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Obama would be limited in executive order on gun control
Examiner ^ | January 9, 2013 | Ryan Witt

Posted on 01/09/2013 4:49:23 PM PST by QT3.14

Today Vice President Joe Biden met with gun victims and safety groups as part of a continuing effort by his task force to come up with solutions to gun violence in the aftermath of the Newtown, Connecticut shootings. The highlight of the meeting came when Biden announced that the White House is prepared to act through executive action to implement gun control measures. Biden stated...

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"…Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed...."

- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787

1 posted on 01/09/2013 4:49:30 PM PST by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

The ATF is about to get stupid on gun store owners.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 4:50:23 PM PST by Noamie
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To: QT3.14

Oh? Who exactly is going to limit him?


4 posted on 01/09/2013 4:55:05 PM PST by null and void (Avg # victims per incident, if shooter stopped by armed civilian: 3, if stopped by a policeman: 14)
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“”The president is going to act. Executive order, executive action that can be taken, we haven’t decided what that is yet.”

We have to sign it so we can know what’s in it.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 5:03:23 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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Let's be honest, there is a lot that can be done by Executive Order. A lot of it can be challenged in the courts for due process, but if the due process happens, a lot can be done.

EPA has been toying with banning lead bullets for a long time.

Product liability laws were used by the left as a method of scaring firearm manufacturers.

Many on the left have wanted the CDC to take up firearms and gun violence as a medical issue to be regulated as such.

You could see federal regulations declaring all kinds of federal facilities or things purchased with federal money to be declared gun free zones, like parks, interstate highways, and a host of things. Post Offices, federal buildings are still gun free zones, even if National Parks now allow concealed carry permit holders to concealed carry (outside of federal park buildings).

In short there is probably going to be a long of things that the big Zero is going to be implementing that will make those who believe in the 2nd Amendment mad.

Still the Constitution has a set of Checks and Balances and it has a Bill of Rights. I lived through the first Assault Weapons Ban and 8 years of Bill Clinton, I can live through the Big Zero who is going to make Jimmy Carter look like a successful president.

6 posted on 01/09/2013 5:04:45 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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WHAT! Joe “spread ‘em, you’re gonna be frisked” biteme mis-spoke? No way!!!!

Stop radical left wing extremists.


7 posted on 01/09/2013 5:07:01 PM PST by rktman
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To: Noamie
The ATF is about to get stupid on gun store owners.

The ATF is about to get stupid on gun store owners.

There, fixed that for you.

If Obomba and the ATF want to dance they better understand that the American people can dance better than anyone else.

8 posted on 01/09/2013 5:07:13 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Robert357
Let's be honest, there is a lot that can be done by Executive Order.

I remember when Clinton signed an order on his way out to require every water treatment center to raise their arsenic standards. It would have cost local governments billions.

9 posted on 01/09/2013 5:08:28 PM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: null and void
Oh? Who exactly is going to limit him?

Our good friends, Smith & Wesson.

Seriously though, I think that doofus dumb-ass Joe Bite-Me Biden just "shot" himself in the proverbial foot with his outburst. He just opened his mouth and absolutely confirmed the greatest fears of conservatives & gun owners (likely including some liberal gun owners as well) that 0dumb0 & the socialist demoRATs have every intention of ruling by dictatorial & tyrannical fiat. This will probably galvanize conservative/Christian/patriotic Americans if they ever try to implement such a gun grab like this. This may be the tipping point that is needed to make a strong stand for our freedoms & rights & liberties against 0dumb0Sh_t and the RATs.

10 posted on 01/09/2013 5:13:02 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: QT3.14

executive orders only apply to the executive branch employees.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 5:14:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: aimhigh
Exactly, a lot can by done by executive order and much of what can be done is not good.
12 posted on 01/09/2013 5:22:42 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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That won't matter. The Constitution not only gives the federal government no authority to regulate arms, it expressly forbids it from doing so. That hasn't stopped anti-gun laws from being passed and forced for decades, and it certainly won't stop the current occupier of the White House from doing whatever he wants.

The only thing that will stop him is the will of the defenders of the Constitution, and that will has been severely lacking for many years now.
13 posted on 01/09/2013 5:25:29 PM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: QT3.14

How is Obama limited? The Constitution does no apply to him and he controls the Justice Department?


14 posted on 01/09/2013 5:26:30 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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First get every gun away from street hoods. Then maybe we’ll talk. It’s easier to get guns from law abiding citizens because they obey the laws re: guns. Street hoods do not.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 5:39:00 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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Uh, no. Our rights to defend ourselves are not negotiable. The Second Amendment is not about defending ourselves from common criminals or nutters who go on mass shooting sprees.


16 posted on 01/09/2013 5:46:20 PM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: QT3.14

Limits have never stopped Obama before.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 5:50:21 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: DangerZone

It was a tongue in cheek thing. I know that no street hood would turn in their gun. It’s easier for politicians to go after registered guns or guns from law abiding citizens. It’s also the reason our family doesn’t belong to the NRA or any gun organisation because the feds can use the subscription lists to find out who owns guns. Unfortunately all ours were lost in a tragic mishap when our boat was swamped.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 5:56:42 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Noamie

Yeah,

Makes one wonder where the people who make up the ATF come from; KGB residuals perhaps. They were the prime movers behind Ruby Ridge and the Branch Dividian Massacre - says all you need to know about these people. They’ll quite willingly do whatever Obama and Holder wants them to.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 5:58:10 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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FIRST will come registration and that will be justified in order to track and trace all weapons transferred between private parties - e.g. sales among friends, transfers from heir to heir, and that scary gun show “loop hole” that Senator Juan McLame loves to talk about frequently. ONCE registration is established all bets are off.
20 posted on 01/09/2013 5:59:51 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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