and other liberal statists keep trying it. Bottom line - it it isn’t convenient, people won’t do it. Cars are convenient, busses and bicycles less so, and rail even less than that.


48 posted on 01/10/2013 4:57:32 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I’m all for loosening the amount of required parking spaces. The governments created all these strip malls that we all hate so much.


49 posted on 01/10/2013 6:10:07 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: deport

Well I’ll be. I had been trying to get a job in Austin for a long time and had no idea. My plans have recently changed and I’m not looking there anymore.


50 posted on 01/10/2013 6:13:06 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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